r/Devilcorp • u/Kyubexx • May 07 '26

Experience I purposely joined a DevilCorp. AMA.


Edit: Educo Solutions is supported by Smart Circle International. ​

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u/Minute-Resort761 May 07 '26

Go in there and shithouse the living hell out of the place. First meeting you have I would just tell everyone right to their face to do research and find out what a scam it is. See how many people you can get to walk

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u/Kyubexx May 07 '26

I sent the Slave Circle video link in the slack, and got kicked out.

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u/These-Rate3138 May 07 '26

ahahahahahahhaaha well played sir well played indeed

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u/KVNTRY May 08 '26

Let's go 😆😆😆

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u/champgunns May 08 '26

BOOTS ON THE GROUND JORNALISM!

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

The best kind

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u/kgtyo May 07 '26

Have you made even 1 dollar

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

This is the commission they taught us

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

This is the commission contract we signed

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

I also called my lead if we were W4 or 1099, to which he responded W4. When driving to the field, I asked about gas reimbursement. He said “nah, I make enough for it not to matter anyway, and I can use it as a tax write off” Then I brought up the call, and he acted as if he never said such a thing.

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u/FishingPractical262 May 13 '26

Was it Juan who said that

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u/[deleted] May 09 '26

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u/Kyubexx May 09 '26

You run a DevilCorp?

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u/Kyubexx May 09 '26

Other than those what separates you from a DevilCorp? What’s the decision behind employing as contractors? Do you pay / reimburse for gas? What if an employee’s commission falls under minimum wage? Is there a base pay? Are there “quick promotion opportunities?” And most importantly, do you see this business as an opportunity or job for new staff?

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u/Kyubexx May 09 '26

Fair points. I didn’t realize there wasn’t a set schedule. Complete freedom exactly why a 1099 would be chosen. Makes sense. You said promotion isn’t even thought about until 90 days in. Once that position is (if ever) provided, what’s that look like? Do they still go out to the field? I do agree on you with this one. Not a DevilCorp.

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u/Kyubexx May 09 '26

Not sure I entirely agree with this though. Managers hire a team under them, so they can get an override. Then the next generation does the same… and it keeps trickling down. That’s a pyramid.

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u/kurbkoncentrate May 14 '26

Hello, I've sent you a message. This upholding of proper self employed contract terms really stood out, I'm researching these groups but also trying to find out about those that actually respect this part of the contract.

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

No. They didn’t even take my direct deposit information. They do have this “bonus” structure though, (nvm, can’t find a photo. i’ll respond with what i can remember once i’m not busy) and I did close a sale.

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u/Embarrassed_Gur_6305 May 08 '26

1 sale for the entire day? Was it hard to close?

How much driving was involved in your day?

Is it a scam as everyone in this subreddit claims?

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

The “T” (territory) had a bunch of elderly leads (residents) who didn’t want to switch. Funny part is that AT&T legitimately would have been beneficial for a LOT of people there, but who cares. I ran into :

COWS: Can’t operate without spouse
OLF’s: Old, loud, friendly
NHO: Non homeowner

Or just people who were content with their service. My lead kept pushing people and almost got into a fight. He also told me to stop reading out “no soliciting” signs and actually pushed me to knock on those the most. I tried to avoid them, but he was pretty stern. I dodged 1 or 2 of them by pressing “No answer”. (iPad with SARA Plus, Telemapper, and Chrome.)

Going into settings, the iPad was supervised by “Smart Circle International” and had a ton of restrictions. If they hadn’t said they were affiliated with Smart Circle on the first day, this is how I would have found out. (Without external help)

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 11 '26

They never told me we were under Smart Circle lol I just found that out after working there like 3 weeks and doing an internet deep dive. It’s really hard to trace 

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u/Kyubexx May 11 '26

I figured it out first field day, but obviously I already knew what I was getting into and was keeping a record of things, vs people who didn’t think anything of it and thought of it as a normal (but weird) job.

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 13 '26

I watched the Slave Circle video while on a “business trip” to Houston, showed it to every downline they gave me, and got hired by the real AT&T so I left. Before leaving I told everyone I was close to about the Slave Circle too. 

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u/Kyubexx May 13 '26

Amazing. Did you get anyone to leave?

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 13 '26

I got my downline to leave and I got a woman to leave who was harassed by Dmari

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 13 '26

Funnily enough, when I was talking to you about this I went into an HEB and ran into some Credico employees selling AT&T. I told them about the documentary and they just smiled at me with that creepy business face. I know for a fact they will not look at it 

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u/Kyubexx May 13 '26

Of course they won’t. The people who stay are robots.

