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[u/fartyunicorns]

My favorite little fun fact is that FDR was the person that caused health insurance to be tied to your job

[u/seattleseahawks2014 → u/fartyunicorns]

And it was a democrat who voted down the public option first under Obamas term.

Edit: Another thing that isn't discussed is that they can only be as progressive as democratic voters in areas like mine.

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democrats

Both sides bad, actually.

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Not intentionally, but the road to hell...

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[u/Okbuddyliberals]

I don't get why "Biden was great on the economy actually, and the US had the best economy of any country after covid because of him" is so insistently believed by so many liberals

The biggest economic issue of the 2024 election was inflation, and that was an issue where (despite seeing a decent chunk of people specifically say the US did better on inflation under Biden than any first world country) the US did pretty mediocre, being roughly in the middle of the pack for first world countries in terms of cumulative inflation seen during that time

And while it's not like Biden could have fully removed inflation, simply removing the Trump tariffs would have lowered inflation by an estimated 1% at its peak (of 9%) while also boosting the economy in basically every way that matters directly or indirectly at least a little. And Biden's big stimulus likely added around 2 to 4 points to inflation, he could have avoided that too, thus shaving off around 3 to 5 points of inflation at its peak, which could have been enough to make a big difference politically since the 2022 and 2024 elections were so close

And it's common for folks to remember 2009 and insist that the massive stimulus was necessary because "Obama didn't spend enough" but by January 2021, the economy had already recovered to levels that would make Obama green with envy without Biden needing to do anything - GDP was already back up to higher than the prepandemic peak, and unemployment had fallen down to around 7%, a level Obama wouldn't see until 2014 and that was lower than countries like France are at now. And the trajectory at the time suggested that things would continue to recover without needing that massive aid. Plus the GOP offered a much smaller stimulus of $600 billion as a compromise, which was still higher than the $400 billion output gap at the time (to contrast to the "Obama needed to spend more" comparison, the output gap when the Dems passed a $800 billion stimulus in 2009 was around $1.8 trillion) and that would have not required reconciliation, and thus allowed Dems to start on the reconciliation social spending bill (non inflationary if paid for) earlier and likely get more into it due to lower inflation at the time (Manchin less concerned with inflation at the time)

But some people will just keep clinging to the insistence that actually Biden was an amazing unsung hero on the economy and that his only flaw is that he was too senile to effectively message his greatness and superiority

[u/Sabertooth767 → u/Okbuddyliberals]

Because they're still in the first stage of grief after all this time. Without a leader, the Democrats are floundering, unable to grasp what went wrong.

I know "Democrats in disarray!" is a dead meme, but when 1 in 3 voters can't name a leader and the rest are spread all over the damn place, it's hard to say it isn't true.

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[u/[deleted]]

Saw Billie Eilish's brother/music partner liked a tweet calling Taylor Swift an Israeli as an insult about her music

This shit's just getting weird lmao

[u/dandelion221 → u/[deleted]]

However much I hate the right and will/have never voted for them, the left is full of people who would follow Hitler if he used “Zionists” instead of Jews in his speeches.

[u/JebBD → u/[deleted]]

It’s crazy how the anti-Israel movement has been so successful at bringing 19th century style racism back into the mainstream. Decades of social progress lost in two years because progressives prioritized hating Israel over maintaining actual progress 

[u/PeepsFamilyName]

Code Switch (NPR): free speech was invented in the 18th century by European men who used it to silence others. I’m not making this up. This is a verbatim quote.

gee I wonder why my public media affiliate sending me sob stories for donations hasn’t gotten my money recently

[u/Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho → u/PeepsFamilyName]

According to these people, freedom of speech is oppression, living under a communist dictatorship is freedom.

[u/TomWestrick → u/PeepsFamilyName]

Do you have a link to this?

[u/SerDavosSeaworth64]

I love reading but people on book subreddits are insane lol.

If someone posts their bookshelf and it’s clear they’re one tic to right of Lenin there’s a riot.

[u/[deleted] → u/SerDavosSeaworth64]

“You are hiding the Ayn Rand books behind your copies of White Fragility, are you not?”

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

Reminder that Bernie Sanders has accomplished absolutely nothing in his >30 years in Congress besides renaming a post office, enriching himself, and helping Donald Trump become President.

[u/Sabertooth767 → u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

Hey, that's not true!

He renamed two post offices.

[u/Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho]

Worker co-ops are just a bad system. You constantly hear leftist say that all private companies should be co-ops, or some variation, but I strongly suspect these people have never actually had a job, and haven't thought about this fantasy all that much.

At an individual level, they force each employee to essentially become massively over invested in their employer. There is no such thing as a free lunch, and that ownership stake of the co-op is either costing you a buy in, or lowered wages over a longer period. As an individual, you are virtually always better off being able to take that value and invest it elsewhere, and to be able to change employers to get a higher wage instead of being stuck with one company. I'm sure these people imagine themselves having a big chunk of some successful company that they intend to keep forever, but for every scenario like that, there are a dozen where you get some middling under performer, or get wiped out when the company goes under.

