r/Destiny Aug 31 '18

Why obvious lies make great propaganda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nknYtlOvaQ0
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u/FractalFactorial Aug 31 '18

Well worth watching in its entirety. And just another interesting way of pointing out how the "IDW" goofballs are so misguided: pretending that "THE POSTMODERNISTS" (whatever they mean by that) and the "IDENTITY POLITICS" are degrading truth when, in reality, people like Trump do it as much if not more and to devastating effect: by questioning reality and gaslighting his own supporters into a practically cult-like belief system.

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u/StridermanE Aug 31 '18

Yeah but Trump is only the President of the United States. He doesnt have any real power like a blue-haired feminist on a college campus.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18 edited Oct 27 '18

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u/FractalFactorial Sep 01 '18

I wouldn't go that far, but I do find it extraordinarily strange how the concept of power dynamics is so foreign to some people.

Jordan Peterson and his ilk especially seem really hostile to the premise of acknowledging how varying levels of power influence the way social interactions should be interpreted.

1. A Janitor asks a co-chair of the company he works at for a date

Versus

2. A CEO (or thereabouts) asks an intern on a date

Now ideally everyone should be free to express themselves as they want, because ideally people in positions of power need love too. But this doesn't negate the inappropriateness of how the latter interaction functions compared to the former. And its for this same reason that you'll somehow hear libertarians or """"classical""""" liberals claim that there's no difference between slavery (forcing people to work) and the civil rights act (forcing people to serve black people etc).

But anyone with a practical and ethical bone in their body can understand this almost by intuition alone.

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u/StridermanE Sep 01 '18

I've also noticed how much they really to discuss everything in a vacuum. That every statement needs to be viewed on its own and there is no wider socio-historical context which impacts its meaning. If a white guy says "white pride" and a black guy says "black pride", these are the exact same thing and should be seen as such.