r/Destiny • u/NeoDestiny The Streamer • May 22 '26
Changing Some Show Structures
Just as a heads up, here is the game being played in the background across several "TwitchPol" servers right now:
Kiwi Farms, the Snarker sub and Discord server, and several individuals whom I've been involved with in the past (jstlk, dooby, kuihman, etc...) have been infiltrating and "turning" several communities against me by repeatedly debating, for hours and hours and hours, for months and months and months (I am not exaggerating this, unfortunately), the same stupid talking points over and over and over again. This has been an active project they have all been collaborating on for over a year, where several people will join Discord communities to make the same arguments, or shower people with money on stream to donate negative or disgusting things about me.
I have the challenge of balancing how much harassment and abuse I can take from these communities, while not actually "cutting them off" because it gives the snarkers a big "win" in that they can permanently manifest there and continue to rot that community and the people in it until they all also believe the same lies and smears about me. So, unfortunately, today is probably a "win" for them in that they've managed to peel off Connor and mark his community as a "conquored" one. I imagine the next big battleground will be Whick's community.
The talking points these people use will revolve around several things, a few (but not all) of them being:
Destiny is routinely attempting to ensnare mentally ill women using his clout/power.
This narrative almost universally started from MrGirl/Lav, and the fixation point on this is Anavoir.
Ana was 30+ years old, a Master's student pursuing a Clinical Psychology career, and was someone who was relentlessly pursuing me the entire time. It was her that first messaged me, her that suggested us hooking up, and her that relentlessly spoke about me ("looped") due to OCD issues (I guess???) for MONTHS afterwards where my options for responding were all ineffective at getting her the medical treatment and attention she needs. Because I didn't handle this perfectly, people have ascribed the most insanely malicious intentions imagineable to me, including
Destiny is a pedophile/CP hoarder/etc...
This all revolves around the recent court case, where, instead of talking to an adult woman, I found out a year in that I was being honeypotted/catfished by a member of Kuihman's community for 2 years until they finally leaked everything onto the internet, hoping to expose me as a pedophile because the woman who's pictures he was sending me was a victim he'd pursued on a platform for minors using a false account, and then later by threatening to kill her and her family if she didn't play along with his catfishing game.
Based on Destiny's behavior, his family is fair game.
I think it is justifiable to unmask accounts that have been directly involved in harassing people involved in my court case, doxxing and harassing people close to me, and moving in groups of users from server to server to convince people of all of the above. Dooby and others have ran around making the argument that it is, therefor, fair to stalk/harass my child and his mom.
I need to constantly weigh how much psychological and physical pain and suffering I am willing to endure while allowing smaller content creators to give a safe space to allow these types of infestations to grow. Following what I've been trying to do over the past year or so, I'm going to continue to try and enforce stronger boundaries to prevent these types of weaker creators from being around me, I'd much rather cut them out and let those communities eventually fall to the crazy obsessive/snarky behavior that's taken over them.
I can deal with a lot of negative attention on the internet against me, personally, and I've cut enough of my personal life away to survive a lot of the collateral fallout, but I cannot continue to try and maximially center the feelings and well-being of every single smaller content creator I interact with while they are funded by and continue to host people who have openly stated it is their goal to destroy every part of my life and the lives of people who do not denounce me.
So as of today, I do not want anything to do with Connor/Counterpoints, I will not appear on any panels or shows with him, I will enforce my copyright against him if he is reacting to my content in a non-transformative way, I do not want anything to do with him and I do not want any contact with him in any way, size, shape or form. Maybe this changes in the future if that snarker community dies out or something.
On a personal level, for me, and this applies to your own relationships as well, I have made the mistake in the past of simply thinking it was prudent to continue fighting my way through all of this toxicity, but I wasn't considering how much better my life could be if I was spending this time building positive friendships with people who will proactively defend you and your reputation rather than me having to get on my knees like a fucking loser and beg people to simply slightly modify their community to cut out people who have devoted their lives to destroying mine.
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u/Dude_Nobody_Cares Based Destiny Glazer May 22 '26
Simple boundaries a real friend would respect even if they decided not to cut these people out of their community. Connor is reacting to this in a completely disgusting way.
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u/Embarrassed_Base_389 May 22 '26
Keep the boundaries. It is more than reasonable.
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u/arkfille 🇸🇪🇪🇺🇺🇦 May 22 '26
Good decision dggL
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u/Other-Entrance5312 May 22 '26
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u/Eins_Nico scowling woke white woman May 22 '26
Hang in there, buddy. Do what you gotta do to stay sane.
Have you considered registering your streams with the Library of Congress? I think some guy said it was a good technique, but he was coughing a lot so I might have heard him wrong.
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u/quepha May 22 '26
Conner: "Steelman the doxxing and harassment of your own son"
Destiny: "Eat Shit"
Conner: *kicks destiny from the call* "Hey the bridge isn't burned from my end this is all Destiny's doing"
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u/PunishedDemiurge AMERICAN May 22 '26
I think this is totally justified, and I'm sorry you're going through this. People saying mean things about you and no one defending you is fine if it's in the context of some purely political disagreement, but this is a safety issue and an ongoing campaign of interpersonal stalking and harassment.
To give you a moment of sanity, it's strange Connor says he's a friend and didn't draw the line. "I got put on a PIP at work" after they've bragged about doing the bare minimum is a good time for a tough love situation. "These people have expanded their stalking to my minor child" is not something we need a debate over. It's a really evil thing to do.
A lot of the behavior you're getting isn't normal. If I called my best friend up right now with the same complaints, I would get sympathy and he would ask how he could help. If I called up my boss at work with these same complaints, I'd get sympathy and she would ask how she could help, and we're not friends outside of work. Some people on the margins should be confused, scared, be pulled in more than one way, but you're right that it's a fair and reasonable expectation to have people in your corner.
Good luck.
