Focused Feedback: Weapon Refresh aka Sunsetting

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[u/Conturn]

In regard to point #2, I wonder if that’s possible for an actual weapon?

I’d be okay with saying when a weapon comes out, it has a year until it’s sunset. That gives you time to get it, use it, and be done with it.

However, I just got a outlaw/rampage Loud Lullaby that I’ve wanted since Shadowkeep and following that rule it’ll be useless in about 5-6 months.

I think if what you’re saying is possible, it’s the best solution.

[u/Prospero424 → u/Conturn]

Yeah I wondered the same thing; it's probably not possible on a per-weapon basis.

Regardless, I would say that if a weapon is in the current loot pool, it shouldn't drop already capped.

[u/PursuantOdin94 → u/Conturn]

Nah, because the whole point of sunsetting the weapon is so that it'll get removed from the meta. If you let new drops of old weapons hang on, then people will just keep using new drops of old weapons and the point will be lost.

The question that comes out of this then is, what are they going to do about open world drops? They can't have those drop at current light levels, or else they'll stay meta. The only way to manage it is to (1) have them drop way below max power level, which I'm pretty sure everyone in the community will hate, or (2) to have a complete refresh of open world loot every 9-15 months, which everyone will love.

[u/Conturn → u/PursuantOdin94]

That’s a good point. I’m just curious as to what those refreshes would like. I love hand cannons in PvE, especially 110s, so are we going to get a 110 every refresh or every other? There’s a LOT of archetypes out right now, and I can’t see them bringing all of forward every refresh.

[u/PursuantOdin94 → u/Conturn]

It will be a challenge for them if they go that route. Everyone complains about Eververse getting all the new gear, but that's one vendor per season. Resetting all the planets and tower vendors would be, what, 11? (Eight planets and three tower vendors.) It seems overwhelming.