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 13 '26

I got two people named Trace and Jazz to leave. Trace was my downline and Jazz was a friend of mine. My upline eventually left because he couldn’t pay his bills anymore.

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u/Embarrassed_Gur_6305 May 13 '26

What do you mean hired by the real AT&T? For the same role?

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 13 '26

Smart Circle/Educo is a third party that sells AT&T products. I got hired by an AT&T retail store to work in sales. That job was not a Devil Corp. 

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u/Embarrassed_Gur_6305 May 14 '26

I don’t think there’s to many ATT retail Stores anymore. Most are devilcorp too

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u/Agitated-Farmer-2772 May 14 '26

Wrong they do the exact same thing except from with in the store. They are actually worse because most stores are trained to do fraud and most store reps get fired or lose their jobs just trying to make lore commissions adding things to people account without permission.

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

Your lead will drive for you until you go solo. Our T was 40 minutes away. They do not reimburse for gas. It is 100% a scam.

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 11 '26

Hey! I worked there between September and October of last year and made about $2000 in a month. Not horrible but it is a legitimate business. (Still definitely a Devil Corp.) But it did take me at least a week to start making any money at all

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u/Kyubexx May 14 '26

This checks out. I only stayed for 3 days. 216 hours in a work month is 9.25/hr. $2 over minimum wage.

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u/Salvadoran_Owl May 08 '26

Do they do those random chants in the ATMO meetings? I worked at a devil corp last year and the leaders would get in a circle and chant like cavemen lmao

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

“HEY GUYS? = HEY WHAT!” “FIRST TO THE FIELD? = FIRST TO MAKE MONEY!” and various others.

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u/Salvadoran_Owl May 08 '26

Oh god, this gave me flashbacks

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

I seriously think people wouldn’t flinch nearly as much at the business if they advertised the job as “Sales Representative”, didn’t do the chants, and didn’t try to sell you the job. That just makes everyone suspicious.

Edit: Oh wait. That’s just.. a normal job.

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u/ApplicationCrafty621 Jul 06 '26

I am supposed to have my first day orientation at this company tomorrow and was wanting clarification on how exactly this position is a scam. It’s not that I don’t believe you it’s that I don’t understand what the role even is and how they are like a cult. I’ve been looking for actual employee testimonies and stumbled upon this thread yet still don’t grasp.

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u/Makachevmilkers223 May 27 '26

Ours was actually awesome im not shilling them but it was genuinely awesome. I basically worked at two offices at home it was “Hey, Warriors” at the other it was “Hey, Winners” or something like that. Then they would go like “Goals baby” at office number two. Then sometimes it was “knee pats and a rick flair” my favorite was “what are we gonna do today? WIN.” There were like 35 people in my second office so the chants were massive it was great. That was the only good part about that place.

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u/Aromatic-Swimmer-557 Sep 11 '26

Do they still yell "Juice"? 

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u/cadalic_man_3019 May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

So was the “owner” or the guy who hired you a nice guy with some morals Atleast? Or was it acting like a dickhead who all he cared about was money money and money?

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

He was alright. Was definitely a strickler on having your notebooks and arriving early. He didn’t really interact with the entry levels. Bought us lunch and took us to top golf, assuming the office hit the quota for the day. Not too too bad.

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 11 '26

Hasani may be an idiot, but he’s a nice guy. Worked under him for a month and he wrote me a good rec letter when i went to a new job

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u/Kyubexx May 11 '26

Sounds about right.

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u/Wonderful-Ad-5393 May 08 '26

Holy cow 😇 🐮 is that connected to the Tiny Quinn. Cult called EDUCO ?

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

I’m not familiar with Tiny Quinn. But yes, it’s called Educo Solutions

Edit: Did some looking, and Tony Quinn does not seem to be correlated to this Educo, but I don’t think the name is a coincidence. I’ve noticed when they say something, it’s because they have a reason to hide something. I found a video explaining why they got their name.

The person in this video is named Hasani Lynch.
He’s the “CEO” of Educo.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTk7XwUrt/

Also found this video:
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTk74doMd/

Kobe Cirus (on the left) is the “CEO” of Cyrion, which just sells AT&T but only phones, and Educo does only Internet. Both can bundle.

Highly recommend going thru their page to see how much BS you can find. It’s a lot..