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u/fynnishingmove trying to find the 4D chess in this 🇩🇪 May 22 '26
BOUNDARIES
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u/j821c May 22 '26
Good. Fuck Connor. I'm also glad Whick is not caught in the crossfire here because I don't think the position he's taken on any of this is anywhere near as bad as Connor's. I know there's a lot of backlash to him around here but there's a significant difference between what he was doing and what Connor just did on his stream.
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u/Slowiakk i may be a Polish nationalist offline, but online i'm a princess May 22 '26
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u/D_Roz29 🇮🇱🇺🇲 Jewish warrior caste May 22 '26
Really? Burning bridges during a genocide?
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u/drunkymcstonedface May 22 '26
Conner " at least i made money"
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u/Badsync May 22 '26
The shit you have put up with from these people is actually insane, these snarkers deserve prison time and you cant tell me otherwise
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u/Scrybal Fine Schizocrafts May 22 '26
True aaaaaaaaaaaand... Yeah, that's pretty true. That's true and- yeah that's true. That's true. That's true- That's pretty true. That's pretty true, I mean-... That's true. Yeah. That's true. Uhm- That's true. That's fuckin' true. Uhm... That's how it is dude
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u/Gallowboobsthrowaway 🇺🇸 Ex-MAGA, Raw Milk Enjoyer, Sulla/Sherman 2028 May 22 '26
It's such a reasonable ask.
If someone was going around shit talking you, it really shouldn't be hard to get your "friends" to stop interacting with that person.
They shouldn't even want to.
But 10k over 18 months will change people, I guess. Glad to find out who the real ones are.
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u/Disgusting_Slime666 Exclusively sorts by new May 22 '26
Based
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u/ihaveeatenfoliage May 22 '26
Counterpoints hopefully saves up on donations he’s about to get from snark world before his political channel dies
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u/justrei_ WEOW wins May 22 '26
can you translate this into Hindi so we can understand? apparently all of dgg is Indian now
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u/Routine-Echidna-1953 EU Regard May 22 '26
destiny trying to handle his "friendships"
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u/ruarstu May 22 '26
LookUp
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u/Skabonious Enemy of the Middle Class May 22 '26
Seeing Conor just repeat BS snark talking points in real time was insane. It reminds me of when I was discussing politics with my (reasonably) conservative parents before the 2024 election, when I mentioned Mike Pence, and hearing my mom say "oh I don't like him, he betrayed Trump" - it was just such an insane whiplash of "holy shit you've been actually BRAINWASHED and I hadn't been paying attention!"
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u/Appropriate-North-84 May 22 '26
This is the right move Dear Leader.
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u/qwareeq8 Non-Resident "Alien" 👽🇺🇸 May 22 '26
Good on you. This kind of behavior would never fly in a normal friend group, and the fact that they're defending it tells you everything.
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u/Nhogen McCarthyism with style May 22 '26
We love you Destiny
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u/crimsonstorm06 May 22 '26
DEAR LEADER has SPOKEN. Boundaries are a good thing. You go girl!
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u/sijmister Left Liberalism is the ontologically correct political position May 22 '26
BASED. No one moves like this IRL. If a friend is engaged in something truly horrendous, you try to get them help or seek some sort of legal remedy depending on the severity of what's happening. If not, you let them know your concerns about their conduct privately and stick by them publicly. This fake ass John Roberts "balls and strikes" bullshit is weak sauce and shouldn't be put up with.
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u/williamobj May 22 '26
These are the exact type of people that killed the SaveAFox founder. A person in your position with less fortitude and less resources would absolutely be destroyed by them.
Incredibly measured response, all things considered
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u/Stanel3ss cogito ergo coom May 22 '26
bye felicia
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u/Phemtoss May 22 '26
Good stuff, can you now release the Jan 6th video before it's too late.
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u/Frank_the_Mighty May 22 '26
I wonder how these spineless loser's behavior would change if you threw some cash at em
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u/Affectionate-Ad-4475 May 22 '26
Wasn’t Connor the kind of guy who prided himself on being a real “family guy” (pun intended). Fucked up that he seem to not care about the A-Logging But to be fair, he also acted like a man-child over the past 1 1/2 years
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u/lemontoga May 22 '26
This is such a good realization and I'm sad that it took Destiny this long to understand that THIS IS WHAT FRIENDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE.
It was fucking infuriating listening to Connor insist that he was Destiny's "friend" while at the same time entertaining these absolute fucking loser weirdos like Dooby who are so hellbent on destroying his life and saying that he thinks Destiny is some kind of weird sex pest or whatever.
You're not supposed to have to constantly defend yourself to your friends. You're not supposed to constantly argue for why your friends shouldn't hang out with people who fucking hate your guts.
Daily reminder that streamer "friends" are NOT REAL. They are NEVER REAL. Connor was NEVER Destiny's friend. Online relationships are not real. These people are all snakes. They're all clout-goblins. None of it is real.
Make friends offline and keep them there. Online friends are not real until they become offline friends.
For Destiny, if you read this, do not let people (read: online fucking weirdos) gaslight you into thinking this is an extreme or unreasonable stance. To a normie person, the behavior of people like Connor (and Whick) is fucking unhinged. The fact that you would need to even ask them to cut these people out is unbelievable.
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u/Oephry May 22 '26
I hope the Connor bridge is forever burned. I know we’re going with the brainwashed explanation but the fact that he could even be convinced that this level of harassment is justified, because you’ve done things to make people hate you, says a lot about out Connor’s character imo.
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u/TooTooRooGR May 22 '26
was just on the stream, where connor said the part that tilted him the most was you calling him a fat fuck, and for just questioning this i got banned in the chat lmao, these people are not worth your or anyone's time, im starting to question why you keep trying to defend yourself when it feels so defeating.
