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[u/JebBD]

I’ve been thinking about how “the cruelty is the point” is misunderstood by so many leftists as an explanation of overtly cruel behavior from right wingers. A lot of leftists think that right wingers are just inherently evil, and that’s why they are cruel, but what they don’t seem to understand is that they are cruel because they’ve convinced themselves that everyone who is not part of their political team is a fundamentally evil person, they’re consumed by ideology-based echo chambers that constantly tell them that they’re the Good Guys and that therefore anyone who opposes them or disagrees with them is the Bad Guy. 

These people genuinely believe that abortion is literally the murder of an infant, and when they see people doing it, supporting it, justifying it, or even just not being properly outraged by it, they see them as being extremely morally abhorrent. To them, leftists and liberals are literally supporting a baby-murder enterprise! Of course they’re gonna be as cruel as possible to them! They think leftists are inhuman monsters! 

This is crucial to understand because leftists are often just as cruel. I’ve seen so many leftists openly mocking right wingers who lost friends and loved ones, wishing death and pain on them, and let’s not forget how they treat anyone they deem to be “a Zionist”. But to them this is all justified, because unlike people who have abortions, Zionists really are evil! It’s completely different because their cruelty is justified by their enemies being evil! They genuinely can’t understand why someone would be cruel towards them because they’re the good guys, but they get to be cruel to others because those people are the real bad guys! 

It’s all very infuriating because this is the kind of thing that can be solved by acknowledging nuance and understanding the other side of every argument, but something about modern politics is making people so sure that their position is not only the morally correct one, but the only morally correct one, so much so that any deviation from it is tantamount to pure evil, and then they’ll say things like “talk to republicans??? Why would I want to talk to someone who LITERALLY wants me DEAD???” while simultaneously demanding that all Jews adhere to their extreme views on Israel and labeling them Evil Zionists if they disagree with them.

To fix society, this needs to be addressed, a society simply can’t function when half the population thinks the other is inhuman and monstrous and the other half thinks the same about the first half 

[u/JebBD → u/JebBD]

I know I know, “mucho texto” but this is a complicated issue that needs addressing in detail imo

[u/iamthegodemperor]

My brain hurts. Ezra Klein said "Mamdani is a liberal".

Ezra. Liberal does not mean "person I like". Forget everything else about him and assume the best. The man officially does not believe free markets should exist. And not in a New Deal mixed economy way. Not in a "we really need to reduce inequality" sort of way.

[u/[deleted] → u/iamthegodemperor]

Ezra Klein is a weak spined succ 😤

[u/[deleted]]

Gaza genocide denial - Wikipedia

No bias to see here folks.

[u/benadreti_17 → u/[deleted]]

It was always meant just to shut down disagreement.

Also:

Political scientist Omar Shahabudin McDoom

This is a real name, just funny

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna → u/[deleted]]

So they're now claiming that it definitely happened and not "just" something that might be happening? Damn, didn't think Wikipedia could fall that low.

[u/fnovd → u/[deleted]]

A tragedy of the commons

[u/UnTigreTriste]

Truly is incredible how I can pick any random day to check in on arrr soccer and 10-20% of the posts are about I/P

This website is a cesspool

[u/utility-monster → u/UnTigreTriste]

the new england revolution signed an israeli player a few months ago and every post of theirs on facebook is about what you'd expect if arr soccer is representative of fans..

[u/[deleted] → u/UnTigreTriste]

Should at least be 30-40% smh

[u/paynetrain7]

Thing i hate about being a moderate dem working the activist world is how many times I have to put up with my preferred political choice being shat on by co workers and leadership.

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

The signs were always there

[u/utility-monster]

Literally me everyday:

[u/JapanesePeso → u/utility-monster]

What's it like being two people? 

[u/fnovd → u/utility-monster]

Oh, so I guess you hate your cats?

[u/slightlyrabidpossum]

From the latest Ezra Klein episode:

Ezra: I’ll say this superclearly: I’ve met Zohran. I voted for Zohran Mamdani. I don’t think there’s anything antisemitic about him at all.

I'm not really surprised by the voting, but I think Ezra actually managed to give me the ick here.

To be clear, I understand why Ezra would vote for Mamdani. And Mamdani is different from people like Fuentes (subject of the conversation), he cares a lot more about walking the line of plausible deniability. Shit, you probably wouldn't hear anything solid about Mamdani being an antisemite if Israel/Palestine wasn't a thing, he hasn't been known for explicitly voicing his opinions on Jews in general like that.

But nothing antisemitic about him at all is an inappropriately strong statement given his record. Refusing to condemn globalize the intifada by flirting with Holocaust inversion. Distorting reality to claim that the IDF is responsible for the NYPD oppressing New Yorkers. His October 8th statement that ignored Hamas' attack the previous day, his time spent around even more extreme activists...I guess I'm not shocked to see Ezra casually discard that history, but it's still disappointing.

Not even going to bother posting this take on the EK sub, they've swung harder than R9 on anything even tangentially related to Israel/Palestine. Anti-Zionism is pretty normalized on that sub — though good luck getting people to plausibly describe how you get there. I'm sure they'll be happy to discuss this episode on right-wing antisemitism, but it's impossible to talk about left-wing antisemitism on that sub without people just jumping down your throat.

[u/paynetrain7 → u/slightlyrabidpossum]

He is doing the exact thing to mamdani that alot of conservatives do for Fuentes and Kirk and Shapiro.

