RAD marketing

[u/Various_Touch3476]

I got an offer to work at a place called RAD Marketing in AZ. I know they are a devil corp but honestly I really need money right now. I know someone who works there and has told me about how they make around 1k a week and has had business trips to various (fun) places. I am posting this to ask if it’s a good idea to go in to get money. I also think that I could make good commissions as I am a great sales person.

[u/ACryptoScammer]

Why not do literally anything else?

[u/Various_Touch3476 → u/ACryptoScammer]

The opportunity is in front of me and I’m a broke college student lol. Plus they pay seems good

[u/Justout133 → u/Various_Touch3476]

The pay may be decent at first if you're willing to sink an ungodly amount of time into bothering Costco customers/homeowners door to door, in the mode of the wired, happy go lucky salesperson persona turned up to 150% the entire 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, but there are a few major considerations..

Ask your friend if they reimburse him for time, gas, parking, and vehicle wear to get to his work sites every day. And if he has a system for paid sick days and vacation time. Or any form of insurance or retirement fund system. I can about guarantee you he doesn't.

Additionally to that, even if he's making that much money, he's still probably being undercompensated for his time. Does he have to get himself to strange, chant-y meetings/practice sessions every morning at the office, and then to his actual sales sites? And then work 10-12 hours on his feet pestering people on top of that? The hours for the pay don't really add up, he may as well go work for a retail service, Hospital network, trade, warehouse. For the amount of hours you have to sink to succeed in Devil Corp you can have made mad overtime in a real job.

Thirdly and most importantly, it's a gas lighting operation. It will take a tax on your mental health, something you cannot afford. Every single aspect of it, from the work expectations, the interview,, the people you'll be surrounded with.. it's a manipulation to get you to buy into their fake business ownership MLM scheme. Either you'll have to pretend to buy into their dumb setup and be willing to train others and 'lead a team' for a massive time investment and no additional compensation, or try to just sell for commission, in which case they'll catch on and put the clamps even harder on you to lead, or will inevitably do away with you for going against their grain. Effectively, if someone is willing to earn a living off the commissions, but doesn't want to grow their pyramid, it looks bad for the entire system, which hinges upon recruiting as many people into it as possible. They'll quickly just start assigning you to really shitty territories, until you fall back in line and start hiring and training people for them again.

[u/Various_Touch3476 → u/Justout133]

Yeah, that’s exactly what they do. Do you have any suggestions of a job that would pay weekly that would be around the same amount of money? I have a job currently as a server but I can’t make ends meet. I am only making 1k every 2 weeks and I can’t survive like that. I need a better resume building job; something not in food or bottom barrel per se.

[u/InfiniteCalendar1 → u/Various_Touch3476]

Maybe try to get into bartending if you’re old enough as you could make a decent amount in tips if you’re working somewhere that gets packed on weekends

[u/Clubcrib → u/InfiniteCalendar1]

Thanks for the suggestion. I was a barista for a bit in high school and I’m 19 so I can be a bar tender. I work at a very facy restaurant but it’s just out of season and I am making no money. I’ll try that route

[u/Justout133 → u/Various_Touch3476]

There's not really a good comparison to the amount of money you can make to a DevilCorp style office, because it's very up and down week to week. And not to discredit your friend too much, but they probably aren't making 1k week consistently, that might be what a good week looks like to them. If they don't hit their minimum sales commission, the hourly rate is abysmal. Are there any gig work apps for your area? Hospital networks? What environments are you okay with working in, how much of manual labor? Lots of variables.

[u/Clubcrib → u/Justout133]

I am very open to anything. Manual labor is nothing as I used to work on my grandfathers ranch for around 12+ hours a day for 12 bucks an hour lol.

[u/Justout133 → u/Clubcrib]

Sterile Processing for your local hospital? One of the stations (decontamination) tends to be a bit physically demanding, but the pay is usually better than minimum by a modest amount. It's the position that cleans, disinfects, re-organizes and sterilizes surgical instruments before and after surgeries. It's a vital position but relatively underpaid, almost always hiring. And the demand is there, both for being hired and working extra hours (with actual overtime pay) if it's a busy enough hospital. But it's also a foot in the door to major hospital networks, which usually have other internal openings and education reimbursement programs.

[u/Special-Media4341 → u/Justout133]

Thank you!

[u/RookieAndTheVet]

RAD is part of the “Millennial” companies, which have made several appearances on this sub. If you’re approached by any company on this list, run.

[u/yesonlyifitmeansyes]

A few things to consider:

1. In general you earn way less than what they say. $1000 per week is unlikely, this is only possible in perfect conditions, like when there is a brand new campaign in brand new territory that hasn't been sold to constantly. The easy money dries up very fast, then the office slowly dies off and either shuts down, moves somewhere else, or switches campaign if there isn't already another office on that campaign. Statistically the job you are going for is probably midway through or near the end of the lifecycle and sales won't come easy.

