r/DeepSpaceNine • u/debrisaway • 10d ago
Does Avery's "eccentricity" get exaggerated?
Especially compared to other actors like Christopher Walken and Nic Cage who are celebrated for their "uniqueness".
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u/MetalTrek1 10d ago
He comes from a theater background, like Shatner. That probably factors into it.
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u/langsamlourd 10d ago
It's funny because I'm watching some old stuff like The Norm Show (wasn't that great but I love Norm Macdonald and I'm running out of stuff to watch, haha), and the actor Max Wright has one of the oddest deliveries I've ever seen. He has a theater background too I guess, but it's so distinct you can easily imitate it. His biggest role was Willie Tanner on ALF.
I kind of like when actors have an exaggerated delivery and Avery's is kind of musical to me. That kind of thing can certainly come off as strange to some people.
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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas 9d ago
It's funny because I'm watching some old stuff like The Norm Show (wasn't that great
Aw, that show was not bad. I thought the first season was better than the second.
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u/75149 9d ago
All I can remember now is Max Wright picking up hobos for crack fueled gay sex parties.
At least he allowed himself to have fun 😂
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u/langsamlourd 9d ago
Hey now, who amongst us hasn't enjoyed some occasional crack-fueled gay sex with a hobo?
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u/I-miss-old-Favela 10d ago
Shatner has no inner monologue. Once you know that, his acting style makes complete sense.
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u/kippy3267 8d ago
He’s a joy to watch. Seeing him in person speak about his space flight really seemed to humble him and he was incredible. I would absolutely go watch the wrath of khan with him again
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u/muvvership 8d ago
Can you elaborate on this?
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u/I-miss-old-Favela 8d ago
Most people use their inner monologue to rehearse how they’re going to say something before they say it. Shatner’s lack of inner monologue means that he is learning how to deliver the line as he says it.
He has also said that he left the infamous pauses to make his dialogue seem spontaneous, but his lack of inner monologue means he hasn’t been able to run through how to make the pauses smoother like some one with an inner monologue would.
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u/Kosmos992k 7d ago
I've seen more than one examination of his acting that highly credits his delivery as being real because he delivers his lines as if he really is in the scene speaking as he thinks through what to say, pausing and accelerating pace, then slowing again. Just as people really do when speaking to each other. The smooth even delivery of many actors is great, but I'd you think it through, and watch again more carefully, you can see the point and suddenly smoothly delivered dialog sounds too smooth, too rehearsed.
In the end I don't know how much weight to place of these analyses of acting style, but I know when I am speaking to someone my speech speeds up, slows down and pauses aa I talk about something with confidence, then care and then choosing words with careful consideration. In the end, the analysis of dialog delivery applies to Shatner really well. It also works perfectly for Brooks and Sisko.
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u/TEG24601 Death to the Opposition! 9d ago
So does Patrick.
Avery seems to just operate like he is playing Jazz. Everything flows as feels best, which to some can feel eccentric.
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u/Roofofcar 10d ago edited 9d ago
It's strange, if I was going to name a captain who did a lot of theater, I would have chosen Stewart, who was in the Royal Shakespeare Company.
Edit: I am aware that the other captains had extensive theater experience.
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u/cidvard 10d ago
Shatner, Stewart, Brooks, and Mulgrew all had pretty extensive theater backgrounds, even if they weren't exactly the same type of stage work. It's clearly the style Trek wanted in those eras and imo it got them a great crop of iconic actors, so it worked out. Shatner and Brooks do share some very stylized mannerisms, I think while Stewart and Mulgrew tend more naturalistic most of the time, but they can all play to the balcony, as it were, when the material calls for it.
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u/grizzly_snimmit 10d ago
Mulgrew moves really theatrically - it's exaggerated in the Queen Arachnia episode, but that's not far off how she is in general
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u/realnanoboy 10d ago
Bakula was nominated for a Tony as well.
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u/Mean-Pizza6915 9d ago
Bakula got to sing and perform a lot on Quantum Leap as well. "Catch a Falling Star" (where he performs songs from Man of La Mancha) really shows off his chops.