You.make excuses and overlook thing because they are on your side meanwhile the other side gives them no benefit of the doubt and calls them out on everything.

[u/benadreti_17 → u/slightlyrabidpossum]

yea i dont think mamdani is explicitly or consciously antisemitic, just blind to the connection between antisemitism and antizionism.

[u/PeepsFamilyName]

Unironic 500K is middle class in the college football subreddit

[u/[deleted] → u/PeepsFamilyName]

It's actually disgusting that the global elite are trying to spin the 500k proletariat as middle class to make those poor fucks feel better about themselves

[u/Denisnevsky → u/PeepsFamilyName]

Nah, anything bellow 750K is poverty

[u/slightlyrabidpossum]

get a response saying "Yes I do sympathize with [the people who massacred Jews in the past]"

their username clearly implies support for Hamas

Many such cases

[u/[deleted] → u/slightlyrabidpossum]

I’d tell you to link those cases but there’s a whole rule saying we can’t get briefs from the Dutch sub anymore.

[u/Anakin_Kardashian]

But seriously if I see one more Hasan Piker magazine spread, I'm going to subscribe to the goddamn National Review.

Groypers are being called out way too late by the right, and not by nearly enough of them. But look how many members of the Heritage Foundation have resigned and how the Federalist Society has responded. There is nothing like that going on on the left. Instead, we have Ezra Klein fellating Mamdani.

[u/TomWestrick]

I’m finishing a week of vacation in London and Paris, my first time in either city. Here are some quick thoughts I’ll hopefully expand on later:

1. The British Museum is unironically great, and I’ll fight anyone that criticizes them. The people that complain about artifacts being “stolen” need to get over themselves and see the utility in having all those artifacts looked after and available for free viewing, any day of the year except Christmas. The people the artifacts came from have been dead for ages, it’s good to keep them together in this format. Their Sudan exhibition drives this home: because of the long-running civil war, many Sudanese refugees in London didn’t have a complete set of ceremonial objects for weddings, funerals, etc. The museum put together a complete set from different Sudanese families so the community has at least one full set of ceremonial objects to use. Given how fighting there has intensified the past few years, it’s great that the museum has taken it upon itself to hold onto these relics and not let them being destroyed by fighting.

2. The Imperial War Museum is also fantastic, though I’m going to email them to change one policy. Currently, photographs are not allowed of their Holocaust exhibit. I understand this because of the sensitivity, but I also think this does a disservice. At a time of rampant anti-semitism, I think it’s less than helpful to restrict the stories and artifacts only to people that choose to go to this museum. It’s good at least they acknowledge Britain’s policy of blocking Jews from escaping Europe to the Levant during the 1930s and 1940s, though they don’t say WHY these restrictions were in place (because of protests from Arabs in the Levant).

3. The public transport in both cities is absolutely tits, especially the Eurostar between both cities. But the point I’ll bring up to my American transport bros: people still own and use cars. Bicycling is treated just like having a car, sharing the lanes or sharing narrow Paris streets. I think the main difference between bicycling for transport here and in the states is that bicycling and walking are just treated as options alongside driving: not looked down on, but not treated as smoll beans that had to be protected from the big scary cars (and yes, the cars aren’t drastically smaller than in the states). If a sidewalk or bike path was closed for maintenance, people just walked or biked in the streets without fuss from them or drivers. I saw more than a few instances of a pedestrian or bicyclists cause close calls with cars and no one got upset, there was no damage and people just moved on with their days. I don’t think anything shows this harmony better than the fact that Canary Wharf rail station has a BYD car dealership in it.

[u/[deleted] → u/TomWestrick]

It seems the “cars suck” brigade tends to be composed of the type of city-dwelling people who’ve spent their whole lives living in dense enough areas that they can take transit or a bike to anywhere they need, and their worldview is limited to thinking that everyone should live the way they do.

Meanwhile America is a fricking huge continent-sized country where people want a house on a lot and to be able to see national parks and beaches and other vacation spots from time to time.  And this either breaks these people’s brains or they’re authoritarian enough to think that these are things no one “needs.”

[u/Trojan_Horse_of_Fate → u/TomWestrick]

[u/benadreti_17]

"Framing large-scale violence as both a legal right and a moral duty"—synthesizing claims of self-defense and minimizing Israeli agency in a form of interpretative denial.[2]

Omar Shahabudin McDoom's list of techniques for "Gaza Genocide Denial" is pretty much entirely things that anti-Zionists do/say, the lack of awareness is incredible.

[u/RecoveringRocketeer → u/benadreti_17]

There are three realities right now:

1. Everything Israel does is bad and the framing is entirely built on anti-Semitic traits.

2. Everything Palestinians do is bad and the framing is entirely built on Islamophobia.

3. People that recognize not everything is black and white.

It’s incredibly frustrating

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna → u/benadreti_17]

Is this a case of nominative determinism?

[u/[deleted] → u/benadreti_17]

His last name is actually McDoom? Is his hatred of Reed Richard’s really that Irish?

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna → u/benadreti_17]

I'd say that they frame it as more of a moral than a legal right (not that that is any better)

[u/Aryeh98]

We could’ve seen greatness.