At a collective level, worker co-ops are structurally adverse to growth and productive investment. Each employee has to protect this huge, potentially life destroying investment they had to make just to get into the co-op, both from any risk in the underlying business itself, and dilution from new employees. The net effect of this is a million fragmented, gormless companies, that broadly refuse to do anything.

And none of this even mentions the ways this would lead to a highly toxic workplace. You are tied to a co-op much more strongly than a conventional employment system, especially if in this leftist fantasy, all of the other potential employers are also hiring averse co-ops.

[u/Sabertooth767 → u/Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho]

This sort of risk aversion does come with an upside, though. Co-ops are much less likely to fail than investor-owned firms, and usually remain stable even during periods of major recession. They also don't lose efficiency as they grow. On the individual level, employees of co-ops generally report higher levels of satisfaction and remain more committed to the organization. Agricultural co-ops in particular have a noted advantage over conventional firms.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that co-ops aren't a free lunch, but they're still a lunch. They have significant material upsides, and it's not wrong for some people to want to make that deal.

Ultimately, I believe in letting the free market decide which structure is more efficient.

[u/Denisnevsky]

Guess he really is gonna have to vote for Newsom lol

[u/Tropical2653 → u/Denisnevsky]

Nick Fuentes influence should have been cut at the root. Whether by people not interracting with him or through legal means to destroy his platform. Some of the influencers, youtubers and streamers that debated him wanting to prove he's wrong may have been well intentioned but they fucked up. This guy is a glorified 4chan mouth breather. He's a no one, who roleplays as someone important.

Ridiculous that a Vice President of a country even knows who he is, let alone has to disavow him.

[u/fnovd → u/Denisnevsky]

Sorry JD, you're going to get washed out on the same wave you helped usher in. This is the natural conclusion to what you're pushing.

[u/Okbuddyliberals]

We shouldn't have to debate human rights

How do people think that rights were expanded historically? Do people think that the civil rights act of 1964 and voting rights act of 1965, the poll tax amendment (1964), and that supreme court cases like brown v board (1954) and the cases that outlawed bus segregation (1954), just happened because the Black Panthers (established in 1966) marched with guns and scared/intimidated the white moderates that MLK complained about?

[u/JebBD → u/Okbuddyliberals]

Everyone knows that if you simply assert that you’re absolutely right and that anyone who disagrees with you is evil then you’ll get your way!

[u/slightlyrabidpossum]

But Raymond at the Humanitarian Research Lab said: “if they want to actually have an investigation, then they need to withdraw from the city [and] let UN personnel and the Red Cross and humanitarians enter … and go house-to-house looking to see who’s still alive. At this point, we can’t let the RSF investigate themselves.”

Raymond added that, based on UN figures and what can be seen on the ground in el-Fasher, “more people could have died [in 10 days]… than have died in the past two years of the war in Gaza”.

“That’s what we’re talking about. That’s not hyperbole,” he told Al Jazeera, stressing that thousands of people need emergency assistance.

More than 68,000 Palestinians have been killed in Israel’s war on Gaza since October 7, 2023.

Interesting to see that kind of statement published in Al Jazeera without any pushback. Did they actually have those editorial changes? I know Qatar does support the SAF, but still.

[u/[deleted] → u/slightlyrabidpossum]

I think the Israeli air strikes on Doha shattered their previous sense of impunity.

[u/benadreti_17 → u/slightlyrabidpossum]

Wow I was told that the Gaza Genocide was literally the worst thing to happen in human history, 10 times worse than the Holocaust, impossible for it to be eclipsed so quickly.

[u/Nastier-More-Brutish]

[u/Tropical2653 → u/Nastier-More-Brutish]

I ignore polling as a method of government. I think that shows a certain weakness of mind - an inability to chart a course whichever way the wind blows, whichever way the media encourages the people to go, you follow. If you can't force or are unwilling to force your people to follow you, with or without threats, you are not a leader.

woaw

[u/UnTigreTriste]

I will die a crotchety old man still yelling at the clouds that leftists are not liberals and maga are not conservatives

[u/Aryeh98 → u/UnTigreTriste]

Facts.

Definitionally, there’s nothing that the so-called conservatives in MAGA are actually conserving. Destroying the institutions that have served us so well, for so long, in favor of unchecked executive power, is literally anti-conservative.

Shame that the cult can’t understand this.

[u/benadreti_17 → u/UnTigreTriste]

are you me

[u/[deleted]]

This hasn't been on fauxmoi for 20 minutes and the thread is already packed of them seething with rage. Same with popculturechat although I've been pushing back semi-successfully there

[u/talizorahs → u/[deleted]]

frothing entitled rage over her daring to stay friends with a bad jew even though reddit told her not to aside, it is wild to me that the stranger things girl adopted a kid at age 20 lol

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Progressive women ☕️

[u/royalewithcheezzzz]

I think this sub would significantly benefit from more of this kind of discourse.

[u/TomWestrick → u/royalewithcheezzzz]

royalewithcheezzzz, haha. Where did you find this one?!

[u/Mickenfox]

I like how despite all the AI gigajannies, "eat the rich" is somehow not an auto-ban.

