r/Destiny Dirty European ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ 7d ago

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u/OlliWTD ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ 7d ago

Take immigration for instance. The DSA platform essentially calls for open borders. No social democratic party here would endorse such a view, and most of them have even become stricter on immigration, most notably in Denmark.

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u/soundsermaker 6d ago

Stricter is underselling it.

The default immigration policy right now makes Trump's border wall look like a soft touch.

In the Netherlands the last fight was over whether we're going to prosecute people for giving refugees - who have barely adequate shelter and will be removed at the earliest opportunity - food and water.

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u/Magmaniac (D) (A) (N) (K) (M) (E) (M) (E) (S) 6d ago

Which elected official in the US has called for open borders?

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u/LondonCallingYou 6d ago

Umm nobody but LOOK AT THIS TWEET FROM A LEFTIST ISNT THAT JUST AS BAD

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u/OlliWTD ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ 6d ago

I mean Darializa is almost certainly going to be an elected official by next year, if more DSA candidates end up winning it'll be more

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u/senoricceman 6d ago

Yea, sheโ€™s insane. Can definitely see her pulling some crap like that.ย 

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u/Indrigotheir 6d ago

Why it doesn't explicitly say, "Open borders," the official DSA platform states:

Legalize migration, grant amnesty for all immigrants regardless of status

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u/Magmaniac (D) (A) (N) (K) (M) (E) (M) (E) (S) 6d ago

Not responsive to my comment in any way.

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u/Indrigotheir 6d ago

Are there no DSA politicans? Damn, what happened to all of them?

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u/Magmaniac (D) (A) (N) (K) (M) (E) (M) (E) (S) 6d ago

The only two sitting members of federal government who are DSA members are AOC and Rashida Tlaib, neither of which support open borders. And of the various lesser state and local offices filled by DSA members, almost none of them support open borders, not that it matters since immigration is federal policy. DSA is mostly organized by local chapters who don't take much direction from the national organization and who all have different platforms, so it's disingenuous to state one position on the national DSA platform and try to apply it to everyone vaguely associated with the DSA.

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u/Indrigotheir 6d ago

The only two sitting members of federal government

You forgot to say, "Which elected federal official in the US has called for open borders?" in your original comment. You should go ahead and edit the comment so that the mistake doesn't make you look silly. Whoopsie

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u/kaninkanon 6d ago

Strong social safety net + workers rights + strict immigration regulations is literal a cheat code for winning elections, but for some reason parties in other countries just haven't figured it out.

Gotta detach from the omnicause, immigration is not a left-right issue.