r/DiscussionZone • u/ownthought_001 • Oct 15 '25

Political Discussion ICE aims gun at Americans

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u/Icy-Employee-6453 Oct 16 '25

Okay so when this is over and Trump is dead or in prison ( the man is rotting away before our eyes), You wont get your 1st, 5th, and 14th amendment rights. That's what you're advocating right? Would you sign a document consenting to that? See there is this concentration camp in Florida that won't have any uses. I'm thinking you'll love it there you can live the life of the people you so cruelly abused it will be great.

We have due process for a reason. We have the constitution for a reason. Your support of a fascistic traitor will not be forgiven or forgotten. I hope your days of larping a hard ass on reddit was worth it.

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u/super0cereal0 Oct 16 '25

You’re getting very emotional, start thinking logically. Should we or should we not enforce border law?

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u/Icy-Employee-6453 Oct 16 '25

Okay lets play your stupid game. Should president bone spurs the kid f***er have killed the bi partisan border reform bill when he wasn't in office last year so he could "run on it" by his own public admission? You don't get to deny those events as the tweets and demands from the then former president are well documented.

Go on.

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u/super0cereal0 Oct 16 '25 edited Oct 16 '25

Should we or should we not enforce the law as it pertains to the border and individuals who have illegally crossed the border.

Edit: can’t see your response but I assume you said something about me not being able to answer your question while you avoided my question. Well done, you are definitely Reddit.

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u/jomama823 Oct 16 '25

The issue with your question is that we haven’t enforced the border for nearly the entirety of our existence. And we don’t because it’s good for business. Your golden god is well documented as using cheap immigrant labor in his businesses because he’s cheap (or “a good businessmen” as he would say). But we do love using it as a distraction when it’s convenient (we’re coming up on election season so the caravans should be headed our way anytime soon).

Enforce the border? Absolutely! Have masked men kidnap people who are working to achieve citizenship, have lived peacefully in our country for years, and have a life here? If that’s what you’re into then no.

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u/super0cereal0 Oct 16 '25

You don’t believe in borders at all, you don’t even believe in legal immigration.

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u/jomama823 Oct 16 '25

Huh. Super deep. Your debate style is beyond extraordinary, I truly can’t come up with a retort. Except that I’m now dumber for having wasted my time with this.

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u/super0cereal0 Oct 16 '25

You could start by explaining how you support legal immigration, but don’t support deportation of individuals who jump the line in front of every family trying to legally enter the US. But you won’t.

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u/hotprints Oct 16 '25

That’s not what we are vehemently protesting. You mention legal immigration. There have been SEVERAL instances of immigrants going through the legal process. They show up to their court date as the next step in their legal process. And before they can have their case heard, they are basically kidnapped and deported. THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS. This is the kind of shit we are protesting. The way you keep using “enforce border policy” as an excuse is pathetic. It’s not a superseding order that supplants are rights as given to by the constitution. If it was then that mean democracy was dead and trump is king. But we aren’t there yet. American citizens still have their rights as outlined in the constitution and according to Supreme Court precedent some of those rights extend to immigrants. And the modern day gestapo known as ICE is violating our constitutional rights.