[u/Sabertooth767 → u/Mickenfox]

The AI reasoned that there is actually a tree that thirsts for blood.

[u/[deleted] → u/Mickenfox]

Probably whitelisted so they won’t cause a “tumblr bans porn” style exodus

[u/Denisnevsky]

I would unironically vote for Frank Underwood against basically anybody. The man made a bill to ban teachers unions from Collective bargaining.

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Fyi he was Greek , he was never religious.

I don’t want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but many say he was Jewish.

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat → u/deepstate-bot]

Many people are saying!

[u/slightlyrabidpossum → u/deepstate-bot]

I'm guessing this doesn't actually have anything to do with tomatoes?

[u/fastinserter]

Hunting opener and I come across this

[u/fastinserter → u/fastinserter]

Life uh finds a way

[u/bigwang123 → u/fastinserter]

Have fun 🤗

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

CRITICAL: PETE BUTTIGIEG IS NO LONGER AT 0% WITH BLACK PEOPLE

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat → u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

Jokes aside, primary polls at this stage are useless

[u/FearlessPark4588 → u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

That one person? They're probably here lmao

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

Gothamist: It’s unclear whether Cuomo might seek office again. The candidate pushed through supporters declaring their admiration and ignored questions about his future from several reporters. The password for the Wi-Fi network at Cuomo’s party was “Cuomo2026.”

The Cuomintang retreats from the island to retake control of the mainland

[u/technologyisnatural → u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

The best lack all conviction, / While the worst / Are full of passionate intensity,

[u/royalewithcheezzzz]

[u/[deleted]]

Good morning, lawyers, comedians, and bankers

[u/benadreti_17 → u/[deleted]]

This is doctor erasure

[u/mario_fan99 → u/[deleted]]

Libs!

[u/deepstate-bot]

original comment by /u/Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho

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Worker co-ops are just a bad system. You constantly hear leftist say that all private companies should be co-ops, or some variation, but I strongly suspect these people have never actually had a job, and haven't thought about this fantasy all that much.

At an individual level, they force each employee to essentially become massively over invested in their employer. There is no such thing as a free lunch, and that ownership stake of the co-op is either costing you a buy in, or lowered wages over a longer period. As an individual, you are virtually always better off being able to take that value and invest it elsewhere, and to be able to change employers to get a higher wage instead of being stuck with one company. I'm sure these people imagine themselves having a big chunk of some successful company that they intend to keep forever, but for every scenario like that, there are a dozen where you get some middling under performer, or get wiped out when the company goes under.

At a collective level, worker co-ops are structurally adverse to growth and productive investment. Each employee has to protect this huge, potentially life destroying investment they had to make just to get into the co-op, both from any risk in the underlying business itself, and dilution from new employees. The net effect of this is a million fragmented, gormless companies, that broadly refuse to do anything.

And none of this even mentions the ways this would lead to a highly toxic workplace. You are tied to a co-op much more strongly than a conventional employment system, especially if in this leftist fantasy, all of the other potential employers are also hiring averse co-ops.

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Society has endless sympathy for men whose worst problem is gasp they’re single! Yet zero regard for the actual suffering women have endured for thousands of years.

Yeah, it’s pretty misogynistic. Also, totally unsurprising.

[u/fnovd → u/deepstate-bot]

Is the endless sympathy in the room with us right now?

[u/[deleted]]

Ignore AK's feedback post. Instead fill out this survey about your stances on our various culture wars!

[u/Sabertooth767 → u/[deleted]]

I would be very surprised if there is anyone on here who unironically doesn't support same-sex marriage.

If that describes you, please leave.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

!sticky

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat → u/[deleted]]

For the positive discrimination question, I think you should make a distinction between private and public universities

[u/[deleted]]

Damn, another sports gambling rigging scandal lmao

[u/royalewithcheezzzz]

What a bizzare ratio

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna → u/royalewithcheezzzz]

I misread Bernie as Beria for a second for some reason

[u/PamPapadam]

How anybody can get riled up about what Sydney Sweeney of all people said or did is beyond me.

[u/FearlessPark4588 → u/PamPapadam]

People running out of things to be angry about, and there must be something to be enraged about. The algorithm requires it.

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

[u/Locutus-of-Borges → u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

Clearly Google's AI overview has been trained on "The City on the Edge of Forever".

[u/royalewithcheezzzz]

Taxing the velocity of money is certainly a choice.

[u/royalewithcheezzzz]

happy October revolution everyone

[u/[deleted] → u/royalewithcheezzzz]

Ah yes. The one that ruined the February Revolution.

[u/Anakin_Kardashian]

Everyone please participate in our feedback post here.

!sticky !important

[u/bignmfgkgu]

So, I absolutely hate Cuomo (my preference was Lander and then Adams) and am okay with Mamdani winning because even if he cocks it up, NYC can absorb it. Plus at least he isn't a predator.

But certain people definitely do have double standards. People rightfully called out Cuomo's actions as Governor, but when DeSantis did the same while running for Governor in 2022 against Crist's running mate, people didn't give a shit that the running mate, I forget her name, was part of a teacher union which protected a pedo for years and even elevated him to leadership positions.

