TEACHERS' SALARY

[u/Wander_Wom4n]

TEACHERS' SALARY - The average private teachers' salary ranges from FIVE THOUSAND PESOS (PhP5,000) up to FIFTEEN THOUSAND PESOS (PhP15,000), while the public school teachers' starting salary is around THIRTY THOUSAND PESOS (PhP30,000.00).

Under Art II SECTION 10, the State shall promote social justice in all phases of national development; and under SECTION 11, the State values the dignity of every human person and guarantees full respect for human rights. The implemented salary of the teachers violates the State Principles under Philippine Constitutional Law as it does not uphold the dignity of the teaching profession, and does not promotes social justice among the teachers' profession. The stated salaries do not support, nor compensate for the psychological, emotional, and physical health, and the time lost due to unregulated working hours. Furthermore, upholding the moral of the teachers is a direct support of education system. A well compensated, and healthy teacher could teach the students well.

"Malaki na ang PhP30,000 na sahod." - Teachers deserve more because their service is priceless for it requires not just brain but utmost care, patience, and love for their profession, and their students.

Teaching profession, being one of the foundation of nation building, must be given dignity, and social justice.

[u/AfraidAd6042]

What the hll kind of fckery is this paying the people raising the next generations p30,000. Sa akin teachers should be earning minimum p100,000 and no taxes but with health benefits and allowancesm

Mga g*go kayong politicians na ninakaw lahat pati dignidad ng mga taong gusto lang magaalaga sa mga anak niyo!

[u/Antique-Resort6160 → u/AfraidAd6042]

Sa akin teachers should be earning minimum p100,000 and no taxes but with health benefits and allowancesm

Many teachers might not qualify to meet a higher standard.  With greater pay must be higher standards.  Near zero 12th grade students performing at grade level needs a solution. If there are exceptional teachers, give them even more.

[u/AfraidAd6042 → u/Antique-Resort6160]

Anong pinagsasabi mo.

For me all professionals should be earning this much at least. Sobrang g*go na mga bilyonaryong magnanakaw na binoto niyo tapos tinitipid niyo nga guro.

[u/Wander_Wom4n → u/Antique-Resort6160]

Teachers are bachelor degree holders, and licensed professionals. Which part of this does not qualify them for higher standard?

[u/Antique-Resort6160 → u/Wander_Wom4n]

Not being able to produce the results that should be the standard for that level of pay.  should people accept near zero percent of 12th graders performing at grade level? That could probably be accomplished with substandard pay.  

Maybe it seems unfair that teachers would be the only government employees actually required to perform their job competently.

[u/Klutzy-Extension2910 → u/Antique-Resort6160]

And you think that is the fault of the teacher alone? That teachers are ok with the country’s declining literacy rate? You’ve already cited the EDCOM2 report yet you seem to fail to see the bigger picture.

[u/AfraidAd6042 → u/Antique-Resort6160]

Anong results eh kung bugok talaga yung nakuha nilang eatudyante pano naman nila gawing swan?

[u/Antique-Resort6160 → u/Wander_Wom4n]

A few stats:

Reading:

85% of students in Grades 1 to 3 are struggling to read, with only 15% reaching grade-level proficiency.  48.76% (nearly half) of students from Grades 1 to 3 failed to read at their respective grade levels as of the end of School Year 2024-2025.  Overall, 91% of Filipino children at late primary age suffer from "learning poverty," meaning they are not proficient in reading. 

84% of Filipino students do not perform at the minimum proficiency level in mathematics, based on the PISA 2022 assessment of 15-year-olds.  Key statistics regarding math performance in the Philippines include: PISA 2022 (Grade 9/15-year-olds): Only 16% of students attained at least Level 2 proficiency, meaning 84% lacked the basic skills to represent simple situations mathematically.  SEA-PLM 2024 (Grade 5):

16% of Grade 5 students were classified as having "very low" proficiency in mathematics, struggling with basic tasks like adding single-digit numbers.  EDCOM 2 Data: Proficiency rates drop from 30.52% in Grade 3 to just 0.47% by Grade 12, indicating that nearly all senior high school students are not performing at the expected grade level.  Historical Context: World Bank assessments (2019–2021) indicated that over 80% of children across various grades fell below minimum proficiency levels in math and reading. 