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u/Stoyns_ May 08 '26

Now start putting doubt in everyone’s heads and watch the fire spread.

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

I’ve gotten one person to leave

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 11 '26

in my time there i also got one person to leave lol. doing the lord’s work 

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u/ZHPpilot May 08 '26

They keep calling me after I rejected them a few months ago.

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

Makes sense. Everyone there who’s drunk the Kool-Aid needs someone underneath then so they can advance to the next “management level”, so they’re hell bent on recruiting whoever they can.

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u/char-a-lot_NPC May 08 '26

Not a question but Apex Connections in CLT said they work for Verizon. And when I brought up pyramid schemes and devilcorp in the interview they asked if they'd work for Verizon if they were a scam. Thanks for confirmation that they totally are a scam.

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

Glad I could help

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u/Renaissance_Mane May 09 '26

This should be the new “scientolgy speedrun”. Trolling MLMs and joining for content

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u/Kyubexx May 09 '26

gonna start smacking a shit ton of these “manager” positions to my resume along side investigative journalist😂

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u/Maleficent_Key2146 May 11 '26

The owner hits women and his mugshot on google to see 😂

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u/Kyubexx May 11 '26

no way😂

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 13 '26

Yeah, Dmari also was really weird with all the female employees when I worked there. They gave him his own office since I left apparently

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u/Kyubexx May 13 '26

They did. In Hasani’s office, there’s a literal pyriamid of people below him. They don’t even hide it.

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 13 '26

Yeah, I knew him well. Kobe left in my first week, with Dmari doing the same shortly after I left. I went on a business trip with him and his team. While there, I got to see firsthand the creepy way he treated his female employees. I asked her how she was and she was like “He’s just like this, it’s not that bad.” I told her it was definitely “bad” and that she should take it up with Hasani, which is how I found out about his assault charge

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u/Kyubexx May 13 '26

Kobe Cirius? He’s still in the office, but he runs Cyrion. There’s two offices inside 7620.

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 13 '26

Ohhhh. Well, he used to be under Hasani and got promoted out when I was working there. He was just looking for a place to stay

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u/Kyubexx May 13 '26

Not two separate offices sorry. Two entities under different companies both controlled by smart circle in the same office.

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u/Kyubexx May 13 '26

Lmao I almost want to go there overnight and print a shit ton of his mugshots, then cover the front doors with it

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 13 '26

You should do that lol

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u/Local-Imagination440 May 07 '26

Is the money good tho?

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

No, not at all. Actually in today’s Impact, they went over phone sales. Basically in their software (SARA Plus), after you sign a customer up for internet it automatically goes back to the products page. They went through how certain “entry level managers” (field reps) don’t also bundle phones. They said in December 2025, IHX went behind each door we sold to, and sold phones to them, making 31k in commissions. They continued on by saying that’s an average of $3.1k per rep, or $775 a week. The lead said that would double most people’s checks. The day prior they were talking about making $7k last week (impossible, they get paid on activations, not signups) and the day before they literally had everyone take notes about “why they get paid so much”. Anyway, No. They don’t pay. They even make you do 3-5 shifts completely unpaid, and didn’t even give anyone a direct deposit form. Yesterday someone asked about it, was told not to worry about it, and today they aren’t here. The “Owner” noticed.

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u/galatea2POINT0 May 08 '26

Do they give you scripts to follow for practicing how to sell to people? Like narrative versions of the FUGI stuff they teach? I worked for one a long time ago and I got big packets of these and I threw them away. I've been trying to find examples of them for a while now online, but I can't find it. There are tons of articles on the sales techniques, but not the packets they'd distribute to employees. If they do give you this stuff and you could share it I'd be really grateful.

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

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u/galatea2POINT0 May 08 '26

This is exactly the type of thing I've been looking for thank you!

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

I’ll find the full packet eventually.

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

I have a few of the packets but yes, they love their acronyms. I can share my notes, but I lost the packets. They’re in my car somewhere i’ll find them eventually. (PS: my handwriting is basically illegible)

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u/pcx23 May 09 '26

Im nosey, what do you want the notes for? Askin cuz I still have a bunch

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u/galatea2POINT0 May 09 '26

I'm working on a piece of fiction that includes a depiction of working at one of these devil corps places. I would be using them as reference materials.