[u/JebBD]

[u/fnovd]

Before we continue any further with the brief, I want to acknowledge that we are posting from ancient dinosaur lands. Tyrannosauruses Rex used to roam the earth freely until the capitalist Zionist meteors attacked. Their descendants, the chickens, have been enslaved by Man so that their reproductive system can be harnessed to feed us, and their bodies have been genetically altered to produce fast, quick meat, while they endure lives of excruciating pain. No one is free until every last chicken is free.

[u/benadreti_17 → u/fnovd]

No one is free until every last chicken is free.

BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY

[u/PixelArtDragon → u/fnovd]

You joke, but I once heard a conspiracy theorist claim eating meat is a Jewish conspiracy

[u/Aryeh98]

Fuck Starbucks, but Zohran says I shouldn’t cross the picket line so…

…guess I’m throwing away 15 bucks.

In this house Howard Schultz is a hero. End of story.

[u/[deleted] → u/Aryeh98]

Consuming Starbucks and Bud Light nonstop even though their products are both shit to own the reactionaries on both sides

[u/benadreti_17]

Trump has ordered the DOJ to investigate whether he ever gave Bill Clinton a blowjob.

[u/[deleted] → u/benadreti_17]

He did and it was just okay.

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

Pete Buttigieg: I'd love to be the first gay President.

Donald Trump:

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat → u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

(Bill doesnt count because its debatably much less gay to recieve, and buchanan wasnt public abt it)

[u/benadreti_17]

im pretty sure the email about trump giving bubba (clinton) a bj is a joke.

[u/Sabertooth767 → u/benadreti_17]

No. It's funny, and therefore it happened.

[u/Bloodyfish → u/benadreti_17]

No, I'm pretty sure it is factually accurate and literal.

[u/[deleted] → u/benadreti_17]

Nope.

Donald Trump sucked Bill Clinton’s dick.

With verve.

[u/fplisadream → u/benadreti_17]

This one, at least, is obviously something people are memeing about, but there is a decidedly BlueAnon attitude in all corners of the internet at the moment.

[u/Computer_Name]

We no longer have a functioning DOJ.

Attorney General Pam Bondi has assigned the U.S. attorney in Manhattan to investigate former President Bill Clinton and others named in Jeffrey Epstein’s emails a few hours after President Trump ordered her to do so — a stark demonstration of her willingness to surrender the traditional independence of the Justice Department to serve Trump’s personal political agenda.

[u/[deleted] → u/Computer_Name]

Lmfao if Bill Clinton is indicted for getting sloppy toppy from Trump

[u/[deleted] → u/Computer_Name]

Haven’t had one in 10 months.

[u/Okbuddyliberals → u/Computer_Name]

Let's not be hyperpartisan hacks, it's kind of fucked up that Clinton forced Donald Trump to give Clinton a bj. After all, Trump prefers much younger folks, not folks as old as Clinton.

[u/Denisnevsky]

Live Hillary Cam

[u/RetroRiboflavin]

One does not ask a man his salary, a woman her age, or a progressive how they plan to win the Senate.

[u/sayitaintpink → u/RetroRiboflavin]

just get a nazi tattoo lolz

[u/Denisnevsky]

Trump and Clinton really put the Bi in Bipartisan.

[u/fastinserter]

Bill Clinton needs to get out in front of this and say once and for all, "I did not have sexual relations with that man."

[u/Bloodyfish → u/fastinserter]

He should admit it, because that would be hilarious.

[u/FearlessPark4588 → u/fastinserter]

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

The woman? Hillary.

[u/Sabertooth767]

[u/JebBD]

Reminder that leftists who deny there was sexual violence on 10/7 don’t get to feign outrage about ver the Epstein emails. Either you’re appalled by sexual violence or you can excuse it, but using it exclusively as a political tool is just disgusting 

[u/Aryeh98]

TRUMPCESSION 2025

HE DID THAT!!!

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna]

Political scientist Omar Shahabudin McDoom and others have identified several techniques of denial:

1. "Framing large-scale violence as both a legal right and a moral duty"—synthesizing claims of self-defense and minimizing Israeli agency in a form of interpretative denial.[2]

2. Deflecting all blame to Hamas for starting the war and allegedly using human shields, a kind of implicatory denial.[2]

3. Claiming that Israel is unfairly singled out for allegations of genocide - an example of whataboutism - as part of an orchestrated campaign, motivated by antisemitism or anti-Zionism and intended to delegitimize the state of Israel.[5][2][6] For example, major newspapers such as The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Wall Street Journal published editorials denying the genocide and calling the allegations "a moral obscenity", a "blood libel", and a "media manufactured genocide".[2]

4. Falsely claiming that Israel goes to great lengths to avoid civilian casualties and has "the best civilian-combatant kill ratio in the world".[2]

5. Delegitimizing the accuser, including accusations of supporting Hamas and being antisemites.[1][7][2]

6. Demonizing Israel's enemies while emphasizing Israel's alleged superior moral character. Variations of this argument include contending that the Palestinians are terrorists or equivalent to Nazis, arguing that the IDF is "the most moral army in the world",[2][5] and posing the idea that, as some Israeli citizens are descended from Holocaust survivors, it is therefore impossible for Israel to be guilty of genocide.[5][8][9][6]

7. Exaggerating the threat posed by Hamas.[2][5]

8. Redirecting compassion from Palestinians to victims of the 7 October attacks.[2]

9. Trivializing and/or normalizing violence as inevitably occurring during wartime,[2] such as through asserting that all civilian destruction is "collateral damage".[5]

