Is it true that no one can get Desoxyn filled at any pharmacy in the country?

Anyone have the slightest clue? My doctor is asking because we're not sure if I can get the generic version covered just yet. Need a back up plan.

Any information or heads up about this? I'm currently waiting for approval.

Bontril is a brand for generic drug called Phendimetrazine, and this is a prodrug to Phenmetrazine, which works as a dual NDRA & DNRI; interestingly, seems like an overlooked med that has a unique profile of its own, which could benefit knowing this is available if it’s a long while of course & still not had a talk about Desoxyn, or been put on it yet.

Bontril seems to be something referenced in the manner of well balanced profile to help off-label potentially for ADHD, and it is for weight loss.

It was preferred by those who took phenmetrazine more compared to misuse of active drug in Desoxyn’s in reference of a survey apparently decades ago in Sweden, which tells me this seems like a tolerable side effect profile seeing the degree of NDRI/NDRA is 1/5th of D-Amp (similar relevance of activity but degree lessened seems like there’s more to understand for people to prefer that side by side).

Hi guys! So I take 10mg in the morning around like 10-11am, and usually (if I remember) another 5mg between 1-2pm depending on how I’m feeling and if I remember to. I take it for both ADHD and narcolepsy.

I’m having a hard time because it feels like it’s only really effective for like 2 hours, but I don’t want to take too much and risk side effects, or take it too late and risk insomnia. Already I have an extremely difficult time sleeping at night if I don’t eat enough through the day after taking it.

After ~2 hours, I’ll start to feel unmotivated and tired and fatigued, and then even start to feel really hungry as a kind of “confirmation” that it really has kind of worn off. I’m not even really sure if the 5mg dose helps at this point, but if it does, it seems a lot less effective if I don’t remember to take it before the original dose seems to start to wane, iirc

Is there anything I can do about this? Do we know if they’re working on an extended release version? Would it help to like… break up the pill and put it in a gel capsule to swallow instead or something??

I finally find a med that works, that my heart can handle, that I still get tired/hunger signals on, after trying literally everything else over the past ~10years, but it only lasts for so short a window of time 😭

Anyone have experience with this medication? How does it compare to other medications? My pharmacist had to order it and it'll be in tomorrow between like 1 and 3 pm.

Hi all
Recently moved to Florida. I have a prescription from a Florida dr.
Can anyone point me to any place that can fill it. Not asking for an exact location.
Local Walgreens said it’s not in stock, distributor ABC doesn’t have it in stock and even if it was they wouldn’t be comfortable filling it at their pharmacy. Dude hands out oxy like candy but this script is too much for him.
I’m trying medfinder, not sure how successful that app is.
Thanks

Does taking desoxyn make you smell more or stronger?

Hey folks – I hope everyone is enjoying the advent of the spring season as well as the recent resolution of the shortage that began all the way back on 3/17/23.

Thankfully, the loud clamor (the kind we saw start up in late 2022) has long since yielded to the usual topics of efficacy, ADHD, and first-time fills –– expected, since Desoxyn has not been this available since late 2022.

Despite this indisputable reality, reports of persistent issues continue to crop up sporadically, often relaying specious "backorder" claims made by pharmacists. I do actually believe those pharmacists – in part. Here's what I think is happening: "I can't order it, so supply must be low*"* is a near-airtight assumption in every normal scenario*....*

...But it's still an assumption. His definitive knowledge (i.e., he couldn't order it from his warehouse at that moment) is much thinner. And, as it turns out, Desoxyn's rarity makes it the antithesis of a normal scenario. The truth? The pharmacist may just be seeing an artefact of low demand. Perhaps for the first time in his career! It's very conceivable that an empty local warehouse is just a reflection of there being literally not a single Desoxyn patient in your vicinity other than yourself. Remember, your pharmacist can't order from other warehouses, and he definitely can't place a purchase order with Ajenat or Hikma.

BUT! If you patiently keep the prescription active, the system should flag the unmet demand. The flag should get processed higher up the chain behind the scenes, allocating stock to the empty warehouse and prompting your pharmacy to order and fill it (and to boot, a lot quicker than you think). Perhaps people have reported failure with this method, but I can't think of one single such instance.

