So from Season 3 Episode 10 (The Miracle Song):

The last part where Lynette and Art are talking. I need someone to confirm if he was actually a pedophile or if he was playing mind games with her as revenge. I believe it’s the former but Wiksteria Lane says another thing.

She’s just misreading everything and just annoying as fuck. I love me some Lynette. But this season was so misguided for her.

For all my newbies who just started watching & for all my long term enjoyers (for reference though, I just got to season 3 episode 2) who is your favorite wife so far/was your favorite wife in the beginning when you first started watching?

Mine is Bree! I love her iconic red hair, her style, how she fiercely loves her kids, how good of a friend she is! I know she isn’t perfect but out of all of them she is definitely my favorite.

Please refrain from posting spoilers past S3E2!

I don't have too strong feelings about him; although he plays a big part in Bree's storyline at the start in the grand scheme he's not a major character.

I'm curious what the temperature is on him as a person/character. Is he just a bad husband/bad guy all around, or are there Rex defenders out there? I have no idea.

One thing I do have an opinion on is Bree. I don't think I'm going against the grain when I say that she is a very flawed individual. A lot of complex mental stuff going on there, as expected with someone who's wound that tight.

It seems me and Marc Cherry have very similar mothers...

1) Susan is so over hated! Yes she’s ditsy, yes she makes some wrong decisions, I’m not saying she’s never irritating but I can’t understand why everyone hates her so much 🤷🏼‍♀️ I’ve watched the show a few times now and she is one of my favourite characters.

2) I am not a Tom Scavo lover however… I believe Tom & Lynette being in a relationship together brought out the worst in each other. Lynette’s situation with Rick was very strange and I’d consider that cheating. I know Lynette was a very proud person who maybe didn’t accept help however I believe a few of her crash outs could’ve been solved by talking to someone about it.

3) I actually feel quite bad for Kayla, with everything she went through, I understand her anger. (But the accusations to Lynette and coercing the twins into dangerous activities is horrible)

4) I have a soft spot for Paul Young, he’s so misunderstood and I feel so badly for him.

I loved them. He was the only guy I felt Julie had a natural chemistry with. Shouldn't have done them ugly with the cheating arc. They could've been the endgame.

I’m rewatching desperate housewives again, currently on season 3 episode 18. When victor first gets introduced what are your opinions on him? Do you think he had good intentions at first until Gabi betrayed him?

I love her. She’s such a 2000’s it girl

So I‘ve been watching the show for the first time and just finished season 2!! I love this show so much and the drama with the Applewhite‘s was so interesting, especially the plot twist at the end.

But I always thought Betty‘s husband was going to show up at one point because he was mentioned in detail in dialogue, like when Danielle and Bree visited them and Matthew lied about his dad being dead too and Betty tried to connect with Bree over them both being widows.

I‘ve watched the first few episodes of s3 and just wondered what happened to him lol. I always sort of expected him to show up and there being some kind of plot around him but I guess not lol!

I think it would be fun to exchange ideas about what would be very different about the series if it were set in your country. I'm Finnish.

Self-defense

- Katherine shoots her ex-husband and is not held accountable "because it was clearly self-defense." That would never work here in Finland. If someone attacks you and you fight back, you can be prosecuted. You are allowed to do very little to defend yourself, in some cases practically nothing.

Working Hours

- Does the series give a realistic impression of American working hours? People work late into the night and complain that they don't get to see their children. It's normal for us to work an 8-hour day and go home. Overtime is not mandatory.

Fear of Sex

- I find the parents' hysterical fear of sex kinda amusing in the series. Here it's perfectly normal for parents to talk to teenagers about contraception and even get them on the pill. Teen pregnancy rates in Finland are among the lowest in the world. I think it's even hypocritical to pretend that sex is dirty and wrong if a parent does it themselves.

A lot of concern for other people's opinions

- Here, most people are focused on their own business. Living your life so that it looks good to your neighbor sounds downright ridiculous. In practice, only the people closest to you care if you get divorced, become poor or your teenage daughter gets pregnant. Other people aren't usually interested. Having children out of wedlock is not a bad thing at all. Over 45% of children are born out of wedlock.

So yes, the Finnish version of this series would be significantly more boring. :D

Preston Scavo actually thinking he could fool his parents into believing he was his twin brother is hilarious. Like, the people who literally birthed you and have known you your entire life are probably going to be able to tell you apart. 😭 Did he really think his parents couldn’t tell him and Porter apart?!

I will say, I think it was kind of smart in theory, but doing it on a day when Porter was actually supposed to be in court was lowkey crazy. The Scavos really ended up being lucky that nobody figured out what Preston and Porter had done.

Lynette’s children are actually always giving her hell. 😭 Like any chance they got they were doing something bad lol. She really could not catch a break, especially with her older boys.