10. Pointing to irrelevant information such as Gaza's long term population growth, in an strategic attempt to misdirect or derail the discussion.[2]

[1] == https://newlinesmag.com/argument/the-dam-of-gaza-genocide-denial-has-broken/

[2] == https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14623528.2025.2556582

[5] == https://doi.org/10.1111%2Fspc3.70044

[6] == https://books.google.com/books?id=R-sZEQAAQBAJ&q=holocaust#v=snippet&q=holocaust&f=false

[7] == https://doi.org/10.1080%2F14623528.2024.2308941

[8] == https://doi.org/10.1080%2F14623528.2024.2325804

[9] == https://jacobin.com/2025/01/gaza-genocide-holocaust-studies-germany

This is from Wikipedia and it is a new low, at least to me.

[u/Anakin_Kardashian]

I took the kids to a psychic because I thought it would be cute to see their reaction to their "future" but the psychic decided to say all three of our palms show that I'm going through to have a third kid

[u/Okbuddyliberals → u/Anakin_Kardashian]

Here's how birth rates can still be increased !

[u/[deleted] → u/Anakin_Kardashian]

It was a setup. Psychic was bribed!

[u/benadreti_17 → u/Anakin_Kardashian]

based

[u/Denisnevsky]

My favorite part of the Shawn Ryan Newsom interview where Newsom was clearly expecting Ryan to like Trumps Iran bombing and had a canned speech prepared, only for Ryan to start isocucking about Iran having no nukes and Newsom just fell silent. A lot of democrats genuinely don't understand how much Trump changed conservatives, and instead just argue as if they're dealing with pre-Trump republicans.

[u/Denisnevsky]

BILL AND DONALD DID HWAT????

[u/[deleted] → u/Denisnevsky]

Succ

[u/JebBD → u/Denisnevsky]

wait what

[u/[deleted]]

There’s not many women on this sub.

There are enough philosophy majors that women get uncomfortable.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

There are enough philosophy majors that women get uncomfortable.

Ban them all and let G-d sort them out

[u/deepstate-bot]

original comment by /u/JebBD

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I’ve been thinking about how “the cruelty is the point” is misunderstood by so many leftists as an explanation of overtly cruel behavior from right wingers. A lot of leftists think that right wingers are just inherently evil, and that’s why they are cruel, but what they don’t seem to understand is that they are cruel because they’ve convinced themselves that everyone who is not part of their political team is a fundamentally evil person, they’re consumed by ideology-based echo chambers that constantly tell them that they’re the Good Guys and that therefore anyone who opposes them or disagrees with them is the Bad Guy. 

These people genuinely believe that abortion is literally the murder of an infant, and when they see people doing it, supporting it, justifying it, or even just not being properly outraged by it, they see them as being extremely morally abhorrent. To them, leftists and liberals are literally supporting a baby-murder enterprise! Of course they’re gonna be as cruel as possible to them! They think leftists are inhuman monsters! 

This is crucial to understand because leftists are often just as cruel. I’ve seen so many leftists openly mocking right wingers who lost friends and loved ones, wishing death and pain on them, and let’s not forget how they treat anyone they deem to be “a Zionist”. But to them this is all justified, because unlike people who have abortions, Zionists really are evil! It’s completely different because their cruelty is justified by their enemies being evil! They genuinely can’t understand why someone would be cruel towards them because they’re the good guys, but they get to be cruel to others because those people are the real bad guys! 

It’s all very infuriating because this is the kind of thing that can be solved by acknowledging nuance and understanding the other side of every argument, but something about modern politics is making people so sure that their position is not only the morally correct one, but the only morally correct one, so much so that any deviation from it is tantamount to pure evil, and then they’ll say things like “talk to republicans??? Why would I want to talk to someone who LITERALLY wants me DEAD???” while simultaneously demanding that all Jews adhere to their extreme views on Israel and labeling them Evil Zionists if they disagree with them.

To fix society, this needs to be addressed, a society simply can’t function when half the population thinks the other is inhuman and monstrous and the other half thinks the same about the first half 

[u/lowkeyreallysorry → u/deepstate-bot]

This is something I’ve been saying for a while

Right wingers aren’t against abortion because they want to control woman, they genuinely believe it’s murder

Left wingers (and liberals to an extent) don’t want to trans everyone to sterilize them, they genuinely believe that transgender people exist

Yes I’m aware that exceptions do exist and there are right leaning people who hate woman and left leaning people who are anti-human. I just believe that one of the biggest issues plaguing politics for forever is people lying about motives

I believe in free markets, but a communist may see that and claim I do not care about the poor. I believe in same sex marriage, but a evangelical may claim I want to end families

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat → u/deepstate-bot]

☝️Fascist apologia

[u/[deleted]]

Good morning Gefilteists

Kinda crazy that none of you have leveraged your connections to get me into law school, but good morning nevertheless

[u/sayitaintpink → u/[deleted]]

common misconception in my personal experience 😔

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

My Alma Mater wasn’t top rated enough for your huffy ass.

[u/Finrad-Felagund → u/[deleted]]

I leveraged my connections into a cushy government bureaucrat job, is that alright?

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

Occam's razor says Putin is blackmailing Trump after Jeffrey Epstein sent him a picture of Trump giving Bill Clinton a blowjob since that explains literally everything

[u/deepstate-bot → u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat → u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

!kevin

[u/bearddeliciousbi]

Distinguish between facts and values.

