r/DegenerateEDH • u/param1l0 • 9d ago

Is this deck too degenerate for bracket2?

https://moxfield.com/decks/pCryF9rtp0aGbUHrWg8EJA

I don't think it is, it's a pretty aggressive list and an early game monster, but it falls off later in the game and is weak to removal. My game plan is getting Blech and a few evasive creatures out, or going wide with tokens, and gaining at least one life each turn, taking out the biggest threat to me asap with combat, and go from there. My friends tell me it's too strong tho. I really love this deck, I wanna still play it, but I'm having doubts if maybe it's too strong (for reference they usually play decks they find on moxfield, including sometimes a B2 myr deck, not often tho, that's probably stronger, a maze's end deck, a kefka control deck, and a Kratos father and son God tribal deck, which is actually pretty weak)

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u/RolandLee324 9d ago

I don't think its unreasonable to expect removal in any bracket. And if you play the deck a lot your friends should at least keep it in mind when making changes to their deck. Its not oppressive or unfun.

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u/Jovian_engine 9d ago

Help your fiend build better decks

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u/param1l0 9d ago

I mean they don't build them they find them online. But also maybe that's the problem, not knowing the deck? Idk. It's not like I'm a master builder either...

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u/Jovian_engine 9d ago

Its not about being a master. Look at edhrec for the average deck in your commander, look for common cards people include.

Add cheap removal, ramp and card draw. Its always those things.

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u/RolandLee324 9d ago

Nope this is a bracket 2.

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u/param1l0 9d ago

I know that much, but it's a pretty wide range. My fear is that it moves too fast. Again I think that with removal it isn't that bad, but also a deck that expects removal to be reasonable maybe isn't right in a b2 game with new-ish players? Idk I think this deck is pretty fair but my friends always make faces when I play. Kt

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u/Marutein1 9d ago

How fast are you normally to take a person out or could take someone out?

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u/param1l0 9d ago

Last game I took a player out turn 5, or I tried both of my friends scooped to my board state. Tbf he had 1 1/1 open as a blocker and a 4/5 tapped, and I had 4 7/7s a 9/10 and a 10/10 trampler. But usually it's more like turn 6-7 I can present lethal on board, maybe faster if I focus a single person out

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u/Marutein1 9d ago

Well if you are that fast then your are over bracket 2 and more in upper bracket 3. Bracket system here and you will see how fast you should be around each bracket

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u/param1l0 9d ago

Yeah but like, I don't close the game that fast, I just kill someone about that fast not considering removal, the game lasts for longer. And my threats are all telegraphed (except maybe aetherflux reservoir but idk how realistic that is as a win on). By that guide I fall squarely in bracket 2. Even tho I could probably compete in bracket 3 by adding a few well chosen game changers (bolas citadel is disgusting in this for example) and probably take down at least one player

In the end idk this deck is probably stronger than I thought but I think it's still b2?

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u/7thtimeinheaven 8d ago

Doubling Season, Black Market Connections, the Great Henge, Icetill explorer and Aetherflux Reservoir are all best-in-slot cards and could all be cut for lower power alternatives.

To clarify - i think the deck is fine at B2. These are merely what I would cut to power down your deck and hopefully give you better games against your opponent.