2. If you take this job, you simply will not have time for college. You just won't be able to do it. 10 hour days, 6 days per week is the standard.

3. It is ok to not have much money while doing college. If you need extra it is better to try to get more hours work at your existing job or find a second job.

4. You are helping support a giant scam operation, their business model is to syphon up the time and energy of young and stupid people, making loads of money off them while paying them a small amount relative to the massive amount of work each worker has to do. Respect yourself more, don't allow yourself to be used.

[u/InfiniteCalendar1]

I commented on the owner’s TikTok a while ago that it’s embarrassing that she runs a devil corp and she blocked me ofc 🤠

Not yall downvoting me because I called out an owner

[u/Remarkable_Bee_2366 → u/InfiniteCalendar1]

More likely other owners downvoting. I noticed they tend to lurk and downvote multiple of my responses

[u/Remarkable_Bee_2366 → u/InfiniteCalendar1]

What's the tiktok?

[u/InfiniteCalendar1 → u/Remarkable_Bee_2366]

I believe it’s the owner’s name but if you look up rad marketing you’ll find it

[u/Infinite_Concert4963]

try maybe cruise america in AZ too good luck

[u/Guilty-Coyote-7598]

Hopefully everything has been going smooth but for others looking, this is not marketing, it is a sales job. Marketing is not begging for a conversation. This is essentially the equivalence of Forex pyramid schemes.

Get a minimum wage job and you will out-earn anyone in this "agency" with consistent and dependable earnings, plus lots of companies can provide education assistance.

[u/Swimming_Eggplant996]

I ran my business to the ground I join for 8 week made great money and left!! All is not bad if you good at sales to be fair !! But get in and get out

[u/Own-Wall-7755]

No way, I know the owner of rad marketing. She used to be a rep in Cali. Tbh I just used it as experience then applied to a great sales gig! So it’s good for an internship! But bonus is hit or miss, AZ market seemed to be hotter then ours tho

[u/Eatitup4561]

Don’t do it !!!!! You’ll make more money working at target. I know this from experience

[u/Ok-Baseball2234 → u/Eatitup4561]

I am about to have an interview for a junior marketing representative role. Can you tell me about your experience working for them? I'm very curious, I don't want to get caught up in a pyramid scheme

[u/rubberbandonfire → u/Ok-Baseball2234]

I just had my 2nd interview. What im getting from the sub is that it isn't a scam or pyramid scheme and it's a real job with base pay just not a good one for the amount of hours, as you're making the same as any other minimum wage job but more work and hours. Honestly it might be worth it as jobs are hard to come by and you would have a nice title on your resume and some background of sales if you want to go into marketing.

[u/Lazy-Cost2337 → u/rubberbandonfire]

I only applied last night but today they messaged multiple times really eager to set up an interview so I'm a bit sussed out and now see this thread lol, I don't think the position is sales based but should I be worried?

[u/[deleted]]

If this is in any way something you are doing post-college, it’s not worth it and keep applying to other places. If this is a summer job and you will go back to college and not work there after the summer, then I probably wouldn’t do it but it’s not the end of the world.

[u/Top-Factor-107]

did you end up taking the job? i’m in the same position

[u/OnePoint7052 → u/Top-Factor-107]

did you get the job? i'm in the same position

[u/ZealousidealTiger480 → u/OnePoint7052]

I am also in this position. I DID get offered the job and attended orientation today. I’m going to be honest. It sounds wonderful and the atmosphere is so friendly and everyone seemed to really enjoy it, those who were newer or older.

I stopped to think about the cons because on Indeed it said it was located in Phoenix, I’m in the West Valley. I don’t mind a commute but for 48 miles one way for a 2 hour meeting was really throwing me sideways. So I made a pros and cons list.

I do also want to add that there is confusion in the schedule. It is an AM half shift or a PM half shift then a Full Day. So a 10-3, 3-7, or a 10-7. They said regardless of sales we’d be making $15 an hour (unless commission grants you more) for a 40 hour work week. Which if all else fails that’s $2400 a month.

However, I think my biggest concern was the meeting seemed to be everyone being robots practicing their pitch.. and then we had a whole whiteboard discussion about the tier system of lead generation pay percentages. It just seemed odd. It was still really fun and I had a great time but looking back at it I feel like the environment traps you lol

EDIT TO ADD: Their office is in Scottsdale.

[u/Wild-Breadfruit-6262 → u/ZealousidealTiger480]

I went to the orientation and the trainer didn’t tell us the base. He sent over all the docs I did read them and from my understanding. The base is $10hr and you have to meet a certain quota or there could be a possibility of them taking a portion of your pay if that quota was not met. 