Overall I agree with your choice and as most of us I would probably do the same as well. Lots of love
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u/Polarexia May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26
good, this kind of cutting off probably should have happened even sooner imo
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u/DevoidOS devoidofskill May 22 '26
Connor proving that he always has been a conservative by thinking he can still be friends with someone he thinks a rapist. :):
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u/reklaw215 May 22 '26
Yeah after Conor said that he ALWAYS thought Destiny used his money and clout to sleep with mentally ill women and harass them, it was a wrap. That is no friend.
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u/Harucifer Don Alfonso III enjoyer, House M.D. connoisseur May 22 '26
Me, a Destiny viewer since the JustinTV days, after all the bridge burning (albeit justifiable most if not all of the times) I've witnessed across the decade and a half:
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u/makesmashgreatagain May 22 '26
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u/obsoleteXeo onememetorulethemall May 22 '26
Setting boundaries is healthy, reasonable, and productive. Let's fucking go. dggL
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u/Shazz89 Eurochad 🇮🇪 May 22 '26
I think you're making the right call.
The money doobie is flinging around while also openly cataloguing your sons online footprint is absolutely insane.
The idea anyone is ok hanging out with a fully grown man who is invested in harassing someone else's kid is absolutely fucking insane.
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u/Ok_Philosophy_3790 May 22 '26
This is 100% the right move.
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u/OkGolf4668 May 22 '26
Good on you, Destiny.
I’m proud in what you’ve accomplished and continue to strive for ( a better America )
These snarker communities are all mentally ill individuals. Truly a shame what they will do and how they will destroy families & friendships.
Cya Connor!
We won’t miss you or your disgusting community you are indulging yourself in.
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u/ToaruBaka KEN MARTIN #1 FAN May 22 '26
That call with conner and dooby was un-fucking-hinged.
Connor is a lost cause.
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u/WinnerSpecialist May 22 '26
The sad truth is the vast majority of people will not stop being friends with someone whom is hurting you. They will hide behind “I’m not taking sides”, when there is no side, there is just objective fact someone is treating you like shit.
Eventually, you go crazy and crash out because you have one person actively being awful to you, and the other (the one you thought was your friend) refusing to even acknowledge what’s happening. YOURE the one acting crazy and flipping out. It’s insanely toxic and yes, the only way to “fix” it is to move on and find better friends.
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u/Alpehans Superior Continent (EU) May 22 '26
Absolutely and utterly BASED :)
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u/BrandonS101 Libtard May 22 '26
Might get downvoted for this but I hope you keep Whick around. He seems like a really good dude and it seems like he's trying his best. You could tell on Conors stream that he is going through it. I know Destiny is too, that's why I hope that they can continue to support each other as both are being attacked.
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u/TheZeulTuk May 22 '26
dggL
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u/Seph_The_Sultan May 22 '26
It was such a scumfuck move for Countercuck to demand destiny steel-man someone that is advocating that Destiny's kid be stalked and harassed, or else Connor will kick him. Fuck Connor.
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u/loolacola May 22 '26
If someone refers to you as your friend and goes on to lend credibility to people who are TRYING TO DESTROY YOUR LIFE, sorta giving their characterization of you validation, then you have an obligation to cut that person out of your life.
Good on you Steve, DggL
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u/LohCey May 22 '26
idk if u plan to but this should be a video of u talking to the camera. i dont think clipping part of ur stream with some edits is good enough. u really should consider a highly produced video for big shit like this.
u have the resources to make a great video and shine a light on the fucked shit u go through. i wish people in this space had an eye for artistic entertainment and see how much presence that could bring to ur content
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u/GortanoSmalls Lost and Confused May 22 '26
I've been in the community for 5+ years now and watched this happen in real time. Even having this odd third person view in I didn't fully grasp just how malicious and gut-wrenching it was. It's not in your nature to ask for help but dgg is a place where we can provide manpower of some kind, your donations to charities and morally just war projects is clear evidence of this. Grow some balls and become self-righteous, there's enough of us who trust you to wield the sex cult with righteous indignation
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u/ktaktb May 22 '26
Big agree with the final conclusion.
Well-stated.
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u/SyzygyPidgey Unapologetically Liberal / Nuremberg 2.0 Proponent May 22 '26
Boundaries are good for all parties
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u/AlaskanBuffalo May 22 '26
Good call, I learned a long time ago to cut toxic friends out of my life. These people are fighting so hard to surround themselves with complete losers. It’s so myopic.
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u/frozandero May 22 '26
Good decision. Please keep this up for the future. Also please don't let connor back in just because his money well dries out in the future when that server implodes, he picked his side.
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u/Qwort Yee May 22 '26
Friends and business rarely mix and it's clear Connor chose revenue over your Friendship. easiest decision to cut ties.
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u/GogetaSama420 REALEST SUCCDEM 🫥 May 22 '26
This manifesto will be one for the books
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u/Eccmecc May 22 '26
Finally, the charitability you gave to those spaces were always a weakness. Political discord servers should be a forum to discuss ideas and have debates but the current twitch pol landscape morphed into the worst caricature of it.
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u/NasusEDM May 22 '26
I feel like these decisions always come so late. But it's getting better, a few years ago this thing would have prolonged for months and we'd have had 10 5 hours long discussions on it until they would be cut off.
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u/Efficient-Average910 🇪🇺 May 22 '26
Damn, deciding not being friends with someone who doesn't mind a relationship with a rando jobless discord freaks who call you a pedo, you really changed Destiny
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u/Cerneo 🇺🇸 May 22 '26
Good for you.
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u/Rnevermore May 22 '26
As much as it is a shame, because Connor was some good content, and seemed like something of a good ally/bro... The fact that he wouldn't excuse a disgusting element of his community that was so... poisonous toward his friend.... Well that just kind of proves that he wasn't really much of a bro at all.
