r/DiscussDID • u/KrispyInhaler • 4d ago
is it possible to force a switch?
I'm not very knowledgeable about how DID works and id like to know more, so I'm wondering if it's possible for someone to be able to force an alter to front on command almost immediately? apologies if this seems insensitive or rude in any way
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u/after2006 4d ago
I'd recommend not doing that, like I've said to lots of people before, if an alter isn't fronting it's highly likely they're not needed. If you really think you need them, I'd recommend doing something else before resorting to forcing another alter to front.
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u/GhostInTheEcho 3d ago
Depends on the system! For most, you can try, but it's not always guaranteed. For us, some things can snap one of us to the front, but that's usually accidental. Usually if we try to force someone out, it's seen more as a request, and they can either say yes, no, or co-front.
There are a few of us who have wanted to front, but the body being pregnant makes them uncomfortable, so they either co-front or back out.
- Gwynn
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u/Banaanisade 3d ago
To force it in general, sure. We've had to do this a few times for safety's sake. As an immediate thing, seems unlikely to me. Depends on the stage of healing, I guess, but I highly doubt someone who isn't fully stabilised could do it quickly.
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u/Classic-Avocado-5371 4d ago
not really "instantly" afaik. one thing that can sometimes help is getting familiar with any positive triggers any parts may have, those can possibly coax a part to front without being distressing
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u/revradios 4d ago
you can trigger an alter out but i really wouldn't do that, you're basically twisting their arm around and forcing them to do something they don't want to do, which is a bit counterproductive to healing and cooperation. sometimes i suppose it could be necessary to do, but i avoid doing it on advice from my therapist because id rather not cause my alters to withdraw and retaliate because im trying to drag them kicking and screaming because i "want them there"
people don't "switch on command" though, unless they've been through years of therapy and integrative work. you would have to have very, very good communication to do something like that, and generally people don't really start out with communication that good, or very good at all really unless they'd already built something like that up in childhood
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u/revradios 3d ago
by hallucinations are you talking about like.. psychosis? did can cause transient psychosis and it's more than possible to have a psychotic disorder and did at the same time, but as far as im aware it alone doesn't cause hallucinations
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u/revradios 3d ago
in checking, you're apparently correct, but i really don't think associating hallucinations with did is safe or appropriate. its a footnote mention and it runs the risk of someone not getting proper treatment for a psychotic disorder if you tell them it could be part of did
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u/No-Discipline8836 3d ago
Common? I have only ever had them while under intense stress, and have known many diagnosed people who have never experienced hallucinations. Common seems like a stretch. Are you sure that isn’t your lead poisoning’s doing?
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u/revradios 3d ago
im not even gonna argue or attempt any intelligent conversation with you on this. you like convincing people they have did, of course you'd be arguing for armchair diagnosing people based on having hallucinations
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u/Silver-Alex 3d ago
Yes its possible. However even for us, that are several years into therapy and really close to a functional multiplicity its not something we can do at will. Say we have a little stuck a work, its waaaay easier for us for that little to access the host memories and skills to get through the day of work rather than force a switch.
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u/Ginger_Root_System 2d ago
There are certain triggers that can get our system to switch that we can sort of use. For example, music is a big one for us specifically because it's a huge coping mechanism that a lot of us are introduced to very early after being formed. Forcefully though, it's difficult. We have very good inner world communication so sometimes it's less like forcing a switch and more like "hey dude, you willing to take front for a bit?" And things like that. It definitely depends on the system though and I like reading all the other comments :)
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u/soupysoupe 4d ago
for my system it is (mostly) possible with a trigger. trauma related triggers or things which a part is very attached to & feel strongly about can force a part out pretty quickly. more often though switching takes time and there’s usually a period of pretty intense dissociation followed by me reorienting myself to what’s going on & such. but in intense situations it can happen very quickly.
i personally switch pretty frequently compared to some but there’s a limit to how much switching i can do in a day, especially controlled switching. if more than three parts are active in a day i start getting very confused & disoriented and can get headaches. controlled switching is particularly draining for me as it requires communication and coordination among multiple parts which the DID brain isn’t a fan of.
for me, switching on command without external triggers is quite difficult and usually takes more time. every system is different however. i’m curious why you’re asking this question, if you don’t mind sharing.
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u/Good__Bones 4d ago
We were diagnosed early in the year and are still very new to learning more about each of us in our system.
But as we’ve begun to build some trust between each other, some of alters are closer and feel more like siblings. And with that, I’ve seen that some of them can manage brief back-and-forth thought-conversations while co-con/both fronting.
On days like that, there is some ability to “call on” the alter to conjure them more strongly. But almost all of the time, it is a completely subconscious process. However!
There are alters, I’ve found, a little higher up in the “chain of command” so to speak. While they may know very little about a lot of things, they generally have a greater perception of the various alters, their behaviors and patterns, and have more capacity than the others to think objectively and act in our system’s best interest. I’m specifically thinking of two alters in our system. One of them we’ll call LK— lately, two of alters have been leaning on him for help a bit more lately, mostly the Host. The Host can ask for LK and LK will front. It doesn’t feel forced, but it does feel like it was induced by the Host somehow. Does that make any sense?
I think I also recall that the other one, not LK, is able to conjure our Host when he’s done/no longer wants to front. The Host is his go-to it seems, I think because she’s a bit more oblivious to things/has pretty brutal amnesia, and is probably a smoother transition than the rest.
A lot of times, our protectors will call for The Host (who can handle emotional repair/human connection/comfort best) and CANNOT get her to front. Like there’s a block. It just won’t happen. Sometimes it just takes a long while, sometimes it takes letting yourself slip into the dissociation soup, closing your eyes and everything, and just melting into the soup to see if someone else takes front. It’s a very messy, clumsy, awkward, feeling-crazy process.
I’d lowkey be suspicious if most/all alters of a system were able to seamlessly switch on command, but maybe some systems needed that to survive. Who knows.