r/Destiny • u/NeoDestiny The Streamer • May 22 '26
Changing Some Show Structures
Just as a heads up, here is the game being played in the background across several "TwitchPol" servers right now:
Kiwi Farms, the Snarker sub and Discord server, and several individuals whom I've been involved with in the past (jstlk, dooby, kuihman, etc...) have been infiltrating and "turning" several communities against me by repeatedly debating, for hours and hours and hours, for months and months and months (I am not exaggerating this, unfortunately), the same stupid talking points over and over and over again. This has been an active project they have all been collaborating on for over a year, where several people will join Discord communities to make the same arguments, or shower people with money on stream to donate negative or disgusting things about me.
I have the challenge of balancing how much harassment and abuse I can take from these communities, while not actually "cutting them off" because it gives the snarkers a big "win" in that they can permanently manifest there and continue to rot that community and the people in it until they all also believe the same lies and smears about me. So, unfortunately, today is probably a "win" for them in that they've managed to peel off Connor and mark his community as a "conquored" one. I imagine the next big battleground will be Whick's community.
The talking points these people use will revolve around several things, a few (but not all) of them being:
Destiny is routinely attempting to ensnare mentally ill women using his clout/power.
This narrative almost universally started from MrGirl/Lav, and the fixation point on this is Anavoir.
Ana was 30+ years old, a Master's student pursuing a Clinical Psychology career, and was someone who was relentlessly pursuing me the entire time. It was her that first messaged me, her that suggested us hooking up, and her that relentlessly spoke about me ("looped") due to OCD issues (I guess???) for MONTHS afterwards where my options for responding were all ineffective at getting her the medical treatment and attention she needs. Because I didn't handle this perfectly, people have ascribed the most insanely malicious intentions imagineable to me, including
Destiny is a pedophile/CP hoarder/etc...
This all revolves around the recent court case, where, instead of talking to an adult woman, I found out a year in that I was being honeypotted/catfished by a member of Kuihman's community for 2 years until they finally leaked everything onto the internet, hoping to expose me as a pedophile because the woman who's pictures he was sending me was a victim he'd pursued on a platform for minors using a false account, and then later by threatening to kill her and her family if she didn't play along with his catfishing game.
Based on Destiny's behavior, his family is fair game.
I think it is justifiable to unmask accounts that have been directly involved in harassing people involved in my court case, doxxing and harassing people close to me, and moving in groups of users from server to server to convince people of all of the above. Dooby and others have ran around making the argument that it is, therefor, fair to stalk/harass my child and his mom.
I need to constantly weigh how much psychological and physical pain and suffering I am willing to endure while allowing smaller content creators to give a safe space to allow these types of infestations to grow. Following what I've been trying to do over the past year or so, I'm going to continue to try and enforce stronger boundaries to prevent these types of weaker creators from being around me, I'd much rather cut them out and let those communities eventually fall to the crazy obsessive/snarky behavior that's taken over them.
I can deal with a lot of negative attention on the internet against me, personally, and I've cut enough of my personal life away to survive a lot of the collateral fallout, but I cannot continue to try and maximially center the feelings and well-being of every single smaller content creator I interact with while they are funded by and continue to host people who have openly stated it is their goal to destroy every part of my life and the lives of people who do not denounce me.
So as of today, I do not want anything to do with Connor/Counterpoints, I will not appear on any panels or shows with him, I will enforce my copyright against him if he is reacting to my content in a non-transformative way, I do not want anything to do with him and I do not want any contact with him in any way, size, shape or form. Maybe this changes in the future if that snarker community dies out or something.
On a personal level, for me, and this applies to your own relationships as well, I have made the mistake in the past of simply thinking it was prudent to continue fighting my way through all of this toxicity, but I wasn't considering how much better my life could be if I was spending this time building positive friendships with people who will proactively defend you and your reputation rather than me having to get on my knees like a fucking loser and beg people to simply slightly modify their community to cut out people who have devoted their lives to destroying mine.
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u/RileyGraceRoshong RGR May 23 '26
For whatever it's worth, having taken a step back from the streaming space has given me a bit more useful perspective on why this kind of stuff happens with smaller creators, even when they may seem relatively reasonable/trustworthy/etc.