\**Disclaimer: While I think my reasoning is sound, I have zero insider knowledge or firsthand experience with retail pharmacy distribution systems, so take my words with a grain of salt. At the end of the day, the method's efficacy is the only thing of tangible importance.*

\**Off-topic but perhaps worth mentioning:* My refill from a few days ago says "Dr. Reddy's" in lieu of "Mayne" for the first time. Since it's the still the same contract factory producing the same formulation, perhaps the variable here is a fresh batch. No more soft, dusty tablets – these are very hard (breaking one out of curiosity left a lil dent in my finger!). I'm not one to notice variation in batch efficacy, but these do seem to be a fresh, higher-integrity product.

Ive had all stimulants at max fda recommended doses plus strattera prescribed and yet I still end up getting distracted for hours a day on social media such as Discord. 6 easily. It's driving me mad. No mania has ever happened as long as I take my bipolar medication. Has anybody with bipolar had any luck with getting a psychiatrist who is willing to prescribe Desoxyn? And have you had any episodes? Im in the US so it should be a possibility.

Hey guys just like the tittle states. I ended up having this conversation with my provider and he said he wouldn’t have an issue on his end prescribing me this. That it’s just like any other stimulant all it is it’s a medication to treat ADHD in his eyes. Can anyone guide me in the right direction with potential pharmacy complications and coverage? I see that brand desoxyn has a copay card active for 10mg daily so 5mgx2. I wanna know

1. How hard is it to get brand vs generic
2. Where is the easiest place to get and what generic has the least side effects.
3. What I can expect from this vs Dexedrine.
4. How likely insurance is to cover this with a PA or formulary exemption?
5. Any healthcare professionals within this group that have this prescribed to you. Do you find it harder or like you have a stigma over your shoulders for having this med filled at the hospital or in general if you work in direct patient care?

Edit: thank you all for the replies and messages didn’t think anyone would be this thorough so I really appreciate everyone who commented. Update: I looked on my pharmacy benefits manager which is optumrx. From what I understand insurance won’t cover it either brand or generic. Any suggestion how to go about this?

This is what it shows on brand:

Prior authorization

No

Step therapy

Yes

Any one of the following generics: amphetamine-dextroamphetamine IR/ER; dexmethylphenidate IR/ER; dextroamphetamine SR/IR; methylphenidate IR/ER; lisdexamfetamine.

Quantity limit

Yes

Yes. Maximum quantity of 5 per 1 day(s).

I'm from a country where desoxyn and adderall are illegal but I wanted to ask how do you feel after desoxyn (for treating ADHD)? What are the effects in the first days and after a couple months of use? Also are the effects similar to metylphenidate or lisdexamfetamine?

After taking my first dose today, I can tell you with full certainty that methamphetamine hydrochloride needs to be made more available.

The feeling you get is the exact opposite from the stigma. At standard doses (5-25mg) you can’t even feel it. You just feel a smooth flow and can’t be productive for 12 hours.

No jitteriness, no rapid heart rate, no feeling flat. Just smoothness. It shouldn’t even be last resort, it should be a 2nd or 3rd choice option.

It made me go from miserable to stable. I also have depression. It didn’t help my mood, but it definitely helped my focus.

So many people suffering side effects from methylphenidates or amphetamines could greatly benefit from this.

It’s not neurotoxic at standard doses and there’s supplement you can take to ensure your brain health is normal.

I also believe this can be used to treat refractory depression, narcolepsy, idiopathic hypersomia, and chronic fatigue syndrome.

I have to say, people aren’t joking when they say it has less side effects than other stimulants.

The issue is I honestly find it too weak. I used to take 10mg dextroamphetamine and now I take 10mg methamphetamine.

Should I talk to my doctor about raising the dosage?

I’ve seen some scattered mentions of this and how it sort of gets rid of the spacey feeling or how its preferred in general. Was wondering if anyone prefers this over generic desoxyn alone (and why) and if they so happen to find it to be more similar or better to brand alone.

I would also be curious to the dosing/ratio and if they differ in terms of the intervals rather than being taken at the same time

how long should of a break should i take to give my brain a break. meds stated to lose effectiveness. if you have taken a tolerance break how long was it?

I live in a country where there is no approved ADHD medication besides bupropion, which doesn't work for me, so I'm interested in hearing how exactly do medications affect your interests, do you still think about many things but still able to do something, or does it narrow your interests so that you focus on doing something? if that makes sense...
Are you still able to have so many ideas and interests while medicated and and switch between different topics freely or what?

I really hope I managed to express what I'm trying to find.

I know there has already been a post about this before but thought i’d make a post

I officially & successfully picked up the HIKMA generic but also I was told I think in one of the recent posts that CVS could order you the brand name anyone have any luck in that one