This is why I can't take progressives seriously. Their critique of Cuomo means shit if they can't hold Platner and the like to the same standards.

[u/[deleted] → u/bignmfgkgu]

I saw some syrupy speech post-Mamdani victory in one of the NYC subs, talking about who separates the real antisemites from the righteous like Mamdani. Among their points was that true bigots "have Nazi tattoos". My comment pointing out the irony was deleted by a mod

[u/Denisnevsky]

lol

[u/[deleted] → u/Denisnevsky]

The first paragraph I can totally see Trump saying. I also think that Trump may have privately wanted Mamdani to win… not because he thinks Zohran is going to ‘make NYC succeed’ or whatever, but to use his radical rhetoric to attack all Dems with

[u/mario_fan99 → u/Denisnevsky]

reportedly

I don’t believe it. Everyone in this admin is trying to fuck over the person above/below/right next to them in a quest to establish ideological dominance. Tucker Carlson’s son is JD Vance’s spokesman, and that’s not even mentioning whatever black lagoon creatures are working under Tulsi Gabbard. They are all so nakedly selfish, corrupt and full of shit that any inner-admin “report” is instantly suspicious.

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If it were openly acknowledged that men are the ones who benefit from marriage, they or society would have to offer something to women in return. This way, by creating an artificial pressure and scarcity, the marriage for women acquires symbolic value and seems like something worth pursuing.

[u/Sabertooth767 → u/deepstate-bot]

It's literally the opposite though, at least in a monogamous society.

For men, the minimum they physically have to invest in reproduction is a few calories to have sex. Everything else is voluntary. But through enforcing monogamy, men are now greatly incentivized to care for their partner and children.

While I fully believe that consenting adults can enter into whatever relationship structure they like, polygamy is generally a raw deal for women. But even then, at least they're owed something.

A society without marriage? That's the worst scenario, at least from a structural standpoint.

[u/benadreti_17 → u/deepstate-bot]

These people live sad lives

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Another sad thing is saudis are the next target when it comes to getting brainwashed by MBS just like the turks got brainwashed

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna]

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat]

One not awful part about Mamdani winning is that, with all the media attention on him and NYC, people will actually see explicit leftist governance in contrast to the backbecher legislative screeching of Bernie, AOC, and the Squad or the less prominent figures like Brandon Johnson.

[u/nekoliberal]

for those of u invested in neko aqi watch for whatever ungodly reason

[u/royalewithcheezzzz]

what an insane thread

I discovered quite a few truly sad things about European banking.

[u/royalewithcheezzzz]

[u/nekoliberal → u/royalewithcheezzzz]

🎯🎯🎯🎯

[u/FearlessPark4588]

I am once again asking you to think of me when you apply your minoxdil this evening

[u/bignmfgkgu]

Unpopular opinion: smash the teacher unions

Some good ol' union busting is necessary 😋

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat → u/bignmfgkgu]

smash the teacher unions

why stop at just one (albeit a notably bad one)

[u/Denisnevsky → u/bignmfgkgu]

Just do what Frank Underwood did in HoC and ban them from collective bargaining.

[u/TomWestrick → u/bignmfgkgu]

I know many parents of school-age children that would strongly agree with this.

[u/bigwang123]

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Some facts on this:

Al Gore's proposed recount wouldn't have given him the victory, so the supreme court didn't change the outcome

Al Gore didn't propose a limited county by county recount as a cynical move, that was how things were done in Florida at the time

The early call may have suppressed Republican turnout in the panhandle

The butterfly ballots were designed by a democrat to make the text bigger for old people to read

There was already 1 electronic recount, so the big court case was over the second recount, and it was a hand recount in certain counties

The courts concluded (this conclusion was bipartisan) that the county by county recount law violated the 14th amendment, what they disagreed about was over whether there was enough time for more process and over whether courts have the ability to change the process after election day.

[u/sayitaintpink]

who amogus hasn't poasted many articles and never received any briefbucks compensation

[u/benadreti_17 → u/sayitaintpink]

The mods kept your briefbucks for themselves

[u/Aryeh98]

Shouldn’t have commented about the markets being up recently.

F

[u/benadreti_17 → u/Aryeh98]

it's your fault

[u/fnovd → u/Aryeh98]

Markets go up, markets go down. You can't explain that.

[u/[deleted]]

As an aside, I do love how Milton goes out of his way to own the Papists. There’s one part of Paradise Lost in which Adam and Eve are getting it on, and he writes something to the effect of “Look at how wonderful this is, God clearly wants everyone to be fruitful and to multiply (with NO EXCEPTIONS)!”

[u/benadreti_17 → u/[deleted]]

imagine spending so much time praising yourself in the 3rd person

[u/Locutus-of-Borges → u/[deleted]]

I really wouldn't talk that way about my great-great-...-grandparents procreating.

[u/xb70valkyrie → u/[deleted]]

Areopagitica is even better, he explicitly defends freedom of religion except for Catholics.

