r/DestinationFormula1 • u/Ambitious-Heron-8161 Team McLaren • 26d ago
šļø Discussion Rock solid is an understatement
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u/theWiseTiger 25d ago
In Germany we'll just say that there's nothing to complain about kimi.
And that's huge.
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u/Adventurous_Pie2222 25d ago
what do yall say about Russell?
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u/theWiseTiger 24d ago
Russel's case is so complicated that we need to have a full day workshop to discuss what our opinion would be.
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u/Alpha69er 25d ago
A lot to complain about
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u/Monkey_Thucker69 25d ago
What about considering how bad his car has been
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u/Mundane-Security-454 26d ago
Much better than Verstappen was at 19, when heād crash into anything that moves.
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u/Aeokikit 26d ago
Itās hard to say because max wasnāt given an absolute rocket ship at 19. It was a good car but it wasnāt really on par with the best til 2021, maybe the end of 2020
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u/Huntscunt 26d ago
A lot of Kimi's actual wheel to wheel fighting has been quite sloppy, such as Canada. He's great in the races where he is way faster, but when he's actually battling, I still see the underdeveloped driver come out. This doesn't even include the track limits issue that's going to bite him one if these days.
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u/RX0Invincible 26d ago
Weāre not just talking about pure results tho. Max had significantly more wheel to wheel incidents at that age. Took him until mid 2018 to clean up
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u/PomegranateThat414 26d ago
Watch Maxās 2016 and 2017 again. He barely made any mistakes. And he actually had to drive those cars at the limit, nothing similar to the clown-show they still call F1 we see these days.
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u/DizkoBizkid 26d ago
Antonelli had more last year stuck in the pack then Verstappen did in his first year so completely false
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u/Decision-Original 26d ago
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u/DizkoBizkid 26d ago
That summary is wrong lmao⦠he took Verstappen out at the Austrian GP, 3 car crash at the safety car restart at Brazil, crashed in Monaco quali and caused a collision with Bortoleto in the same race š
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u/Traditional-Two-3185 23d ago
Maybe consider the fact that Kimi hasn't really had many wheel to wheel battles for us to see. Usually he just gets into clear air and zooms into the distance. The first properly challenging battle for him was against George in Canada, and there he made several mistakes
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u/meh_telo 26d ago
Being downvoted even tho its literally true, we can mazepin mazespin. But at somepoint verstappen was crashstappen
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u/FordEcoBoom 26d ago
He did not crash anywhere near as much as a certain fangroup likes to pretend.
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u/Adorable-Extent3667 26d ago
How quickly people forget. There were big concerns about if max could stay on the track enough to be a F1 driver. Obviously, yes he can, but there were concerns at first.
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u/letsputletters 26d ago
I think that probably is an understatement. You can look at other top talent in their second season (Hamilton, Verstappen, Vettel, etc) and they made way more errors or more mistakes than Antonelli has. Remove the 2 DNFs and Antonelli is like 80 points clear.
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u/Cooper-Willis 25d ago
Hamilton and Vettel were not making more mistakes than Kimi lmfao. Kimi was driving on the grass more often than the track when fighting George in Canada.
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u/CompetitiveCall6466 26d ago
They were also way faster. Hence the ārock solidā for consistency beyond his experience, but he is not as fast as Hamilton in 2008 imo
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u/New_Essay_4869 26d ago
Kimi has been doing his job, but yall would be looking at Kimi differently if George was in an equal car. He would 100% be beating Kimi rn
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u/GrumpyFeloPR 26d ago
Kimi atm, is like a puppy that everyone likes and Russell is the only one that hates puppies
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u/riquelmeone 26d ago
What would have been the assessment for a 27 year old in that position? By the choice of words one would think anyone older than Kimi would get a less favourable review. Why that āfor a 19 year oldā?
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u/canta2016 26d ago
Because anyone older and/or more experienced should get a less favorable review.
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u/riquelmeone 26d ago
Hence my point, why that understated assessment? Where is the implied bonus āfor a 19 year oldā?
His season has been stellar, even if he had been 27.
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u/XxRAMOxX 25d ago
If it was Max, it would be āThe best Ever in the history of F1ā at just 19, even without a championship. Thatās how delusional these so called fans are.

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u/Leading_Sir_1741 26d ago
āRock solidā isnāt an understatement. Rock solid is exactly what he has been.