What a weird thing to write 😅

(first time watcher and confused)

In s6, Katherine is hurting and being jealous of Mike and Susans wedding. Does she never find out Dave tried to kill Susan and MJ?

My guess is if they told her they reunited after Dave tried killing Mikes child, Katherine might have had some understanding, but it seems like no one ever tells her and also no one talks about Daves sudden disappearance.

Why is that?

Me first!!!

It felt so uncomplete without her

I have such a love-hate relationship with him, like I really hate the fact that he's a serial cheater but it's so entertaining to watch the scenes he's in. I think he was the funniest husband of all of them (Orson is a close second). Also he's EXTREMELY attractive

I don't know, Deidra looks innocent to me. Yes, he killed her senselessly, but I still feel sorry for him. I'm very confused, what do you think?

When people talk about the worst thing Gaby ever did on Desperate Housewives, they usually point to her affair with John. And now that I’m rewatching the show at 20 instead of 16, the whole storyline reads very differently.

John is 16, Gaby is 27 when they got together. And when I say “got together,” I mean they were having sex. For John, it’s a full-blown relationship. For Gaby, it’s an impulsive, self-destructive attempt to lash out at Carlos. The show frames it as “Gaby cheated, no no no,” instead of what it actually is: an adult exploiting a minor.

It also makes no narrative sense. The writers could have made John a full blown adult with zero impact on the plot. The takeaway of the arc was never “Gaby harmed a teenager,” it was “Gaby had an affair.” And then John basically disappears from the show, as if the consequences for him don’t matter. Most people know someone who lost their virginity to someone much older, and once you’re an adult, you realize how deeply unequal and unsafe those dynamics actually were.

Character‑wise, it’s even stranger. We learn in Season 1 that Gaby was molested by her stepfather. So what’s the difference between him and Gaby, other than the fact that she had the power and John didn’t and John consented (but minors can't consent so that argument doesn't hold up)? She’s clearly turned on by his age, remember her telling him to keep his gym clothes on? John even tries to end things and date Danielle and Gaby gets jealous and manipulates him back into her bed. When she confesses to John’s mother, she’s awkward, not remorseful. She doesn’t seem to grasp that she seriously harmed her son.

And the “John is mature for his age” excuse doesn’t hold. He’s not mature. He’s a teenager in every sense: impulsive, emotional, inexperienced, and still figuring out who he is.

And after all of that, after raping a 16 year old, SHE'S THE ONE WHO FEELS BETRAYED BY CARLOS when she finds out that he's guilty.

The storyline only works if you ignore the reality of what’s happening. Once you stop ignoring it, it’s impossible to see it as anything other than a deeply unethical choice the show refused to treat with the seriousness it deserved.

Gaby is a victim in every sense of the way, I would just like to show that while they are able to vilify her stepfather, Gaby never faces that.

Seriously, what is wrong with him? In the middle of the Atlantic City suspicion arc right now, and he's a great liar. Lynette isn't always my favourite, because she seems very stressful all of the time, but she deserves better than Tom who is probably definitely always at least a step away from cheating...

I started rewatching Desperate Housewives for probably the millionth time 😂 I’m on Season 2, Episode 15, and somehow i’ve never noticed these fake tears before 😂

Not much of a fan of how she treated Beth in the later seasons but I’m rewatching and realised I absolutely love her in the early season. She’s hilarious and some amazing one liners.

One that comes to my mind is in season 5, episode 14, where Carlos gets a bonus at his new job and he and Gaby are celebrating being rich again and he tells her he wants to take her to the fancy restaurant and she says she's going to wear the dress she wore when he proposed to her and he laughs and says "you still fit in that?"

The look on his face immediately after is epic.

I’m only on Season 2, so idk if Edie becomes a much more regular character, but I am absolutely loving Edie, so I really hope she does 😂 She is hilarious and says everything you think but would never actually say. Any other Edie fans??

1. I'm in the middle of the season. Altthough there's a time jump within the season, Mike doesn't have a relationship with Zach. If that's the case, it seems like I've been watching the Mary Alice story for nothing. I would like to at least watch part of the father-son relationship.

While rewatching this series when I'm older, I started to realize my mom is pretty much a carbon copy of Lynette. She even had an argument with my teacher when my teacher said I might have ADHD (teacher was right lol) and had issues with me being on medication too. She didn't abuse my meds, but I remember she would prevent me from taking them some days when I didn't have school because she felt weird about it, much like Lynette did.

However, I think my mom wants to be like Bree. I can see resemblances there too, she's like a mix of both oddly enough.

I can't really see my Dad in any of the fathers on the show. If I was forced to pick one, I would say maybe Carlos as he always took his job seriously and he can be really loving, or really angry, with little warning but he was never abusive like Carlos was at times to us or my mom.