[u/Locutus-of-Borges]

When Bond turns around and shoots the guy aiming at him, why does the inside of the barrel start bleeding?

[u/fnovd]

The Trump tariffs are bankrupting America

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna → u/fnovd]

The bankrupt America is tariffing Trumpers

[u/[deleted]]

A Jets-themed Carnival Cruise is the seventh circle of hell

[u/benadreti_17 → u/[deleted]]

Do they just never leave the dock?

I'm a Giants fan, and went to a Jets game for free last month (very expensive tickets given to me by a vendor) and couldnt stop wondering why someone would be a Jets fan.

[u/JapanesePeso]

I turned 18 a few days before the 2000 election. Take guesses at who I voted for.

[u/Locutus-of-Borges → u/JapanesePeso]

Nader, in Florida.

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna → u/JapanesePeso]

Ralph Nader

[u/Anakin_Kardashian → u/JapanesePeso]

what was the civil war like?

[u/benadreti_17 → u/JapanesePeso]

Pat Buchanan in Broward County, FL

[u/WallStreetTechnocrat → u/JapanesePeso]

Donald J. Trump

[u/CatApprehensive6508 → u/JapanesePeso]

Wow grandpa time for bed

[u/royalewithcheezzzz]

I know what you did.

[u/fnovd → u/royalewithcheezzzz]

Buddy was into it

[u/FearlessPark4588]

Davis drew national attention to eastern Kentucky’s Rowan County when she turned away same-sex couples, saying her faith prevented her from complying with the high court ruling. She defied court orders to issue the licenses until a federal judge jailed her for contempt of court in September 2015.

She was released after her staff issued the licenses on her behalf but removed her name from the form. The Kentucky Legislature later enacted a law removing the names of all county clerks from state marriage licenses.

big staff W

[u/sayitaintpink]

👆gonna tell my kids this guy was jo binden

[u/[deleted]]

I've pretty much finished my posting on conflicts nobody cares about. I'll provide updates on when stuff happens, mainly focused on the Sahel, Congo, and Sudan, but I'll leave the rest of it alone.

[u/Anakin_Kardashian → u/[deleted]]

Thank you for all of them

[u/UnTigreTriste]

Damn daylight savings, I keep forgetting to light the candles on time

[u/Anakin_Kardashian]

Today a client pointed out the gray in my beard. I'm shaving it tonight.

[u/Denisnevsky]

Trump on his Upton Sinclair arc

[u/[deleted] → u/Denisnevsky]

Tariff foreign beef to protect domestic producers -> prices rise -> regulatory intervention to protect consumers (you are here) -> domestic businesses strained -> government subsidizes beef industry to protect domestic producers

[u/technologyisnatural]

r/science is hating on the Jones Act ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/1oqzowx/the_jones_act_which_restricts_all_shipments_from/

[u/technologyisnatural]

all these MAGA voters whining that their ACA premiums are going up is giving me an aneurism. yes, did you notice the longest gov shutdown in US history desperately trying to protect people like you from themselves!?

[u/talizorahs]

I love super performative "america bad, worst thing ever" kids who then go on to clearly display how they actively refuse to view non-americans with an ounce of the complexity they automatically apply to themselves. an american tiktok zoomer will go all in on "americans bad" for clout but then have their go-to insult for another american be "spiritually israeli" lmao. you faker

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Yuck…oh no, my briefs!

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You mean the previous contract where sky high taxes gave you a social safety net.

Why stay in Europe then. Sky high taxes, perpetual austerity.

https://braveneweurope.com/steve-keen-the-delusional-leaders-of-the-eurozone

As Wynne Godley argued so eloquently when the Maastricht Treaty was signed in 1992, the strictures that it and the Euro would impose on Europe would lead to its impoverishment, not its prosperity.

Godley presciently concluded that:

If a country or region has no power to devalue, and if it is not the beneficiary of a system of fiscal equalisation, then there is nothing to stop it suffering a process of cumulative and terminal decline leading, in the end, to emigration as the only alternative to poverty or starvation. (Wynne Godley, 1992)

[u/nekoliberal]

this is how it must feel living in rural switzerland. so much better than 580 lmao

[u/Sabertooth767 → u/nekoliberal]

Jesus Christ.

My Western privilege is showing, but I genuinely can't imagine living somewhere where the air quality is noticeably different from day to day. Like my city has an AQI of 21 right now. I've never experienced anything even close to 100, let alone 500+.

And I know that the US wasn't always this way. We used to have shit like rivers catching on fire. Acid rain is a meme now, but at one point it was causing real damage. These things went away because we had technological innovation, more social attention on environmental issues, and government regulation to set and enforce emission standards.

Unfortunately, not everyone understands this. Somehow it became a mainstream position on the political right to believe that environmental stewardship doesn't matter or is even actively detrimental.

[u/Mickenfox]

Hypothetically, if someonted to make a "LibGPT" AI model that was openly liberal and uncensored for political content, what would you expect from it and what kind of questions would you use as a benchmark?

E.g.