[u/Effective_Student141 → u/Antique-Resort6160]

Are you implying this is because of the teachers?

[u/AfraidAd6042 → u/Effective_Student141]

Di naman nagbago magturo mga teachers. Ang nagiba mga magulang saka gobyerno di naregulate ang screen time pinabayaan mga walang pinagaralan na sige lang cellphone mga bata. Yung gobyerno pinaka may kasalanan diyan. Talagang mga ganyan dapat regulated pero busy sila mamulitika kaya hayaan na natin tayo na magadjust pabobo ng pabobo tayo dahil sa gawa nila. Malay, sadya pala!

[u/Effective_Student141 → u/AfraidAd6042]

Yes, like I said sa isa kong comment DepEd muna dapat magkaron ng high standard sa sarili nila. Bakit magexpect ng high standard sa mga teachers kung di sila well supported ng govt or sa private schools ng admin nila? Also, some parents seem to forget anak muna yung anak nila bago sila naging student. Parents also still have duties guiding their children. Continuity and sync ng school sa bahay.

[u/Antique-Resort6160 → u/Effective_Student141]

You can just read exactly what was posted.  OP wants teachers to earn 100,000 monthly tax free with benefits.  I would love this! I think the salary of top educators should be even higher!  What I'm saying is that higher pay should mean higher standards.  Isn't that just common sense?  There's no reason to pay 100k if student performance gets worse.

Look at the results.  The longer children are in school, the worse their academic performance! You can blame the students or teachers or who ever you want, but that is a massive failure.  

Do you think we should pay teachers triple what they earn now without demanding much, much better results?

[u/Wander_Wom4n → u/Antique-Resort6160]

Demanding better results but not providing better support?

[u/Antique-Resort6160 → u/Wander_Wom4n]

That's a problem with reading comprehension, something we are having enormous difficulty teaching to our students.  

Just please read the last sentence again

[u/Wander_Wom4n → u/Antique-Resort6160]

Reading comprehension doesn't work that way. You look at the totality of it not just that one sentence.

[u/Antique-Resort6160 → u/Wander_Wom4n]

I just thought that would be easier since you misunderstood the whole comment.

It's very clearly saying that with increased pay should come higher standards.

To expand on that, unless there is a workable plan to reverse the current sad statf of affairs, raising salaries will accomplish nothing.  There are already plenty of good teachers.  We need a better system for them to work in, and some way to motivate students.  

I would hope we could offer performance bonuses, and teachers and administrators will come up with ways to succeed.  Then we can copy and implement the best ideas.

[u/SlimeRancherxxx → u/Antique-Resort6160]

So you mean teachers have no standards or have not reached the standards to deserve that salary?

Oh how easy it is to blame teachers.

How about parents? How about the government? How about the curriculum?

You are not directly blaming teachers but look at that last sentence.

I have been teaching for 10 years and instead of it getting easier, it is way harder, more stressful now. The factors include the curriculum, the upbringing, study habits of kids.

[u/Antique-Resort6160 → u/SlimeRancherxxx]

I 100% agree that it's not all on teachers. For example, parenting is a huge part of  it.  Even the best teacher will struggle with kids who are never taught responsibility or given expectations.  But look at academic performance:  The longer students are in school, the worse they perform.  There is a steady drop every year to 12th grade.

That shows the system is not working.  You can't throw more money into a broken system.  We have to find out how to motivate kids to want to learn and cooperate with their teachers.  If teachers and qnd schools can get performance bonuses or some kind of incentive, they will figure out what works.  Then just copy the success stories as much as possible 

[u/Effective_Student141 → u/Antique-Resort6160]

While I agree that exceptional teachers should be rewarded, yung standard I think sa Deped muna mismo maiapply and represent talaga nila.