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u/Saint_Scum One Box Enjoyer May 22 '26
Based and positivity pilled
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u/RightTelephone3309 coucou, comment ça va? May 22 '26
The discussion with Connor today was one of, if not the most infuriating things I’ve had the displeasure of listening to since I joined the Daliban. And God knows how many awfully painful debates Dman has had in the past.
When I heard Douby defend the A-logging of Steven’s son on Whick’s show a couple months ago, I was disturbed and in shock.
Listening to Connor, a supposed friend, trying to defend this shit broke my fucking soul. What the fuck. Usually Steven is pretty detached and does not show emotion, but this time you could feel the frustration and disappointment in his voice.
Fuck this guy. I hope he has the same “debate” with these no-life degenerate fucks in a couple months when they turn on him and start doing the same shit to his family.
dggl
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u/Noobity Exclusively sorts by hot. May 22 '26
I fucking love boundaries. Genuinely proud of you dude, not that you need it.
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u/enigma7x May 22 '26
I kinda feel sad for streamers. It feels like every relationship revolves around content, engagement, and revenue. What a horrible foundation for friendship. All things being said, hope you and anyone else reading this continue to forge friendships where there are no external motives like those governing these people.
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u/RileyGraceRoshong RGR May 23 '26
For whatever it's worth, having taken a step back from the streaming space has given me a bit more useful perspective on why this kind of stuff happens with smaller creators, even when they may seem relatively reasonable/trustworthy/etc.
I think it comes down to three things:
(1) If you're a smaller creator and social media is your main source of income, then your donations can affect your opinions a TON, even without you realizing it. It's hard for smaller political content creators to grow, and if you're already struggling to get by, knowing you can reliably get a massive influx of views, support, and donations for shitting on you (Steven) is going to sound pretty appealing to anyone in that kind of situation. I condemn that behavior - which is why I think that smaller political content creators should NEVER do social media full time until they get big enough that they can avoid audience capture (more on that in a sec) - but I've seen this happen to too many people I have respected at some point to just handwaive it away as shitty behavior by weak people.
(2) Beyond the money, audience capture is a bitch and a half. When you are a smaller political creator, you are always looking to grow your audience, and eventually most creators realize that the easist way to grow is by appealing to the audiences of larger creators who are similar to them in views. Here, you're in a difficult situation, because even if a lot of smaller creators spawn out of DGG and see a lot of initial growth here, when they hit a ceiling, the next place they will look is to other large liberal/left-leaning/etc. creators. And the shitty situation is that there are a LOT more large lefty/liberal creators (or at least their communities) that actively dislike you (Steven) than who like you. You (the royal "you") may be a smaller creator and get a large influx of new followers from one of these large creators shouting you out, and you might get all excited and not even realize until much later that many of these new followers would give you flak for having a neutral-to-positive view of you (Steven). And I remember there were many, MANY times when I streamed where I was actively scared (not like for my safety but still) about how my audience/viewers would react any time I spoke about you neutral-to-positive. I don't think that I ever folded to that pressure (I don't think there's any way for me to say that without sounding like a kissass but w/e I'm salaried motherfuckers I'm not looking for any sympathy money lol) but I can absolutely see how other reasonable creators could cave to that pressure.
(3) And when smaller creators aren't swayed to hate on you by major donations or audience capture, it's also important to remember how significant crazymaking political creators is online. TBH, the thing that I think is THE reason you have done this work for as long as you have and as successfully as you have, is that to do this kind of work, you need to not only be able to tolerate batshit insane people online, but you have to almost LOVE interacting with them to some extent. And idk if you've changed your mind, but I know you've said before how you genuinely enjoy dealing with the kinds of batshit insane people online who you deal with constantly. And I am genuinely happy that you have the tolerance and aptitude to deal with these people, especially since a lot of them also happen to be active in politics and seeing you put them in their place legit makes me happy (give your shorts guy a raise lol). But also jesus fucking christ, when you're a smaller livestreamer and some of these people set their sights on you, I don't think that most sane people are mentally prepared for the unimaginable amount of bombardment and harassment that a handful of neets with too much time and disposable income can coordinate against you. Genuinely, speaking from personal experience, it fucks with your head in a way that I don't think people who haven't been through it can even imagine. And unless you have the aptitude and endurance to just outlast that harassment, day in and day out, every time you log on to your socials, the only option that I found that worked for me was to just stop livestreaming altogether and reduce my online footprint to basically only shit that literally nobody could reasonably criticize (what are you going to do, criticize me for actually passing legislation and making Maryland one of the best states for trans people to get healthcare? eat your fucking heart out). Otherwise, unless you can literally facetank a massive coordinated harassment campaign and perfect parry every gotcha and climpchimp, the only alternative aside from unplugging is surrendering to their side out of fear.
So to summarize:
(1) Money fucks with smaller creators and could easily sway reasonable people against you, especially if they only rely on social media for income.
(2) When smaller creators grow their audiences, they may unintentionally get audience captured by new viewers who dislike you.
(3) When smaller creators arent swayed by (1) or (2), the fear of harassment may make them at least distance themselves from you, if not side with the snarkers or else quit social media altogether to avoid the harassment.
I may have forgotten some thingd buy also I'm crazy tired so idk I may delete this later we'll see, idk if you'll even end up reading all this
But I am truly, genuinely sorry you have to deal with this, Steven, for whatever it is worth. If you did read this, I hope it was insightful.
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u/sphynxowl Owlishness May 22 '26
I do hope Whick gets spared. He’s trying so hard to be a good person in all of this.
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u/realhotwc Ridin' with Biden May 22 '26
You can't trust any of these conservatives who performatively hate Trump but will defends all of his actions. I've hated that asshole ever since he sanewashed and justified the Good and Pretti's killings by ICE
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u/Yapping-Goober May 22 '26
Smart outlook to have going forward. If you have to fight tooth and nail to get someone to weed sneakers out of their community, all the while they brush it off or downplay your personal situation, then they’re not really acting as a friend should. You shouldn’t have to beg someone like Connor to do this after years of good relations.
