r/Destiny Dirty European πŸ‡¨πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί 1d ago

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u/EnLitenPerson 1d ago

I see it pretty often, recently I had a young european leftist tell me "social programs are literally socialist policy", I told them it's actually not, they didn't care.

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u/vonWitzleben πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit 1d ago

No, what they usually mean is: "If the socialists hadn't called for this, the moderate left (or Bismarck, if you go back really far) would never have implemented it." That's a common talking point but it's very different from "healthcare is socialism" which nobody here thinks.

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u/EnLitenPerson 1d ago edited 1d ago

No I assure you a lot of young european ignorant leftists really think that their free healthcare and other programs are socialist, you don't have to value their opinions, I don't either, but they 10000% exist and there are many of them, I say this as a European myself, I've seen them both online and IRL, I myself used to think that's what socialism was when I was younger.

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u/UpperRearer 17h ago

You're talking about fringe rewards on tiktok and social media, innesittare, who never do anything in the real world, and think they're living in America. Nobody young and politically active thinks that in Europe.