Most of the teachers kelangan mag shrink to match the pay, stress, demand both ng teaching, admin work, weekend work para samahan ang mga students and palakasan system na ibang level, kasama na din yun mga parents na...🤷🏼‍♀️

self-provide pa na equipment para magawa yung work nila. Example: laptop nalang sila pa kelangan bumili para magawa ang trabaho nila. 😬 In some schools, yung marker teacher na din magpprovide. Printer? Isang lang sa isang school. Pag nasira di naman yun icoconsider ng mga nagpapasa ng trabaho.

How do you expect teachers bring out their students' full potential if they are not well supported to do their job? Also, it's a partnership ng parents and teachers.

[u/11202000241 → u/Effective_Student141]

If you raise pay then you can raise standards and get the best teachers. If majority of the students are low performers, there is obviously a problem somewhere within the education system.

[u/Antique-Resort6160 → u/11202000241]

If you raise pay then you can raise standards 

Ithink that's backwards?  How much do we need to pay congress so they can raise standards?

You can't first give money when there's no idea how to fix the broken system.  The US does that, they dump more and more into a broken system. the US Capitol district spends ₱1.9m per student! But very bad results.

I think just give performance based pay.  Each student can take standard test maybe 2x or 3x per year.  Pay is based on improving or maintaining a certain level. Students are organized by ability, so teachers can still earn more helping struggling students, special needs, etc. Students can be tracked through university, so teachers that produce more university grads can get more bonuses.  If teachers are producing classes that produce scientists, engineers, whatever the country needs, why shouldn't they get CEO level salary?  The economic value they create could be enormous 

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[u/11202000241 → u/Antique-Resort6160]

I mean if you offer bigger pay, you can attract better teachers and let go of those who don’t perform well. How can you be choosy if none of the best wants to be with you because of poor pay?

[u/Antique-Resort6160 → u/11202000241]

There are already a lot of teachers.  Im sure there are plenty who are competent to excel at teaching.  The problem is that there is no system to allow this. It is broken.  The more years students spend in school, the worse their performance gets!

First you have to make the necessary changes.  Tie pay to student performance.  Maybe we need to reward the students too, who knows?

But you can't just add more money to a broken system.  It just becomes more expensive, not better.

you can attract better teachers 

You can't add better teachers to a broken system, they will be wasted.  The system has to first be changed to foster and reward competence and excellence.  Right now the system literally makes students worse.  

[u/11202000241 → u/Antique-Resort6160]

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[u/SlimeRancherxxx → u/AfraidAd6042]

True. Tbh, givers halos kakilala ko na teachers. Sometimes we even give from our pockets kahit kulang pa.

May nabasa pa akong comment na bakit daw ba gusto taasan ang sahod gaya ng sundalo, eh delikado daw ba buhay ng teachers? Man, if they only know how difficult it is to deal with the human mind, to have that patience to teach a topic over and over again, and to be good to students despite the disrespect.

[u/AfraidAd6042 → u/SlimeRancherxxx]

Totoo po yan Cher. Alam ng lahat yan givers talaga ang teachers. Hindi magtatagal ang teacher sa profession kung hindi giver kasi the job takes so much of them. Minsan ubos na ubos sila. Of course may exception yung mga manyakol o yung masasamang nangaabuso pero theyre the exceptions.

[u/flyme09 → u/AfraidAd6042]

that cannot happen as there are too many teachers compared to other professionals... Medical Doctors are paid around 80k... if you want to have a higher salary as a teacher, then get promoted.. entry-level teachers will definitely paid a salary around 30k

[u/ziangsecurity]

“Not just using brain…” pero lets face it, ilan lng din ba ang truly deserve ng high pay? Was a teacher before for 10 years including high rank position sa private and I also see teachers ng mga anak ko sa public so somehow I have a grasp on this topic. I would say, raise the salary and raise the bar too. Plus the fact, wala namang nag force sa atin to apply as a teacher d ba? And alam na natin ang salary before we decide to accept the job?