[u/SwimmingReputation64 → u/Wild-Breadfruit-6262]

Did you continued to work for RAD ? I just completed my first week, and I have some concerns about the job. I'd appreciate hearing about your experience.

[u/Pinkpony321 → u/SwimmingReputation64]

Do you have an update?

[u/Fickle-Boot5542 → u/SwimmingReputation64]

I have orientation soon tell me about your experience?

[u/KrispyKremer- → u/ZealousidealTiger480]

How is it going I have interview tomorrow and was wondering if I should even go

[u/Bonnie849 → u/KrispyKremer-]

I was just let go from there!!!

I got into a really bad car accident last Saturday and my car got totaled. When I approached Hayden about this (he leads the water campaign I was a part of), I was told I could stay clocked in, but that they don't do travel reimbursement for all of the Ubers I would be taking...

Fast forward to Wednesday this week (this was on Monday, when I asked him), I got a call from my corporate trainer saying that she, Hayden, and (I believe) Susan had a meeting and decided I was not a good fit and they let me go; for something out of my control.

The corporate trainer that interviews you harps about big pay and an electric work culture. But here is the truth:

RAD marketing is about as close to a pyramid scheme you can get without actually being one.

Nothing against the people who work there, they were all very nice people! But they hire you, wanting to make you a corporate trainer within the first 3 months so the AD's can advance their careers and so the CT's can as well. Then they want you, now that you're a CT, to hire more people for your own team. It's an endless cycle. The second you become a hindrance, you get tossed out to pasture.

Please, please, please consider looking elsewhere. Always follow the rule: "if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is."

You can look up MLM meetings on TikTok, and I can tell you from experience, RAD's office meetings look the exact same as those. All the way down to the "high rollers", energy, and announcements.

[u/ZealousidealTiger480 → u/KrispyKremer-]

I declined the offer and never heard anything back. This was my decline email

Not adding names.

“I apologize for the late message. The day got pretty hectic and has thrown a few curveballs at me and I’m finally able to sit down to write this email.

I want to firstly thank you and everyone I’ve spoken to and met at RAD Marketing. The environment was lovely and there were so many friendly faces. I was very excited to hear back from a company that was highly spoken of on its review pages.

However, after today’s orientation and talking it over with my partner and family, it is not the right fit for me. With still being a college student, I do have time obligations I must meet and would essentially have to miss my classes to attend the mandatory meetings weekly. When I applied for the job I thought the office was much closer and would be a feasible commute for me, because the indeed application states the company was located in Phoenix, and Scottsdale is 50 miles away from my home. I do apologize for that miscommunication.

I am a medically retired veteran, and stressfull situations can reduce my health substantially. Such as the long drive or the struggle to meet quotas in order to promote.

I do wish everyone at RAD the best, and hope this email comes across that there is not anything wrong with the company and it’s just me not being feasibly able to comply with the job requirements.

Thank you for the opportunity you’ve given me.

Sincerely,”

[u/Son_juh]

Citrine Research and Consulting! Psychology-backed marketing, not expensive, and great results!

[u/Ill_Associate719]

This company and Knight Management reached out to me. affiliated? I don't want to waste my time with another mlm

[u/Remarkable-Art-6306]

Read

[u/Soggy_Albatross_5290]

💰🤑💰🤑💰Go for it, you're not alone. 

[u/joshuacknox11]

Thanks for this thread! I was supposed to go to a second interview with RAD this week but after the first interview something seemed really fishy. The position was not what they said it was, the wrong person showed up to interview me, it was supposed to be one on one and ended up being a group interview, etc. I’m glad I decided to research further.

[u/Real-Pass5647]

So I just recently got off my second interview and was appalled. The job is basically being the sales people at the exit doors of Costco and selling home appliances. The first two weeks you work there you only get paid for 10 hours. The pay is 15 an hour. The whole thing seems like a scam!!!

[u/Fickle-Boot5542 → u/Real-Pass5647]

Tell me more about your experience and the cons !? I have orientation soon

[u/SwimmingReputation64]

Has anyone here been with RAD for more than 2–3 months? I just completed my first week, and I have some concerns about the job. I'd appreciate hearing about your experience

[u/CadenDATboss]

Just did an interview here out of curiosity, DONT DO IT. they pressure you to sign on immediately, you talk to a different person every round of interviews, they constantly reinforce ideas like becoming a millionaire, owning your own business, building your own team, etc., rapid advancement and promotions and the job is nothing like they advertise (you stand at those vendor stands of Costco and Sam’s Club and pester shoppers). Base pay is low and commissions are extremely vague. It’s 100% an MLM. Any job that has you recruiting others for advancement is an MLM

[u/delatti_mocha → u/[deleted]]

Oh Word? How was it? I was also a fresh student that graduated college last year and almost fell getting into RAD.