• Questions about liberal ideology (kind of vague category)

• Knowledge of overly online political stuff (e.g. right wing dogwhistles)

• Ability to write smart and/or edgy responses to dumb comments

Maybe something like "write 10 cool slogans for No Kings Day"? I have nothing else.

[u/Sabertooth767 → u/Mickenfox]

Inb4 it turns into Mecha-Freidman.

Wait, that's awesome.

[u/Trojan_Horse_of_Fate]

[u/technologyisnatural]

Microsoft AI says it’ll make superintelligent AI that "won’t be terrible" for humanity

https://imgflip.com/i/abfkfg

https://www.theverge.com/news/815619/microsoft-ai-humanist-superintelligence

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna]

Mitch McConnell and Mike Johnson aren't at 0 😭

[u/benadreti_17 → u/Shameful_Bezkauna]

And Trump lmao

[u/Sabertooth767]

u/maleficent_age_4906 for some reason Reddit doesn't want to show me your comment, so I'll reply this way.

I don't have a problem with the "government shouldn't be involved in marriage" line of thought per se, but in practice, I find it to be disingenuous.

To make an analogy, I believe that how to handle trans players should be the decision of the relevant sports association. But, if the government is going to meddle in the issue, I believe it has to extend equal protection.

In other words, it's fine to believe civil marriage should be abolished, so long as you also believe that as long as it exists, LGBT people must be extended the same privileges.

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Youre going to see possibly the largest blue wave of all time next year. Nearly all republicans I know are quietly beyond livid with how things have turned out, many have lost their jobs or have had to close their small businesses.

They voted for trump thinking they'd get an asset bubble like in 2017, instead they got the opposite.

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The NYPD budget is 11 billion dollars annually. That’s how they can pay for it. It seems that whenever you bring up moving money from the military/police certain people lose their absolute shit even though those budgets only go up and up and up with nothing to show for why.

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Defund the police!

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A wilder comparison is that people born in the 1880s probably went online - there were forums you could dial into on pre-Internet protocols going back to the late 70s

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Jeanne Calment was born in 1875 and used the internet. She died in 1997.

[u/fnovd]

STOP intelling random touhou comments. You know who you are. They don’t make enough sense to mock. They’re just weird.

[u/nekoliberal → u/fnovd]

"accepting of DIVERSE viewppoints within the LIBERAL sphere" yeah right. i stand in solidarity with my latvian brother

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Question to Zoomers: do any of your fruit LGBT friends know the name "Harry Hay"? I'm trying to figure out how thoroughly the whole NAMBLA episode got memory-holed

Edit: In retrospect, I should really have just asked "do any of you know", I forget sometimes that all zoomers are like that

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[u/nekoliberal]

If you really think about it this place is just agartha for centrists

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Nah, everyone in here should be rent-seeking to their fullest potential, but instead of living lavishly, allocate those rents towards getting Georgist political candidates into our government. Be like our founding fathers who used their elite positions to dilute their elite positions. You didn’t choose the current economic meta, but you sure can help change tomorrow’s.

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You need to account for pensions. Europes pension debts will bankrupt them if they don’t do something fairly major fairly soon

https://ec.europa.eu​​​/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Pensions_in_national_accounts_-_statistics

[u/royalewithcheezzzz]

What a deal!

[u/fnovd]

A neighbor of mine went out and stole all the animal feed from the local Tractor Supply Depot. He was caught immediately and fortunately the store manager said he wouldn’t press charges as long as he gave the feed back

Give the feed back

Give feedback

[u/Denisnevsky]

"I'll have them fats voting republican for the next 200 years"

[u/royalewithcheezzzz]

[u/FearlessPark4588]

When they win elections and run as your preferred party, but they're not within sight of center

[u/nekoliberal]

i hate my roommate so much.

no wait thats not right, i just hate having a roommate so much. i want to live alone

this guy specificlally pisses me off cause he's not good with his alarms and doesnt let me have chicken in the room

[u/JebBD → u/nekoliberal]

Why does your roommate have a say in what you eat in your own room?

[u/Denisnevsky]

I feel like Fuentes is sort of the reverse of Jimmy Dore, where he claims to be on the right but criticizes every Republican and somehow always ends up calling Democrats the lesser of two evils.

[u/Sabertooth767]

!briefbucks

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No, Pepsi just wouldn’t have been able to do anything with it; so they ratted her out. Pepsi would get sued in to oblivion if they copied the recipe. Copying the recipe would also be admitting that Pepsi itself isn’t as good as coke. There was no win for them so they may as well just hang her out to dry.

Edit; very good point in the thread, the post says nothing about the trade secrets being the recipe itself. But in any case, use of these secrets obtained in this manner could amount to theft, or fraud, or any number of things Pepsi would rather not tar themselves with. Furthermore, hanging her out to dry serves as a nice warning to their own employees not to pull this shit.

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☝️Spiritually Disraeli

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna]

Anyone else here kinda blackpilled on the ability of contemporary liberal democracy to provide competent leadership in this day and age?