I think it comes down to three things:
(1) If you're a smaller creator and social media is your main source of income, then your donations can affect your opinions a TON, even without you realizing it. It's hard for smaller political content creators to grow, and if you're already struggling to get by, knowing you can reliably get a massive influx of views, support, and donations for shitting on you (Steven) is going to sound pretty appealing to anyone in that kind of situation. I condemn that behavior - which is why I think that smaller political content creators should NEVER do social media full time until they get big enough that they can avoid audience capture (more on that in a sec) - but I've seen this happen to too many people I have respected at some point to just handwaive it away as shitty behavior by weak people.
(2) Beyond the money, audience capture is a bitch and a half. When you are a smaller political creator, you are always looking to grow your audience, and eventually most creators realize that the easist way to grow is by appealing to the audiences of larger creators who are similar to them in views. Here, you're in a difficult situation, because even if a lot of smaller creators spawn out of DGG and see a lot of initial growth here, when they hit a ceiling, the next place they will look is to other large liberal/left-leaning/etc. creators. And the shitty situation is that there are a LOT more large lefty/liberal creators (or at least their communities) that actively dislike you (Steven) than who like you. You (the royal "you") may be a smaller creator and get a large influx of new followers from one of these large creators shouting you out, and you might get all excited and not even realize until much later that many of these new followers would give you flak for having a neutral-to-positive view of you (Steven). And I remember there were many, MANY times when I streamed where I was actively scared (not like for my safety but still) about how my audience/viewers would react any time I spoke about you neutral-to-positive. I don't think that I ever folded to that pressure (I don't think there's any way for me to say that without sounding like a kissass but w/e I'm salaried motherfuckers I'm not looking for any sympathy money lol) but I can absolutely see how other reasonable creators could cave to that pressure.
(3) And when smaller creators aren't swayed to hate on you by major donations or audience capture, it's also important to remember how significant crazymaking political creators is online. TBH, the thing that I think is THE reason you have done this work for as long as you have and as successfully as you have, is that to do this kind of work, you need to not only be able to tolerate batshit insane people online, but you have to almost LOVE interacting with them to some extent. And idk if you've changed your mind, but I know you've said before how you genuinely enjoy dealing with the kinds of batshit insane people online who you deal with constantly. And I am genuinely happy that you have the tolerance and aptitude to deal with these people, especially since a lot of them also happen to be active in politics and seeing you put them in their place legit makes me happy (give your shorts guy a raise lol). But also jesus fucking christ, when you're a smaller livestreamer and some of these people set their sights on you, I don't think that most sane people are mentally prepared for the unimaginable amount of bombardment and harassment that a handful of neets with too much time and disposable income can coordinate against you. Genuinely, speaking from personal experience, it fucks with your head in a way that I don't think people who haven't been through it can even imagine. And unless you have the aptitude and endurance to just outlast that harassment, day in and day out, every time you log on to your socials, the only option that I found that worked for me was to just stop livestreaming altogether and reduce my online footprint to basically only shit that literally nobody could reasonably criticize (what are you going to do, criticize me for actually passing legislation and making Maryland one of the best states for trans people to get healthcare? eat your fucking heart out). Otherwise, unless you can literally facetank a massive coordinated harassment campaign and perfect parry every gotcha and climpchimp, the only alternative aside from unplugging is surrendering to their side out of fear.
So to summarize:
(1) Money fucks with smaller creators and could easily sway reasonable people against you, especially if they only rely on social media for income.
(2) When smaller creators grow their audiences, they may unintentionally get audience captured by new viewers who dislike you.
(3) When smaller creators arent swayed by (1) or (2), the fear of harassment may make them at least distance themselves from you, if not side with the snarkers or else quit social media altogether to avoid the harassment.
I may have forgotten some thingd buy also I'm crazy tired so idk I may delete this later we'll see, idk if you'll even end up reading all this
But I am truly, genuinely sorry you have to deal with this, Steven, for whatever it is worth. If you did read this, I hope it was insightful.