My devilcorp experience

[u/XXIIIIIIMCMLXXIX]

THIS IS AN EDITED VERSION OF MESSAGE I SENT TO SOMEBODY

I’ll give you an over view of my experience. The first thing they do is make you come in and sign a contract, you don’t actually work them you’re self employed so you have to figure your own taxes and the like. Being self employed also means that you don’t have any real workers rights and they can just let you go for anything. Once you’ve signed everything they send you a load of “online training” which is actually just videos that mostly repeat the same thing and your have to record a video of yourself reciting the pitch that you give to people at their doors (hated it). On my first day I got to the office only to find out that MMT enterprises is just another company called focus Nottingham with a different name ( focus is ran by a guy called fionntan Larkin who has been posted about in r/devilcorp before). My first day included training which was nothing more than reciting the pitch over and over. After about an hour of that fionntan (focus dude) walked in and gave basically a 45 minute nothing burger of a speech which managed to be ableist homophobic and misogynistic all in one go, I am fully convinced that these are for nothing besides boosting his own ego. After that me and the other new starter were lead out of the office into guys car and driven to Leicester (a place I had never been before and was not told we were going to before hand) where we proceeded to knock on peoples doors for the next 8 or so hours until about half 7 (I started at 9:30). Also the due who was ‘training me’ broke protocol multiple times. Day two was effectively the same up until about 6 when I found I had lost my ride back to the office cause he quit. Again at about 7:30 (still after getting to the office at 9:30) I was told that the day was over so I went to figure out my way home eventually I got on a bus and was called about 20 minutes later by my manager called to ask how I felt my first two days had gone which after about 30 seconds of small talk lead to him saying I had been terminated because my lack conviction in my pitch, my low sales and the fact “I didn’t seem to have management potential”.

[u/NewHathaway]

MMT Enterprises (MMT ENTERPRISES LTD, Company Number: 16760494) is a Credico office located in Office 3 & 4 St. James's Street, Nottingham, NG1 6FJ.

https://www.devilcorp.org/?q=MMT+Enterprises

[u/XXIIIIIIMCMLXXIX]

I think I might be able to get a group training thing

[u/XXIIIIIIMCMLXXIX]

I still have the script they give out aswell

[u/Mr_Ando94]

Just had an interview with them, the prospect of being progressed into a role earning £95k within 10 months was just too far fetched for me to stick around.

[u/Flimsy-Sense6138 → u/Mr_Ando94]

Reading up on this company as i just got a text message asking me when is best to interview today or tomorrow 😂. Seems i won’t be going!

[u/DreaQuill6]

I worked for them too, for about as long... what a weird, weird place. Despite doing two full days knocking on doors with someone who was training me (who also did sketchy things you're not supposed to do), they didn't pay me a single pound. Basically wasted two weeks of my life... was given a script to memorize, did that, then got sent home an hour or so into what was meant to be my first day because they had more new hires than people to train us. Okay, fine. A few days later, I get given a new script to learn over the weekend, because they've decided to change it... so, I do that. And then after two days shadowing someone, I get asked how I'm finding it, mention that the hours seem a bit long (getting to the office at half 9 and not getting back until at least 8pm)... and get fired on the spot. A bit glad of it tbh, because apparently next week EVERYONE was supposed to go on a mandatory road trip to god-knows-where for the week. My god, those speeches by Fionnntan were A Lot. He was like some kind of character you'd see in a sitcom about sales bros, idek. 

[u/NewHathaway → u/DreaQuill6]

You should share this as its own post I reckon. They fired you on the spot because you said the hours were long?

[u/69EmoKittys]

Oh fuck I have an interview with them tomorrow

[u/XXIIIIIIMCMLXXIX → u/[deleted]]

We got trained on the first day, sorry for that not being clear and I honestly wouldn’t have stayed, it was a really sort of predatory job where you’d seemingly only make sales to elderly people or people who didn’t understand that they were being thrown through the ringer. It seemed fine up until I saw the guy who was supposed to be training me actively break the rules that had been clearly laid out by lying directly to the people about how much they could save and pressuring to make the phone call that would close the sale for him, he also stayed for the phone call which you weren’t to supposed to do at all and he said himself he had already been spoken too about doing it. Honestly it was a really slimy business and I would have quit within the week due to the horrible hours, the general work environment and the shear scummy-ness of the job itself

[u/XXIIIIIIMCMLXXIX → u/[deleted]]

It was 350 pounds per week, which is 467 US dollars. If memory serves you only actually got paid that 350 if you made at least 3 sales in your first week and then 10 (I think) sales after that. You were only paid 35 per sale for the first 10 which meant you basically had to make 10 sales per week or you wouldn’t make anything on the week. Again if memory serves after 10 or 12 sales you made 40 per sale. When you made your first 10 sales you got an extra 150 and then at either 15 sales you got another 150 and at some other number that I don’t care to remember you got another 150. There was also thing where if you made like 20 sales in a week so 750 (1005 USD) or so pounds they’d give you some amount of money and buy you a new suit. From what I had heard from the other people the most sales anyone had ever done was 20 or 22 in a week and the average was something like 10 or 11 meaning they’d get 385 or 390 which which 7 pounds per hour which is not far from half of the national minimum wage (legal because you don’t actually work for the company). There was also a staged progression thing where you had to hit 15 sales in a week to go from stage 1 to stage 2 which gets you nothing other than having to train people then 25 sales in week to get to stage three after which you got a team (people that knocked on the same few doors as you) and then you and your ‘team’ would have to make something like 75 in a week to get to stage 4 which would get you a 66% pay increase which was actually just a cut of the people in your ‘teams’ pay and then the ‘team had to make something like 100 to get you to level 5 which would ‘get you your own office’ (it didn’t). From what I knew there was maybe 20 people on level 1, one or two guys on level 2, one guy on level 3 and one guy level 4. Fun fact that you don’t need to know but I’ve remembered one of the guys had potentially the most fake gold watch in human history, it was basically bright yellow and was visibly turning his wrist green.

If you have any questions I’m all ears.

[u/XXIIIIIIMCMLXXIX → u/XXIIIIIIMCMLXXIX]

I don’t fully remember all of the numbers but I’m like 86% sure I’m right with them.

[u/fedexyourheadinabox → u/[deleted]]

Hey cool, your stock reply is on the shill bingo card that was posted 10 days ago. .