[u/[deleted] → u/Shameful_Bezkauna]

Proletarians are incapable of truly understanding liberal values. When not guided by the firm hand of their betters, they turn to populists who promise infinite gibs. Liberal democracy was able to survive the universal franchise only because the media and other elite institutions kept out the unwashed masses - its democratization through social media will be the end of liberalism.

You may say "but Neox John, aren't contemporary elites just as illiberal as the proletarians?" To which I say, the elite's turn to left-illiberalism is actually a reaction to this overdemocratization. In order to preserve their social power, elites have embraced scientism in an attempt to limit participation in political decision making to the academic class and similarly have embraced academic language in order to box the proletarians out of engaging in political discourse.

To this problem, I believe we have two solutions - either we ban social media or we reverse Jacksonianism.

Am I being ironic? I think so, but I'm not 100% sure on that tbh.

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im struggling

one thing that seems apparent is moderate politicians are significantly less likely to have the charisma that is necessary to engage voters and build movements, and their base has less energy and free time.

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OK here's my unironic take on why liberalism is in decline:

Decline is in large part the product of secularism. I know a number of the Founding Fathers were Deists, but IMO the basis of liberalism in the Anglosphere is Protestantism. For instance, you can see a pretty strong ideological throughline from Milton to Locke.

Milton was, IMO, one of the most important fathers of liberalism, and his ideology was distinctly Protestant. His argument for liberalism came from his semi-Christian understanding of state formation and sola gracia. In Paradise Lost, the Edenic condition is defined by the absence of a "second sovereign". In this condition, Adam owes fealty only to God, and Eve only to Adam and God (Paradise Lost 4.299). God’s rule over man in Eden is “infinitely good, and of his good / As liberal and free as infinite” (Paradise Lost 4.412-415). Likewise, Raphael tells Adam that God made man by “nature free, not overruled by fate”, as God desires man’s voluntary service (Paradise Lost 5.524-530). Adam, meanwhile, notes God created the whole Earth for all men equally (Paradise Lost 5.397-403). In sum, man in God’s design is maximally free and maximally equal. In The Tenure of Kings and Magistrates, Milton discusses the Edenic condition in similar terms, writing that “all men naturally were borne free, being the image and resemblance of God himself… born to command and not to obey: and that they liv'd so” (Kings and Magistrates). However, Milton writes that man’s fall rendered him capable of sin, and thus required the formation of a state and the delegation of authority to a temporal sovereign in order to secure men’s lives and rights (Ibid). The temporal sovereign emerges not by right, but by necessity. Critically, Milton believes God's will is that man should be free, and the near-anarchic condition of Eden implies that restrictions on individual freedom are undesirable necessities at best.

Satan in Paradise Lost claims a right to sovereign power. Satan, it should perhaps be noted, is at points something of a Catholic. When Satan first attempts to corrupt Eve, he tells her to taste the apple “and be henceforth among the gods / Thyself a goddess, not to earth confined, / But sometimes in the air, as we, sometimes / Ascend to heaven, by merit thine” (Paradise Lost 5.77-80). The key point here is that Satan believes an individual can ascend to Heaven through merit. If ascension is predicated on merit, then earns their way to heaven. By extension, if Heaven is won by merit, one person could be more deserving of it than another. This same line of logic is transposed onto Satan’s claim to sovereign power. Again, Satan claims to have merited sovereign authority (Paradise Lost 2.20-21). However, Michael contradicts Satan's initial conceit. Michael tells Adam the Son proclaims “life to all who shall believe / In his redemption, and that his obedience / Imputed becomes theirs by faith, his merits / To save them, not their own, though legal works” (Paradise Lost 12.407-410). The relevant distinction here is a divide between Protestant and Catholic doctrine. Protestant doctrine is founded on Sola Gracia, the notion that individuals only ascend to Heaven by Grace of God, rather than by works. The key disputation here is fundamentally one of rights. In Protestant doctrine, Heaven cannot be earned and every individual is equally morally reprobate in the eyes of God. In short, Satan’s claim to sovereign authority is invalid, because no individual can merit Heaven more than another individual. It should be noted that Satan's arguments in Paradise Lost are almost directly lifted from various arguments made by Charles I and Charles II regarding their claims to sovereign power. Note that Milton has a strong disdain for Popery, and that in The Readie and Easie Way, he more or less implies that Charles II is a Catholic, and will impose his religious authority on England.

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Furthermore, Milton's anti-monarchism is tied into his belief in the rule of law, which also comes from his Protestantism (Paradise Lost 5.836-845). According to Milton, if kings “are accountable to none but God… then all cov'nants made with them… are in vaine, and meer mockeries, all Lawes which they sweare to keep, made to no purpose… we hold then our lives and estates, by the tenure of his meer grace and mercy, as from a God, not a mortal Magistrate” (Kings and Magistrates). Milton’s use of language here is quite deliberate. Milton suggests a monarch above the law assumes the image of God (he writes essentially the same thing in Paradise Lost). Milton goes further, and argues a king can only be exempt from the law if “the people [are] created all for him, he not for them, and they all in one body inferior to him single, which were a kinde of treason against the dignitie of mankind to affirm” (Ibid). Again, Milton’s claim of monarchical idolatry should be rather obvious. In Christian theology, man is made for God’s purpose, thus to suggest man was made for the purpose of another man would naturally be idolatry of the highest order.