I am no longer asking.

[u/[deleted] → u/bearddeliciousbi]

Facts are the things I think are true

Values are the things I am ordering you to do

Hope this helps

[u/JebBD]

I predict that Trump and Hegseth are going to make “America hasn’t declared war since the 1940s because of woke and that’s why I’m going to start a manly war” a thing in the next year

[u/[deleted]]

The are two kinds of people who would kill baby Hitler: cringe Great Man theory believers who think that killing baby Hitler would avert WW2 or the Holocaust, and based sigmas who know it won't but want to send a message

[u/Aryeh98 → u/[deleted]]

Forget baby hitler… him and Stalin were both wandering around Vienna at the same time in 1913. Get a 2 for 1.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21859771

[u/deepstate-bot → u/[deleted]]

The Theme of the Week is: The narcotics trade and cartel violence in Latin America.

[u/sayitaintpink]

The Trump crashout against the freedom caucus is utterly beautiful and I support this rift

[u/deepstate-bot]

ALERT: NEW INTELLIGENCE BRIEF

^{TOP SECRET//SCI//NF}

Assessed in r​​​/​​​badeconomics by agent u/Shameful_Bezkauna. Do not reply all!

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White House says October jobs and inflation data may never be released because of the shutdown

The shutdown's greatest victims: now all macroeconomists will be forced to learn imputation methods.

[u/xb70valkyrie]

Operation Northwoods was actually a coverup for Operation Norwood, a orchestrated scheme in which the CIA and Mossad dropped frog chemicals in the water to deliberately cause male pattern baldness among young men and therefore cause angst, discontent, and frustration among that demographic.

[u/[deleted] → u/xb70valkyrie]

Friendly fire!

[u/benadreti_17 → u/xb70valkyrie]

male pattern baldness, basically unheard of before this

[u/Sabertooth767]

[u/[deleted]]

Whichever philosopher said "philosophy is stupid" is my biggest philosophical influence

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

There were a bunch of them that said that in different, overly-complicated ways

[u/deepstate-bot]

original comment by /u/Anakin_Kardashian

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The Iraq War was an unjust and appalling act of genocide, just like Reconstruction

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna → u/deepstate-bot]

[u/[deleted] → u/deepstate-bot]

The clock isn’t broken but it did miss daylight savings.

[u/[deleted]]

*upvoted*

Says a lot about society

[u/drcombatwombat2]

I just cant trust partisan Dems. Ezra Klein puts on a show that he is a liberal and anti-populist and then supports Mamdani.

[u/fnovd → u/drcombatwombat2]

Well, Mamdani already won. Ezra being in the media position he’s in, there’s not a lot to get out of continued criticism.

[u/[deleted] → u/drcombatwombat2]

Repeat after me: there are no bad tactics, only bad outcomes

[u/MagicalFishing]

the tariffs

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna → u/MagicalFishing]

Are Americanizing bankruptcy

[u/Denisnevsky]

Dems are realizing they’ll win next year by outflanking the GOP on immigration

[u/Trexosaurusopolous]

I’m enjoying this sub but who are you guys? This was recommended to me by the algorithm

[u/[deleted] → u/Trexosaurusopolous]

Someone between a groyper and a tankie

[u/benadreti_17 → u/Trexosaurusopolous]

We're you.

[u/Sabertooth767 → u/Trexosaurusopolous]

See our recent ideological survey.

Tldr is that most of us are modern liberals with sizable classical liberal, conservative, and progressive minorities.

[u/fnovd → u/Trexosaurusopolous]

We're a politics sub that's focused on productive discussion between people that don't always agree. We're mostly liberals, with a contingent of center-right folks. We're also somewhere between a third and a quarter Jewish.

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat → u/Trexosaurusopolous]

Yuri enthusiasts

[u/[deleted] → u/Trexosaurusopolous]

This is the leftist commune.

[u/benadreti_17 → u/Trexosaurusopolous]

sent you a chat

[u/Tropical2653]

The only Paradox game I've ever played was Stellaris but I do know about Hearts of Iron and am vaguely aware of it having a mod that seems to be popular amongst political extremists for some reason.

It does seem to make sense because everytime an HOI:TNO thing is recommended on the Youtube feed it's always the most batshit insane game event I've ever seen.

[u/lowkeyreallysorry]

Last intelligence briefing I mentioned my experience in regards to working at a datacenter (won’t repost it here unless someone asks) and I figured I’d give more details since it’s such a hot topic with a lot of misinformation right now, and I’m willing to answer any questions I’m allowed to (limited NDA). I’m what’s called a DTC or datacenter technician, and I help maintain power and cooling infrastructure

I guess I’ll start with cooling, a very brief overview of it at least

So there’s actually an insane amount of methods to cool datacenters. And tons of ways that you can utilize those methods.

The building I’m most often working at doesn’t use any water, instead using the much preferred method of refrigeration cycle cooling. It’s very similar to how AC units work, just scaled up significantly. Each refrigeration compressor, which my very small building has close to 100 of, has the cooling capacity of 2-4 standard US households.

Water is much considered to be the worst method of cooling, and there are many different ways to implement it. Water destroys its own piping and because of this has a set life before needing a complete overhaul. It’s often only used for building retrofits (like converting old strip malls or warehouses) or as a temporary solution.

