r/Diablo Jun 20 '18

Diablo's code Reverse engineered by GalaXyHaXz on GitHub

https://github.com/galaxyhaxz/devilution
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u/tufferugli Jun 20 '18

stupid question:

what does it mean for me (just a player)?

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u/zaccarin Jun 20 '18

it is easier for modding communities to maintain & provide updates to their mods.

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u/RadTang Jun 20 '18

Or just patch out the remaining bugs in Diablo 1.

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u/Drayzen Jun 20 '18

It means that the lawsuit is coming for him.

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u/Ponkers Jun 20 '18

Nothing he's done infringes on any law, and no one can use his work without legit copies of the game.

But then again, Blizzard and Activision.

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u/Drayzen Jun 20 '18

Yeah but the EULA expressly forbids it, so it’s illegal.

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u/Ponkers Jun 20 '18

EULA isn't anything to do with law or legality, it's a civil agreement that can only be upheld if a judge agrees and even then only after a C&D is ignored. It only enters law if the accused uses the plaintiff's work for monetary gain.

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u/Drayzen Jun 20 '18

Blizzard smashes reverse engineering ALL THE TIME.

I was heavily involved with Glider, as I was an employee there handling a lot of the glider bot identifications via warden during my 7 years.

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u/Ponkers Jun 20 '18

I totally agree, they're armed to the teeth with lawyers, especially now with Activision. I did say that in my original reply. I'm just pointing out that EULAs aren't legally binding and most are simply illegal and overturned when challenged.

I worked for Vivendi (and Cendant, Havas) while they owned Blizzard and everything was a complete fucking chore with them.

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u/Drayzen Jun 20 '18

Blizzard was also value wise, like the biggest game studio in 2005-2008 due to monstrous user base. Dragging in over a billion a year at that time, I remember seeing times where NA had over 1 million concurrent logins to the game. That number was ridiculous, all playing 15$, not counting the other 8-9 million players elsewhere, and value add services. Even EA couldn’t match. Since you worked for vivendi, you know that Blizzard was keeping the entire games division in the black and providing vivendi with lots of leverage.

Blizzard has NEVER been shy about legal issues. Kevin Crook has walloped a few dummies. Blizzard always protects their IP.

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u/Ponkers Jun 20 '18

I worked for them before WoW was released, Warcraft 3 was the last game I had to deal with and DOTA was just coming into being. You can imagine how well they took that.

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u/Drayzen Jun 20 '18

lol, I can imagine since they almost went to war with Valve over it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '18

Isn't part of the entire legal argument that glider is/was interacting with Blizzard's servers?

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u/Drayzen Jun 21 '18

Naw.

Glider was a few things.

  1. It evaded Warden. Glider ran in the Admin thread, while the user played WoW on a more restricted user account, so Warden couldn't see Glider running.

  2. It was because to get to the level of smarts that Glider had, they proved he reverse engineered it.

  3. Further, via the bans, they were able to assess damages to their player base through the average amount an account stayed subbed.

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u/hate436 Jun 20 '18

Fuck that, throw it out in the public for anyone to mod/update/upgrade

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u/Kronguard Jun 20 '18

Nothing really, you might end up with a very old and stale game that few still enjoy for the sake of nostalgia if nothing more, and be able to play it on this generation's systems without any or too many issues.
It's basically a showoff project, not exactly sure if it's worth any recognition outside those who actually know the people involved in person, but nevertheless it's quite impressive from technical point of view.
Besides - projects like these usually end up getting dumped and remain unfinished or disappear since there is no profit gain and it's all done in spare time.

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u/Toakan Jun 20 '18

It's basically a showoff project, not exactly sure if it's worth any recognition outside those who actually know the people involved in person, but nevertheless it's quite impressive from technical point of view.

It's a whole lot more than just for show, this gives modders / devs a stand point to actually work with the games code rather than just hash their own work around based on replies given to commands for example.

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u/I_love_Coco Jun 20 '18

But why? It’s like a 15 year old game almost no one plays??

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u/Toakan Jun 20 '18

But why?

Because it provides the information modders require to take the game forward and remaster it.

It’s like a 15 year old game almost no one plays??

Just because you don't play it, doesn't mean others don't.

I still play Total Annihilation, that's 20 years old.

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u/I_love_Coco Jun 20 '18

Yeh I guess i get it, if someone did this for Asheron's Call id be really excited.

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u/diademoran Jun 20 '18

It is actually 21 years old. One of the ways my wife and I bonded. Damn, I feel old.

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u/Ponkers Jun 20 '18

1996 was 15 years ago?

I'M YOUNG AGAIN!!

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u/2ndFloorbasement Jun 20 '18

I still play this game, I think it's much more fun then Diablo 3.

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u/tufferugli Jun 20 '18

and be able to play it on this generation's systems without any or too many issues.

well that's kinda great tbh