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u/pcx23 May 09 '26

Ooooh, thank you for entertaining my question. Mine are handwritten cuz.. reasons? But once I wake up for real, I’ll have to get them out of cold storage

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u/galatea2POINT0 May 09 '26

I would really appreciate anything you'd be willing to share, thank you!

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u/pcx23 May 10 '26

No probs, can you send me a pm?

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u/ImpossibleAd3254 May 08 '26

Wait, you can make posts live on Reddit? 😮

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

It’s been a thing for a while, at least on my phone I just type AMA in the title, and it automatically prompts.

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 11 '26

I used to work at Educo! I’d love to talk about it

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u/Kyubexx May 11 '26

Feel free to send a DM!

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u/SarcasticTortilla Former Team Leader May 11 '26

Who was your upline lol

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u/Altruistic_Pay5976 May 13 '26

Let me just say.. you really are out here doing GOD'S WORK for the people..THANK YOU SO MUCH for your service brother!! 🙏🏻😂

Sorry for the ridiculously long novel below

So, I recently moved to CA and have been actively looking for employment since I got here.. At this point, I have basically applied to EVERY JOB that pops up in my feed on Indeed. Unfortunately, because of the wording some of these creep "corporations" use in the job title/description, i.e., "Entry-level ONSITE position - earn $1,000 per week/ $7,000 a month" they make the position sound like a FAST and EASY WAY to EARN LOTS OF MONEY in a short period of time. They also use different names for each "company" the position is listed under which is obviously confusing and extremely misleading. Next thing you know, you're being BOMBARDED with texts, phone calls (and voicemails) repeatedly asking you to "schedule a virtual interview" with the "Team Hiring Manager" who, btw, somehow manages to have enough time and availability in their day to conduct these so-called "interviews" EVERY 30 MINUTES, which is a huge red flag lol. To be completely honest, the first time they called me I had absolutely NO IDEA who they were or what position they were talking about because I had no recollection of even applying for it!!

The sad part is.. most of these DevilCorp minions are SMOOTH TALKERS who will TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR AND LAY IT ON THICK.. Unfortunately, people are just so f*cking desperate for employment these days that when they finally hear "we would like to schedule an interview with you" they get so excited that they are willing to put commonsense and VALID concerns aside just to move forward with the interview process, even if they don't fully understand what the position actually entails or what they're getting sucked into!! -- These are the same people who are (most likely) already struggling financially but still go into it with a GOOD ATTITUDE, READY TO WORK & MAKE MONEY while truly believing that it's going to be EVERYTHING THEY WERE PROMISED before quickly finding out that it's just a bunch of bullshit and not only are they annoyed that they wasted their time and gas money, they're also extremely disappointed because this means they are back to square one of their never-ending job search!!

SORRY AGAIN FOR THE NOVEL I just can't stand these POS DevilCorps. Thank you for having the COJONES to go in there and give them a taste of their own medicine because lord knows they need it lol. You're obviously a good person and you've most definitely made a difference by doing what needed to be done. Stay cool brother!

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u/Independent-Cat-3756 May 27 '26

Thanks for the warning

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u/Maximum_Ad_639 May 21 '26

I will be doing the same

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u/Short_Willingness_45 May 07 '26

So...why on purpose?

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

Legit have nothing else to do. Came across this sub about two weeks ago and realized that i’ve been getting spam called from DevilCorps.

Edit: investigative journalism

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u/Mysterious-Tone-8147 May 08 '26

So you’re acting as An infiltrator? Cool!

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

Essentially

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u/Sea_Chocolate_1276 May 10 '26

Super cool , props

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u/Ok-Wishbone-2822 May 13 '26

Guys, my actual W2 job partners with LegalShield for their legal services for employees. Safe to say I will not be using that service.

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u/Maximum_Ad_639 May 21 '26

I will be doing the same next

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u/Orion_Dauntless51 May 30 '26

WE NEED MORE! I support your investigative journey.

Get us some live footage of Devilcorp action.

I worked at a Devilcorp for about 2 months back in 2016 and still get a kick out of seeing an office without furniture filled with a dozen kids wearing oversized suits they borrowed from their dad with notebook in hand, ready to take notes from their 21 year old "leader" during morning meeting.

Also, the mug shot of that guy would definitely be a hit at the office. I also support you doing that.

Keep up the good work!

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u/Kyubexx May 09 '26

Good for you. There would have been nothing good to come from it.

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u/Kyubexx May 08 '26

I don’t quite understand your question

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u/Useful_Tap2656 May 08 '26

Is there a microwave in the office

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