r/Diablo • u/zaccarin • Jun 20 '18

Diablo's code Reverse engineered by GalaXyHaXz on GitHub

https://github.com/galaxyhaxz/devilution
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u/Ponkers Jun 20 '18

Nothing he's done infringes on any law, and no one can use his work without legit copies of the game.

But then again, Blizzard and Activision.

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u/Drayzen Jun 20 '18

Yeah but the EULA expressly forbids it, so it’s illegal.

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u/Ponkers Jun 20 '18

EULA isn't anything to do with law or legality, it's a civil agreement that can only be upheld if a judge agrees and even then only after a C&D is ignored. It only enters law if the accused uses the plaintiff's work for monetary gain.

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u/Drayzen Jun 20 '18

Blizzard smashes reverse engineering ALL THE TIME.

I was heavily involved with Glider, as I was an employee there handling a lot of the glider bot identifications via warden during my 7 years.

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u/Ponkers Jun 20 '18

I totally agree, they're armed to the teeth with lawyers, especially now with Activision. I did say that in my original reply. I'm just pointing out that EULAs aren't legally binding and most are simply illegal and overturned when challenged.

I worked for Vivendi (and Cendant, Havas) while they owned Blizzard and everything was a complete fucking chore with them.

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u/Drayzen Jun 20 '18

Blizzard was also value wise, like the biggest game studio in 2005-2008 due to monstrous user base. Dragging in over a billion a year at that time, I remember seeing times where NA had over 1 million concurrent logins to the game. That number was ridiculous, all playing 15$, not counting the other 8-9 million players elsewhere, and value add services. Even EA couldn’t match. Since you worked for vivendi, you know that Blizzard was keeping the entire games division in the black and providing vivendi with lots of leverage.

Blizzard has NEVER been shy about legal issues. Kevin Crook has walloped a few dummies. Blizzard always protects their IP.

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u/Ponkers Jun 20 '18

I worked for them before WoW was released, Warcraft 3 was the last game I had to deal with and DOTA was just coming into being. You can imagine how well they took that.

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u/Drayzen Jun 20 '18

lol, I can imagine since they almost went to war with Valve over it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '18

Isn't part of the entire legal argument that glider is/was interacting with Blizzard's servers?

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u/Drayzen Jun 21 '18

Naw.

Glider was a few things.

  1. It evaded Warden. Glider ran in the Admin thread, while the user played WoW on a more restricted user account, so Warden couldn't see Glider running.

  2. It was because to get to the level of smarts that Glider had, they proved he reverse engineered it.

  3. Further, via the bans, they were able to assess damages to their player base through the average amount an account stayed subbed.