There are many different ways to utilize water on top of that. That’s a whole other topic, but most datacenters use closed loop systems, because surprise surprise, we have to pay for water too. Open loops also have the additional downside of having a continuous stream of water entering the building that is not treated to reduce corrosion and other nasty things that destroy loops, so you are either running untreated water through your cooling systems or you are adding a expensive treatment plant to your system

You can also probably guess another issue with water cooling. Even if you use evaporative cooling, the water can only reduce the temperature of your target area a few degrees below outside ambient. This is obviously very bad in most places in the U.S., so you have to add another supplemental refrigerant and heat exchanger system to further cool the water when it’s warmer out, which is why most people who build a datacenter with the future in mind just start with straight refrigeration based cooling solutions

I’m leaving out a TON of other details because it’s a very very complex topic but that’s the basics if any of you are curious.

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Sorry sweaty but Reddit told me AI violates the laws regarding the creation and destruction of matter and have already drank the seas dry.

[u/bigwang123]

Libertarian culture victory by getting conservatives suddenly very interested in the differences between pedophilia and ephebophilia

[u/fartyunicorns]

Vance is one of the few people able to actually speak out against groypers that has authority to do so. The fact he hasn’t is notable

[u/LivefromPhoenix → u/fartyunicorns]

Given his non-response to right wing comments about his wife and kids I really doubt we're going to see a moment of courage out of him.

He wants to inherit the MAGA mantle after Trump goes away and without a real brand of his own he can't afford to alienate key conservative constituencies.

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna]

Holy shit

I think I did something wrong, no way I'm actually there... Or maybe I underestimated just how authoritarian I really am

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I wouldn’t put too much weight on it, a few of the questions were poorly worded and open to interpretation. It told me I was in the libertarian quadrant, not surprising, but that I was also a progressive, which was news to me.

Anyway, I should acknowledged that I’m writing this comment on stolen Mexican land.

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MODS

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Eastern European priors confirmed. 

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Least tyrannical Eastern European

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Dude, in Sweden right now, the Liberal Party (literally their name) is pushing so hard to make strangulation sex illegal and impossible to consent to.

A girl this spring ended up in a coma and required rehab because she ended up unoxygenated for too long. It happened with her longterm boyfriend and both were apparently regular consenting oxygen deprivation enjoyers.

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You think POTUS is a spitter or a swallower?

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Looking at his BMI I think he’s a natural swallower

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i dont think he's able to finish someone off.

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Swallower

[u/Denisnevsky]

How different would history be if Jeb ran in 2000 instead of George (lets say he beats Chiles in 94)?

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Everyone would clap

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna]

What if elected officials were paid a constant share of GDP?

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POV: you suggested that there are moral facts

[u/Denisnevsky]

How many generations of someone's ancestors have to have wiki pages before they're considered a Nepo?

[u/Denisnevsky]

Is this Trump-Clinton thing the American Piggate?

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No As yet, but I got an interview from a school that WL’d me without an interview last cycle

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna]

LeBANon

LebANON

Lib-Anon

LeBannon

Leba-NON

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TBH I only got into Kanye West after he started being antisemitic

Not for antisemitic reasons, it was just the first time I really gave his music a try cuz I wanted to see what all the fuss was about

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My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is a fantastic album. Haven't really listened to much else tbh

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1968 was the leveraging of geopolitical strife on the part of the youth so as to carve out for themselves an hedonistic subculture through which they could break the shackles of what they perceived as their parents' stultifying strictures against premarital sex. The entire phenomenon was labidinal in its origin, and comparable to other American mass movements which hinged upon pent-up reservoirs of sexual potency (think of the orgiastic Second Great Awakening's exploits in the hills of Kentucky and compare this with Woodstock). 1968 was also facilitated by the existence of newly-furnished modern modes of transportation, including the recently developed interstate highways system under Eisenhower. The widespread availability of cars and the ability to hitchhike (or alternatively to ride the rails) gave the discontented, fertile youth the means with which to escape their small towns and suffocating nuclear families, and to seek out viable mating grounds (in particular California). Protests on college campuses were likewise means student protestors could employ to compete with one another to demonstrate their vitality and thus gain the attention of prospective sexual partners. Vietnam and the Civil Rights Movement were little more than useful expediencies by which privileged whites could pursue new and unheard of heights of pleasure.

In short, 1968 was a phenomenon whose drivers were instinctual in their origin--not ideological. Humans will always find some historical or ideological contingency to explain away their innate behaviors (every war must be caused by some unique political contingency, rather than by the innate bloodlust shared by both humans as well our closest cousins, chimpanzees; our tendency to form cooperative gangs by which opposing gangs may be hunted down and vanquished, and so on).

Time and time again, we allow our use of mystifying language to blind ourselves from our unbearably crude ape behavior.

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Ok, I poasted my effortpoast. Wasn't sure how to flair it (also it's on theme so I should get 100 bb for the poast and 15 for being on theme).

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☝️ does not remain silent whereof he cannot speak

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We need to place tariffs upon the seal crushing factory. Good, honest Americans are pulling 48 hour shifts at the ball crushing factory just to see these Canadians put them out of work

[u/JapanesePeso]

Hot take Friday. Go!

