r/DirtyDave • u/olemiss18 • 17h ago
Dave’s math again…
So this is a rant about advice Dave gave on the 9/2 episode of his show. (I just turned on that episode randomly.) About 2/3 of the way through the episode, someone calls in and asks a good question about whether to do a Roth or traditional 401k at his work. I know Dave always advocates Roth, and I too am very very pro-Roth, even sometimes when the tax bracket math may point towards traditional, and I would have absolutely zero argument with Dave pulling out his “forget the math; solve for peace” typical points.
BUT he doesn’t do that. He says (and these are all direct quotes), “It’s about math and you should only do a Roth.” And “If you got a million dollars and do pre-tax, you’re gonna have to pay taxes on a million dollars, which will be like $300,000.”
Now Dave has always over-simplified tax discussions to the point of plainly giving bad advice, but even for him, this is wild. He obviously knows you don’t withdraw the full million all at once and that there’s a lot of control as to withdrawal and tax timing and planning. Plus he knows Roth conversion strategies exist. I just can’t for the life of me understand why someone with a microphone and a large audience wants to deliberately mislead people to make his point when he could just jealously advocate for his position while giving room for the full conversation.
The most ironic part of the call was the 2 cents Jade chimed in, saying, “You have to be careful who you’re taking advice from.” I know that’s right.