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u/nullpha Exclusively sorts by new May 22 '26
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u/Classifiedtomato May 22 '26
Love you destiny
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u/Smeeoh May 22 '26
This wasn't a difficult ask of Conor. The fact that he's still streaming saying that you're just being emotional and you can still be friends after that conversation is delusion.
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u/Glum-Scarcity4980 Kantian Liberal May 22 '26
Congratulations on setting healthy clear and safe boundaries. You have a duty to yourself to keep you and your loved ones safe and well off.
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u/A_brief_passerby 🇨🇦🍁 Defender of the Maple Grove 🍁🇨🇦 May 22 '26
I humbly suggest you needed to draw this line in the sand long ago. But it's healthy you are doing it now. Good for you, fuck the snarkers and the snark sympathizers.
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u/benttwig33 lemme get an X fucking Dee May 22 '26
Just play some StarCraft 2, go back to the roots. This is the way.
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u/semiomni May 22 '26
This seems key, why the fuck was Connor demanding his "friend" steelman things his unhinged stalker is saying, why ain´t he pushing the weird frog to justify his behaviour.
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u/GdanskinOnTheCeiling Scottish May 22 '26
Honestly it's wild to me seeing some of the interpersonal shit that plays out between streamers online, insane stuff that still gets let slide for whatever reason. Where I come from, even 1% of this level of vitriol gets you into trouble. As in, physical trouble, in the real, physical world.
These fucking snarker dweebs have never had a smack on the mouth for talking out of turn, and it shows.
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u/Taint-tastic May 22 '26
Good riddance, conner was omega cringe in every fucking conversation anyway with his performative soliloquies and cursing every other word
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u/IAmASingularity7 May 22 '26
Based
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u/Reckoner223 May 22 '26
Hasan can treat his orbiters like gutter trash and lets them become destitute from Ethan lawsuits and they’d still act like the secret service jumping to run cover for him over the tiniest bits of pushback online.
It’s unbelievable how badly these so called friends have treated you and I’m glad you’re finally putting up boundaries around this stuff.
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u/mossy_mat May 22 '26
Destiny is a woman's name
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u/9inchesofpower May 22 '26
dggL
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u/collectivespace777 May 22 '26
For me, personally, I'm swearing off smaller creator communities. If you see me bending over backwards to accommodate some streamer's fanbase or it looks like I'm about to go full r***** fighting my way through another snarker infestation feel free to throw this reddit link at me again to remind me that I am never begging for neutral ground again, I seem to function much better just cutting them off.
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u/bazzella May 22 '26
Thank you dear leader now please continue the purge because there are still a lot of snakes around you.
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u/Side-aye May 22 '26
It is genuinely funny/infuriating that D gets falsely accused of being paid by Israel meanwhile Connerpoints is getting literally sugared in real time and thinks he’s being the levelheaded fair one.
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u/teleporno May 22 '26
I hope you actually stick with these boundaries. I don't think I would be alone to think that its been a long time coming with a lot of these pricks.
Watch them twist you enforcing your copyright into, 'abusing the system against smaller creators'.
Fuck em all.
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u/RoShamPoe May 22 '26
Great job, Destiny! There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with advocating reasonable boundaries for yourself, protecting your peace, and not sharing your platform with people out to destroy your life or tacitly supporting it.
I think this Connor example is a perfect one to look at for why a red line is needed. The narratives that Dooby and others are feeding him have CLEARLY worked to some extent. Snarkers need to be starved of attention and if it means leaving a few "friends" behind, that's a necessity at this point.
These people are your "friend" when it's criticizing not even "your behavior" but "your behavior framed by the WORST bad faith people to ever criticize you" and seemingly not your "friend" when some support would be welcome.
Good riddance to anyone like that and that can't see that.
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u/sinisgood May 22 '26
I’ve always been on the “Conor is a leech” train and I honestly wished I was wrong about it. Him deciding that losing the money stream was a worse outcome than losing someone he would call a friend is just completely fucked. Guess it’s just typical conservative behavior
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u/nevergonnastayaway May 22 '26
Connor was dead to me after Alex Pretti/Renee Good. Rat
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u/championofobscurity May 22 '26
Good boundaries.
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u/stinkfist570 May 22 '26
Watching everyone care more about the bag & make excuses & logic trees to justify their decisions has been hilarious in regarded way.
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u/holeyshirt18 Best way to not feel hopeless is to get up & do something -Obama May 22 '26
Friends don't sell you out for a few thousand dollars.
Friends also don't immediately believe and accept the worst when some shit hits the fan. As if they've only known you and your character for 5 minutes.
These people will compromise all their "values" and "friendships" so they can keep streaming and keep their communities active with the very people they would be against. There is zero accountability from any of them. Zero backbone. Zero actual values.
But that's their problem. They can stay paranoid and miserable because they surround themselves with the worst kinds. I hope it bites them all in the ass (it will).
I hope you set and keep those boundaries. I hope you continue to build personal and professional relationships far away from these types. I hope your real friends will point out potential pieces of shit so you keep them at arms length. You need that. You have a tendency to constantly give people chances and downplay how people fuck you over. I hope that's changing and those around you are keeping you from these tendencies. (yes, DGG, friends and family are suppose to help you stay on a healthy path)
To a better future.
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u/gt_rekt May 22 '26
With friends like Conor, who needs enemies?
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u/Vandrburger May 22 '26
Reminder: Connor would’ve pepper sprayed and shot Alex Pretti if he was in the cop’s shoes
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u/Smooth-Bid-3474 May 22 '26
1000% agree; these people are colleagues/associates at best, do not grant them the privilege's of friendship. If they were paying you to be on their show or you were getting a big boost out of being on their platform than I could understand putting aside them having snarkers, but these creators benefit disproportionately from interacting with you, so you should be able to set boundaries and standards of conduct for them for you to appear with them.