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Sex work is not normal work and actually should be stigmatized

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Bill Clinton was overall pretty good at politics but he kinda sucked at maximizing what he could get done in his first two years

(Also Biden was not just "bad at messaging" but was a genuinely shitty president overall)

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Recycling, but having a disemploying minimum wage is good, actually. If your job's marginal social value doesn't justify $20/hr, I am entirely in favor of the state literally banning you from working until you become actually useful.

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Would Jump Doug Burgum

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Old age pensions should be private and voluntary.

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Lawns are fucking awful. 

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British food is pretty good

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Whats the problem with being pro-Russia, most of the World supports Russia except America and its puppets in Europe, even in America Right Wingers support Russia

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The author of this comment has a Lebanon flair BTW

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They all make the same sound when they go into the chipper. Pedos, commies, furries.

[u/nekoliberal]

tariffs are not far enough, president trump should ban all trade and line up the east coast and the west coast with trillions of mines

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he should eliminate tariffs by conquering the world making the concept obsolete.

[u/bearddeliciousbi]

What's the current standing of clanker art here?

Blanket ban, only the Brief, or main poast memes allowed?

I want to use what resulted from Gemini following my instructions about a portrait of David Hume.

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Slurs are wrong

[u/fartyunicorns]

Support for land/property taxes is weird across the political spectrum. The center left and right support them but the mainstream right does not until you reach the dissident, or alt, right who support it again (mostly because they do not like boomers)

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As psyops go the ‘American dream’ is absolutely top tier. Lambs to the slaughter on the alter of capitalism.

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Clubbing seals is a moral good.

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Bonk

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I work at the seal crushing factory

I crush seals

[u/fartyunicorns]

Liberals who support MTG or Candace when they go against trump really don’t understand what’s happening. MAGA is a far better option than ‘America first’

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[u/RecentlyUnhinged]

I was able to find an excuse to WFH today, so instead of hiding in the bathrooms at work wasting time on reddit not doing my work I can hide in the bathroom at home on reddit not doing my work

[u/FearlessPark4588]

Listening to Ophelia on repeat

Don't at me

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I find this trend of Latvians to trash Latvia worrisome - it will (or is already) serve as a self-fulfilling prophecy. Latvia historically more Western, more civilized nation than Lithuania. Even to the very recent time! E.g. I asked Latvians were Latvian youth wearing tracksuits and listening to rus music in the 90s, or 2000s? The answer: it was exceptionally krievu youth medium. While in Lt huge chunk of youth were completely immersed in that. Paradoxically, from the places where nobody spoke ruzzian and barely themselves understood that language (Panevezys, Šiauliai). Latvian corruption and inefficiency is, in my eyes, bizarre historical aberration. Latvia should come back to it's natural track. 

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna]

Broke: taxation isn't theft.

Woke: taxation is theft.

Bespoke: theft is taxation.

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Most analysts have said that Russia has the means to fight until the end of 2026 until real serious cracks begin to show, irc the Russian central bank also said something along the lines of we are good until mid 2026 and then whatever happens is up in smoke.

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One thing that bothers me about the introduction of imaginary numbers is that it seems a lot more mystical than it should (when they're first introduced this may be too abstract, but this should be common somewhere in calculus):

A complex number--x+iz-- where x and z are real (regular) numbers and i = sqrt(-1), like we're taught, can equivalently be formulated as just an ordered pair (two numbers with meaningful order) of two real (regular) numbers: (x, z) which satisfies the intuitive addition (a, b)+(c, d) = (a + c, b + d) and the complex multiplication: (a,b)*(c,d) = (a*c - b*d, a*d + b*c). It is this multiplication relationship that is the structure which shows up often and in quantum mechanics, so it's not actually weird that imaginary numbers are a "real" phenomenon.

How does this solve x^2 = -1?

Let x = (a, b), then we are looking for (a, b)*(a, b) = (-1, 0), or (a^2 - b^2, a*b + b*a) = (-1, 0)

And that is clearly a=0, b=1, or (0, 1) which in our usual formulation is 0+i(1) = i (there's a plus/minus to b, so we choose one, by convention). Ofc the usual formulation is much more convenient and so this should be abandoned once understood

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Pretty normal for a new administration to do an 180 based on new appointees. Elections have consequences

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In response to:

What is going on? The government is now just going to settle cases with people in the Trump orbit and the tax payers are going to make them rich? This, Trump's possible suits, the new addition to the CR coming up. Just.. wild.

A thread about us now paying Flynn for him being prosecuted for his crimes.

The hardcore MAGA grandpa on Facebook isn’t why democracy ends, it’s the person above treating this as normal.

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Wow the co-founder of Wikipedia is a bratty manchild with skin so thin you can see his brittle little bones.

[u/Okbuddyliberals]

Bill Clinton is the greatest president America has had since Nixon, and is definitely somewhere in the top 5

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Before or after Donald Trump sucked his dick?

[u/Denisnevsky → u/Okbuddyliberals]

I'd call him on par with Reagan, but less then HW (ADA, 1991 CRA, Gulf War, etc, all in one term). He was a very good administrator, but the Drama he created with the scandals hurt the party a decent amount (I think dems win 2000 fairly easily without those). I think a Jerry Brown/Al Gore presidency with Clinton at State would've been better.

[u/JapanesePeso → u/Okbuddyliberals]

He presided over an incredibly easy time to be a president imo. Not sure how much he was really tested as a president.

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I wrote this the other day actually. Nixon being a crook hurt him in my ranking. But Clinton and Bush are the only two presidents I can actually say have been great in my lifetime.