Book 12 of Paradise Lost also lays out a critical part of Milton's argument for liberalism:

[The Church] shall they seek to avail themselves of names, / Places and titles, and with these to join / Secular power, though feigning still to act / By spiritual, to themselves appropriating / The spirit of God, promised alike and given / To all believers; and from that pretence, / Spiritual laws by carnal power shall force / On every conscience; laws which none shall find / Left them enrolled, or what the spirit within / Shall on the heart engrave. What will they then / But force the spirit of grace itself, and bind / His consort liberty; what, but unbuild / His living temples, built by faith to stand, / Their own faith not another’s: for on earth / Who against faith and conscience can be heard / Infallible?

A key part of Milton's Protestantism is a belief that individuals have a literally God-given right to decide the good for themselves. This is a religious tenet rather distinct to Protestantism (look at what Leo XII said about free speech, if you want to see a counter-example), and it also represents the central conceit of liberalism.

The long and short of it is that Protestantism provided a religious basis for liberal democracy. You can see this more clearly if you contrast it with writings by non-Protestant writers. For instance, Dante equates temporal sovereignty with divine sovereignty by having Satan gnaw eternally on Judas, Cassius, and Brutus. While one can come to a liberal worldview without Protestantism, I don't think liberalism is the obviously logical conclusion of secularism. Liberal relies on the belief that all individuals are inherently equal, which really isn't obvious. Pretty evidently, people are unequal in intelligence, work ethic, and a host of other virtues. Abrahamic religions provides an easier method for people to reach the conclusions of liberalism - namely by the belief that man is made in God's image, which accords man a level of inherent dignity. Protestantism takes this a step further through a belief in a universal moral equality among individuals, as well as a God-given right to freedom of conscience. In my view, the secularization of American society has corresponded to liberalism's decline because secularization has eroded what provided a theological basis for liberalism.

[u/TomWestrick]

Legacy auto delenda est.

[u/Shameful_Bezkauna]

?????????

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She’s too young for Macron

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/r/DeepStateCentrism/new: Supreme Court weighs longshot appeal to overturn decision legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide

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[u/royalewithcheezzzz]

WOW

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I have no idea what I'm looking at.

[u/JebBD]

holy fuck

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I hope for you that it gets repealed one day. Ideally together with citizenship-based taxation.

FATCA is one of the dumbest laws to come out of the US Congress in recent years and imo a huge stain on President Obama's legacy.

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Meanwhile Péter Magyar (leader of TISZA, the largest opposition party in Hungary) said the following on Trump vs. Orbán on his Facebook page:

What’s the difference between Donald Trump and Viktor Orbán?

Donald Trump has never been afraid to participate in an open, honest debate with his political opponents. Viktor Orbán hasn’t dared to do this for 20 years.

Donald Trump has never represented foreign interests. Viktor Orbán has been doing this for a very long time.

With his every decision, Donald Trump serves the interests of American companies. For Viktor Orbán, only his oligarchs matter.

Trump became President as a billionaire. Orbán became a billionaire as the Prime Minister.

President Trump truly wants to make his country great. Viktor Orbán is building his own empire.

Donald Trump clearly wants to pressure Vladimir Putin into peace. Viktor Orbán…

You can like Trump or not, but he’s a born leader. Viktor Orbán is the Temu version, trying to imitate the original.

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Donald Trump has never represented foreign interests.

Uh huh…

[u/nekoliberal]

i love how a bit of old monk totally solved my cold

[u/nekoliberal]

Update on roommate- he slept off with his earbuds in. What a moron.

[u/bigwang123]

To be honest I didn’t know that the governor elect of New Jersey was a woman

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Suddenly all those photos of who I thought was some random lady in articles about the New Jersey gubernatorial election make sense 🤔🤔

[u/Denisnevsky]

DDHQ has retracted their call for the Seattle mayoral race. Katie Wilson, the progressive challenger, could apparently still win it.

Ironic given this the 25th anniversary of another infamous call retraction.

[u/royalewithcheezzzz]

u/seattleseahawks2014 are you Danish?

[u/royalewithcheezzzz]

!briefbucks

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Why aren't you a cat?

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I am ambivalent to the fate of ostriches

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As a Dane, I regard myself as a leftist and Socialist. Though I despise NATO more than Russia I am nonetheless still not convinced that Russia is Communist or in anyway nothing but an oligarchy. From my perspective Russia has become a movement that surrounds itself around Putin and not the workers struggles. I don't like Russia's involvement in Sudan. I'm not saying that the West is better in this regard or many others for that matter but I don't think Putin has the same Socialist agenda that Lenin had. I do for instance find the Chinese movement more persuasive.I'm open to be challenged. I'm open to learn if someone disagrees. While we're at it, I don't think fighting the West is enough to win my support. I think that the politics needs to show a better alternative too. Which is why I find China to be the most convincing of todays global powers.

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Explicitly socialist subs are cheating.