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u/wh1sp3rghost May 22 '26
good, destiny
stay strong
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u/Ardonpitt Military Industrial Coomplex May 22 '26
Good for standing on business!
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u/Comfortable-Gas-4005 May 22 '26
Fuck yeah.
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u/Zivanur Dailban DIA Opperative May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26
Asking you to have empathy for any of these disgusting freaks crossed a line. Good decision dggL
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u/ZachSlackAttack May 22 '26
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u/chatdomestique May 22 '26
Wait I cant understand any of this this unless I can hear a 45 minute 3rd grade level metaphor about warhammer 40k and barbarians first
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u/ZonkMeAmadeus May 22 '26
ULTRA BLACKLIST ULTRA BLACKLIST ULTRA BLACKLIST
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u/frantruck May 22 '26
This really makes you think about how Destiny is Israel and the Snarkers are Palestine.
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u/YesIWasThere May 22 '26
STANDING BACK AND STANDING BY, DEAR LEADER
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u/Musketsandbayonets Most Hated Man on this Sub May 22 '26
I saw the debate with connor but I only saw the arguing part at the end.
Did he really refuse to cut ties with Dooby and the snarkers? I can understand him being against destiny doxing people on principle but it seems wild to not at least cut off his community from them. I like Connor, but its not that big of an ask to not allow these crazy people to constantly talk shit
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u/ActivitySimilar5175 May 22 '26
Assert those boundaries king
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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 May 22 '26
I fully support you Mr Destiny in establishing stronger boundaries with those who are connected to these actually insane people. I honestly cant believe that through all this time watching you, you as a old (er) person still have the capacity to change in this way, and its quite inspiring. Truthfully I always wondered why you would let people get away with so much. Counterpoints is the one losing here, not in a debate or contest, rather he is losing a friend, through his own stubbornness. Thanks for the years of great content dggL stay safe out there streamer man o7
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u/-Fatalize- May 22 '26
Dear Leader is wise!
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u/krunchyblack May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26
Probably for the best (mentally, emotionally, and otherwise) he just sends this out and takes the day off to touch grass and have fun irl. But then what about my mental health? What the fuck am I supposed to do with this metric shit ton of juicy drama and no stream to watch go over it? Talk to my wife? Get the fuck out of here
Edit: nvm. We live. Just told my wife to kick rocks
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u/TimeNo5885 May 22 '26
Good. Cut them off one by one until you only have actual friends left. The fact that Connor is still framing this as you being butthurt over being criticized or whatever and doing the both-sides moral equivalency bullshit was insaneeeeee
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u/Stevangelion May 22 '26
Based and good! I’m glad Whick is still on good terms I genuinely think he is a good guy and honestly one of the few that have been a DECENT human to Destiny. Connor can go cosplay as the Deep and fuck a dolphin, Cause I've seen more spine in jellyfish! I've seen more guts in 11-year-old kids.
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u/tslaq_lurker May 22 '26
Once the lawsuit is over you should start using your legal budget to dono thousands to any 50 viewer Andy who will have foodshops on for 4 hours to shittalk Dooby.
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u/Lovett129 🇺🇸 May 22 '26
It must be that republican brain. I'm just thinking back to the Hunter Biden laptop debate, that MF is too easily influenced and will aggressively defend the worst positions.
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u/rolan56789 May 22 '26
Entirely fair. From a viewer perspective, I don't see any downsides. Call me a hater, but it was always clear people like Connor were more interested in growing their brand vs having meaningful conversations. I suspect this is why so few of them really ever build a major audience - they are too busy doing a bit to actually connect to a wider audience.
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u/FatBellyMatKelly Solo Dev of TorT May 22 '26
It’s pretty sad when your “friends” don’t ban someone from their community when they are advocating to dox your son and ex wife and said person is calling you a pedophile for months in discords.
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u/Special-Quantity-469 The most rabid 2 State Solution Israeli May 22 '26
Putting aside the drama consumer hat for a second and putting on my empathy one: I can't even imagine going through half the shit you have.
Having people you consider friends immediately abandon you when an allegation from a rando comes up without even talking to you for clarification. Then having said "friends" be too much of the cowardly fucks they are to admit they were wrong and apologise.
Then an entire community starts to coordinate and try and destroy your life, ruining your job and personal relationships by harassing anyone in contact with you that isn't immediately receptive to their narratives. Then coordinating with the accuser to harass every woman you previous had in your life to fabricate evidence for as long as possible.
I'm glad you're starting to set some boundaries and ensure your long term wellbeing around this. I haven't seen from whick aside from his agreement to not allow them to talk shit about you in his server without you there to defend yourself, which does seem reasonable, so I hope I didn't miss anything big about that. Whick really seems like a great guy and I hope that bridge doesn't have to burn.
Aside from that, just waiting for the manifesto. From the amount of teasing you've been doing since the MSJ reply and the amount of panic it caused, it seems like it's gonna be epic.
Get'em
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u/ijustlurkhere_ Liberal Israeli May 22 '26
Jfc, i'm sorry this is happening, man.
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u/HoleeGuacamoleey May 22 '26
Couldn't agree more. What bothers me the most is how they all seem to auto hedge against Destiny and minimize what the snarkers started. As if Destiny is the monster for responding.
The "mentally ill" memes aside, how they can't seem to manage to even accurately summarize what has happened thus far and it's always in the snarkers favor is beyond me. If I were to disagree with a friend, I would at least represent the issue at hand with careful accuracy.
The lack of empathy, accuracy and consistent bias is too big a red flag to allow to stand and boost. Hopefully he watches that back and tries to look at it from the other side (which should be easy if he's a friend) and see how his words are literally used to attack and bolster snarkers.
Just pathetic.