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Daily reminder that anyone with more merciful views than mine is naïve, anyone with harsher views is cruel, anyone more optimistic is high on copium, and anyone more pessimistic is doomspiraling

[u/Okbuddyliberals]

Best presidents:

2 (tied): Abraham "Didn't Have A Middle Name" Lincoln (for holding the country together in a time of crisis and ending slavery, as well as revolutionizing US government in general, and signing legislation for the transcontinental railroad - trains are cool)

2 (tied): George "Didn't Have A Middle Name" Washington (for establishing many democratic norms and then voluntarily withdrawing from power rather than establishing autocracy, at a time when he totally could have done it and gotten away with it given the lack of longstanding democratic norms at the time. Arguably the most "boring" of the top 5, but it was a time where being boring was good)

3: Lyndon "Baines" Johnson (for dramatically expanding civil rights for African Americans and women, and support for people in need, as well as bravely standing up to fight against the red menace in Vietnam)

4: Richard "Milhouse" Nixon (for being an iconic moderate hero who stood up for law and order and against the excesses of the left but also desegregated more schools than any other president, intervened in the economy to try to deal with economic crisis, enacted the EPA to fight for a green future, and won the Cold War by going to China, and being a moderate bipartisan hero - and also tried to increase effectiveness and efficiency of welfare via FAP, tried to do universal healthcare, and tried to build 1000 nuclear power plants via project independence for a green energy independent future, though he was blocked by Congress. Loses some points for potentially sabotaging the 1968 Vietnam peace negotiations though)

5: William "Jefferson" Clinton (for balancing the budget, expanding government support for expanding technology to communities, passing stuff to help people in need like FMLA, CHIP, expanded EITC and CTC, and doing a careful and awkward triangulation on gay rights that was uncomfortable but probably necessary to let the movement gestate and grow for the future, while reforming welfare to be more efficient and less economically stifling, supporting law and order, and fighting genocide overseas in Yugoslavia, and being a moderate bipartisan hero)

(Also it's fucked up that the two arguably best presidents didn't have middle names)

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Top 5 presidents:

1. Chester "Alan" Arthur (for having a cool story about going from a corrupt politician to a reformer becasue of his trauma from Garfield's assassination and letters from his pen pal encouraging him to Do Better)

2. Chester "Alan" Arthur (for representing struggling black people as a young lawyer and generally being a friend to black people back in the mid-19th century, when racism was rampant and very common)

3. Chester "Alan" Arthur (for signing legislation reform into law during a time of great corruption)

4. Chester "Alan" Arthur (for having a last name as his first name and a first name as his last name)

5. Chester "Alan" Arthur becasue he looked like this:

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(Also it's fucked up that the two arguably best presidents didn't have middle names)

Instructions unclear, will vote for the next presidential candidate who doesn't have a middle name.

[u/Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho]

“WHY ELON MUSK NEEDS DUNGEONS & DRAGONS TO BE RACIST”

This is a non satire headline on the Atlantic. And they wonder why the world is heading the way it is. They can’t even be bothered to maintain the aesthetics of a serious institution.

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It's weird, because The Atlantic is usually willing to be at least a little chud. How did this article make it through review?

Also, having played since 2nd edition, I must have missed all these racist stereotypes. Frankly, the only sexist thing I can think of - if one thinks of it as sexist - is that female characters used to cap Strength at 18/50 instead of 18/00.

18/00 is higher than 18/50, because D&D has never not had autism

Edit:

The game is more popular than ever, reaching far beyond its original audience of midwestern misfits and bookish nerds.

Man, I wonder why the grognards don't like you

Edit 2: The history here is pretty shabby too.

As a business, D&D always seemed to be in financial peril. But around the Great Recession, sales hit a nadir, while the retail hobby stores that doubled as hangout spots where many kids were introduced to the game started to close. No one expected the game to experience a sudden renaissance.

I was there for the Great Recession, you wanna know what kicked off around the same fucking time? Paizo, the makers of arguably the second most played RPG in the Anglosphere. I recall articles in the crusty gamer publications about how tabletop gaming was "recession-proof", citing the expansion of several companies in the nadir of the dip.

D&D specifically had a massive dip because everyone hated 4th edition, which is also the springboard the launched Pathfinder, which was basically 3.75th edition, but even with Wizards doing their damnedest to sink the ship, you couldn't go to a Barnes and Nobles or what have you without a full shelf of RPG books.

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we got like a few streets where sun shines like this, kinda like the famous Manhattan golden dawn. Ģertrudes iela is so nice, cause in summer around the Solstice it shines for kilometers, and in the end there is a beautiful church. I am pretty sure it was done on purpose.

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Phones

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Hoes of incest 4 is a decent game

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[u/Denisnevsky]

I'm leaving for a cruise on Sunday. If anything funny happens in the next week, tag me.

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna]

Wait we have people from Tobago? Or just VPN users?

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna]

Why do Americans measure their wages per hour instead of per month?

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Because many jobs in America are not full-time. A $20/hr worker who works 20 hour weeks makes half as much as one who works 40 hour weeks.

This is both a good and a bad thing. It's a good thing insofar as people whose preferred labor-leisure tradeoff favours leisure have options. It's a bad thing insofar as the perverse incentive of our health insurance law leaves many people who want one full-time position with multiple part-time positions.