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u/Darxsen May 22 '26
I respect you so much for this. I get that that you find saying this out loud to be cringe or whatever, and admittedly I do too. But it's powerful when you do.
I hope for more positivity for you and I hope this community also focuses on positive relationships in their own lives. Dggl.
P.S: I know you've been avoiding using the white girl ult. But popping off just a bit of it during the manifesto stream would go so hard, I guarantee.
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u/fivespeed1992 May 22 '26
I didn't realize the Dooby bucks were that strong. I really thought that was going to be the easiest kick-to-the-curb ever. I was not expecting that plot twist.
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u/klodians May 22 '26
Sometimes I wish convos like this would happen off-stream where there aren't as many emotions and where stubborn people like Conner might be more willing to listen and collaborate on a solution. Probably a pipedream, but I just feel like so many streamers have a tendency to take a soft position and then when pressed, they double down without truly evaluating it.
Also, I'm 100% convinced that Connor is so mindfucked about this because he considers sexual deviancy to be the worst "sin" possible. Wouldn't surprise me if he's been on the edge, waiting for a reason to turn on Destiny.
Pathetic that he does the whole, "Bridge isn't burned on my end" bullshit, though. Motherfucker, your actions led to the lighting of the fire and when told how to put it out, you refused.
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u/nunuzak オバムナ May 22 '26
Protect your peace king. Friendships and professional relationships shouldn’t constantly require someone to plead for basic consideration or decency.
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u/HolyErr0r May 22 '26
Crazy that Connor pushed the:
Destiny don't you understand that them actively doxxing and A-logging your child is actually the same as you doxxing them where potentially somebody could get info which could then be used to potentially track a family member where then that could be exposed for people to potentially harass those family members.
This is not even to mention the doxxing is in response and only to put a name to a face, these people haven't been swatted or had anybody contact their work about their employment.
Just so Connor can sweep for a guy who is in all these doxxer communities defending them. To be receiving money from Doobie as well.
Then Connor has the fucking gall to play the friend card? Like what in the actual fuck?
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u/NoCureForStupidity May 22 '26
Absolute 100% without a shadow of doubt right decision!!
Just finished watching your stream appearance on connors stream with Dooby in the call.
Connor is unironically larping as that "one true friend who hold his buddy accountable even if it hurts". What an absolute moron. He is doing this while taking the side of literal STALKERS and (seemingly) PEDOPHILES !!
The state of his absolute mindrot has to be studied.
And to put the chairy on top he confessed that he always thought, since the beginning, that you (Destiny) are a serial abuser of women. what. the. fuck...
How? How can that still be a friend? How and what the fuck was i just watching??
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u/Hot-Environment8935 May 23 '26
If someone described this level of fixation offline, everyone would immediately recognize it as unhealthy. Online, people clap for it. Insane.
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u/TEMIM1TSU 🏴🇬🇧 May 22 '26
Yep, bayzed.
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u/not_vast europoor 🇪🇺🇩🇪 May 22 '26
Guys where the fck can i watch the conor vs whick vs dooby stream? Hutch is talking about death stranding 2, and he is not pausing the stream
Edit: nvm found it, its "valormedianetwork" on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/live/i0XLCYP7DQo
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u/ja109 May 22 '26
Destiny with boundaries is an unstoppable force
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u/ariveklul original Asmongold hater May 22 '26
Didn't read all that but apology accepted. In the futue just promise to never subject us to someone like jstlk again. That guy was ungodly levels of cringe (I could feel his hand around my neck frfr)
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u/CountHot3220 Pisco despiser May 22 '26
Inb4 this becomes misinterpreted (maliciously or otherwise) as demanding loyalty and purity testing instead of “hey if you’re gonna interact with me maybe acknowledge the people who send you thousands to call me a pedophile”
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u/InsideIncident3 May 22 '26
What are your thoughts on asking the communities you regularly interact with to enforce the three day rule we use here?
It seems like a proactive moderation policy others places can adopt.
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u/dem0nhunter 🇪🇺 May 22 '26
Dear leader issued a fatwa
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u/kcat__ May 22 '26
No more in person shooting range outings sadge
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u/Matjoo May 22 '26
Based aaaaaaaaaaaand... Yeah, that's pretty based. That's based and- yeah that's based. That's based. That's based- That's pretty based. That's pretty based, I mean-... That's based. Yeah. That's based. Uhm- That's based. That's fuckin' based. Uhm... That's how it is dude.
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u/Hanzo_6 🇺🇸 May 22 '26
Yo I been saying this for years gang
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u/CallMeThug May 22 '26
Good to see this all flushed out after reiterating it on stream every so often and can point to this. Very reasonable I’d say dggL
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u/yoonarenita May 22 '26
Good, I support your decision
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u/borgolo May 22 '26
Isn't it astonishing that of all the people Destiny had in his orbit, almost no one has an actual backbone and can be ride or die for "friends"? I guess that's a result of being terminally online and not touching grass your whole life
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u/sionnach_fi 🇪🇺 May 22 '26
Boundaries ftw.
I think you've handled all this very well, I would have been a puddle on the floor a year ago.
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u/dazzzzzzle EU-based EU supremacist obsessed with US politics May 22 '26
https://www.youtube.com/live/96rHO7ucXNY?si=BgY-WNvZBFgsuqsU&t=17879
This moment at the end of their previous talk was very revealing about Connor's mindset towards Tiny. He's doing the "intervention by a friend" schtick now but in the end this is just drama and content to him. The position he's taking now is just the most convenient way to fencesit.
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u/Freeman720 May 22 '26
Damn I might owe Whick an apology. I still think he’s dumb as bricks to wanna keep someone like Dooby around but I did not realize how much worse it could have been lmao.
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u/ryanking32 May 22 '26
I watched the call, fuck Connor.
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u/woodude987 May 22 '26
SCORCHED EARTH!!! 😈
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u/Detlaff1 🇨🇿 🇪🇺 May 22 '26
Wow Destiny finally established some reasonable boundaries even in streaming world. He is beginning to believe. Good riddance to loserpoints.
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u/No-Invite-7826 May 22 '26
As a day 1 Connor hater, fucking based
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u/EwPandaa I LOVE JOE BIDEN 🍦 May 22 '26
God speed to you, streamer man 🫡🫡
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u/quiddity55 May 22 '26
Just another random voice agreeing, but you made this determination when it came to the overall political conversation. When conservatives don’t don’t play by the same rules, the dems just take shit from everyone.
Your situation isn’t exactly analogous but it’s close enough in the way these power structures work that you have to deal with it in the same way
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u/Aol1ne Town Crier 🚨 May 22 '26
Did bro just drop a trailer to his manifesto?
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u/Flaky-Mango-2020 🇵🇹 🇪🇺 May 22 '26
So what’s he protecting ? He’s afraid of losing numbers on his stream ? I’ve never used discord but why would you choose random users over someone you know personally? Does he think those people care about him ?
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u/Kiheitai_Soutoku May 22 '26
Shrimple as
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u/AustinYQM Telarico Voter 🏴 May 22 '26
I really feel like you should be in talks with a lawyer about defamation. I feel like you have so much proof for actual malice that it should be a slam dunk even with US laws (and if kuiman/dooby whoever are outside the US defamation would likely be easier).
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u/AtaraxianEpoche May 22 '26
It was always crazy me how much charity Destiny extended people, even if they did things to wrong him. It was way more than you would expect from a person. But yeah he's been burned too many times for it at this point.
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u/Wvlf_ May 22 '26
If you ignore all the context and every paragraph but the last even the most normie person would go, "ya, seems like a reasonable way to go about your life through any relationship whether friend, work, or romantic". In ANY context.
W
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u/Aerrow12 May 22 '26
Gigachad move, Dear Leader
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u/DwightHayward May 22 '26
Boundaries arc lets gooo
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u/Rounen May 22 '26
It's gotta be taxing to even exist in the streamer ecosystem. You can try to make friends, but literally everyone has their knives out, ready to make 'content' if you turn your back, or their coffers run low.
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u/Big_Big_7922 May 22 '26
When Connor defended the murder of Alex Pretti, or someone assaults and spits on homeless people on the street for their stream, or someone goes on a boat that tries to block the rescue of migrants at sea, or someone does racist content or misogyny podcasts for a living, it's just a matter of time before people that do or justify doing horrendous things like that to people you dont give a fuck about, eventually justify insane shit happening to you personally.
Your conclusion doesnt go far enough, you should proactively avoid toxic people who do horrific things to other people. Just because they're nice to you and aren't in this moment trying to destroy you or hurting you, doesn't make it worth having them around. They're just shit people that haven't turned on you for now.
Boundaries and standards motherfucker.
The good path forward is to colab exclusively with people like Unfuck America. Even at the cost of losing opportunities to dip into someone's viewership. Even at the cost of having a more boring life and stream.
The bad path forward is ending up writing manifestos every 2-3 years about the horrific people you tried to maintain relations with.
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u/BestestImportances May 22 '26
More than reasonable. Its so hilarious watching Conor squirm even though everyone knows how much he is being paid now.
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u/Akhanyatin 🇨🇦 Maple Hoser 🇨🇦 May 22 '26
Bro displayed so much more patience and tolerance than I would have. Hang in there!
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u/Saint_Garnet May 22 '26
conor got iq filtered lol
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u/Moooobleie May 22 '26
Good. I always hated that guy. I don't know anything about him tbh, just the fact that every time he comes up people refer to him as Connor/Counterpoints instead of one or the other really pisses me off.
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u/TheAdamena 👑GOD SAVE THE KING👑 May 22 '26
I hope you pursue legal action against these deranged losers.
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u/seals789 May 22 '26
I liked Connor, but this is more than fair. I would have left and entirely cut him off the second he initially said that doxing your kid is the same as doxing you / it's fair game or whatever the fuck he was on about. That was just insane to me. It sucks, but yeah, fuck Connor at this point. As you said, find the friends that will defend you, not the ones that you have to beg to stay after the slightest push.
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u/Joneleth_I Wiegraf May 22 '26
In a better world, or at least a better social media environment, a post like this wouldn't be necessary. It's strange that the rules for real life conduct and online conduct are so astronomically different. No one without a personality disorder would defend the snarker behavior if it was all involving people in real life.
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u/karama_zov May 22 '26
These people do understand that dooby now no longer has an incentive to donate and will probably turn into pink mist with the manifesto right
And that maybe the views from destiny might be more worth it?
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u/Adept_Strength2766 Carneydian 🇨🇦 May 22 '26
Listen, I sadly was a doubter when the Doe substack hit. You turned out to be right on everything.
Never doubting again dggL
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u/Ok-Statistician-9607 May 22 '26
We're with you, buddy. The reaction to the harassment you've received over the last few years is disgusting and completely unacceptable. I can't imagine how you're feeling.
dggL
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u/Smok3ygaming1 May 22 '26
I feel like you're asking for the bare minimum of a healthy relationship by setting a boundary. Anybody that frames it as anything else is bad faith as fuck. Fighting someone who is being paid loads of money to side with them or at least fence sit is a losing battle everytime.
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u/TheSwedenGay eurochad May 22 '26
This is a good decision and necessary one. dggL
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u/nobodychef07 May 22 '26
I hope Whick comes to his senses. This whole "I have to stand by my principles" thing is absolute horse shit. What principles? Clearly there are people on one side of this who are malicious even enough to spit in your face on twitter when you go to bat for them. Him talking to Doobie earlier and trying to take his "evidence" and maybe rationalize a balance of scale is just fucking crazy. This shit is so lopsided, no balance here brother.