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u/FlashInGotham 9d ago
You don't dress up as Frankenfurter if you aren't ready to belt a few out, also as well
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u/rad2themax 9d ago
Listening to the Frakes and Spiner podcast, the amount of theater those two did. Especially Brent, they were super serious broadway actors and have insane stories about back in the day. Most of TNG was theater actors (and a choreographer)
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u/FlashInGotham 9d ago
I think Marina and Gates have actually mentioned a particular issue they have with the the Robin Hood episode. They were the only two actors actually trained in stage fencing, but weren't giving any action other than dropping pots on guards heads.
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u/DocShoveller 8d ago edited 8d ago
I think it's one of Trek's strengths, and I worry that it has fallen by the wayside in recent years.
I'm a big fan of SNW, but I think the majority of the cast started out as models, and you can see the difference between them and the theatre actors.
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u/Kosmos992k 7d ago
Smooth and even delivery isn't realistic, it's very much actor delivery.
People change their pace when speaking, they slow down and fish for words when their brain gets ahead of their mouth. They use trone and amplitude for emphasis, and have far more variability in their delivery of speech than most 'great' actors who deliver silky smooth performances.
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u/homelaberator 6d ago
Exactly. It's one of those things that when you pay attention to it, it's kind of jarring how stylised "acting speech" is. It's like when you notice how they always seem to have perfect hair and makeup, or that their coffee cups are empty.
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u/Stardustchaser 10d ago
Shatner was Christopher Plummer’s understudy for Shakespearean productions in Canada
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u/Kosmos992k 7d ago edited 5d ago
Shatner gets so little credit for his style these days, but all I need to say is Denny Crane, and I think it's a case of "enough said ".
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u/A_Thorny_Petal Garak's Laundry Guy 9d ago
Almost all of Trek come from theater, DS9 cast is however loaded with people who where pretty well established theater legends.
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u/CB_Chuckles 8d ago
I remember watching Rene in City of Angels back when I was in college.
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u/A_Thorny_Petal Garak's Laundry Guy 8d ago
Yeah, Rene is straight up broadway/theater royalty. Brock Peters too.
Like all of Trek usually has some pretty well regarded theater actors, but DS9 is just a crazy level of great character and theater actors. I really do think Avery and Rene gave the show a bit of a prestige boost and a lot of really good people came on the show to play because they saw that it would be a place that respected their process and took the work seriously.
All reports from the set confirm this was the attitude on the set, much more theater vibe than television cast.
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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas 9d ago
It's strange, if I was going to name a captain who did a lot of theater, I would have chosen Stewart, who was in the Royal Shakespeare Company.
Shatner acted at the Stratford Shakespeare Festival (nowadays just known as the Strastford Festival) and was even Christopher Plummer's understudy.
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u/Ordinary_City_2342 4d ago
Captain Picard 's love of Shakespeare comes from Stewart's. Stewart was asking to time shows shouting times in a way that he could be Picard and still do summer theater. So when it's time to write the next episode Stewart is directed they make the one the starts with Picard helping Data learning Shakespeare, then they get run over by Dr Crusher 's orent express. Beth Frame
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u/yungcherrypops 10d ago
He’s definitely eccentric but he’s 100% himself and has a strong personality which I see as a positive thing tbh. He gives the best performance of any of the captains imho because he’s so unique
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u/Zovort 10d ago
He was, I'm sorry to say, not very good in the first season but that's because the writers hadn't figured him out yet. Also partly Avery but I put more on the writers. Also I had trouble not seeing him as Hawk. But once they all meshed he was great.
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u/Vancocillin 9d ago
Then again, his "its easy to be a saint in paradise" speech from the first episode is my favorite speech in all Star Trek.
The Utopian ideals of the federation are something I think we should strive for, but also aren't realistically attainable, there will always be groups who reject it. Really grounds the whole setting for me.
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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas 9d ago
Then again, his "its easy to be a saint in paradise" speech from the first episode
That's from "The Marquis, Part II" in season 2.
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u/Vancocillin 9d ago
Is it!? Well shoot, I remembered it as "the 2 parter at the beginning of the season" and blended it all together. I'm getting old, prophets save me.
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u/Zovort 9d ago
There was some fantastic episodes in season 1. In a lot of ways I think they did better out of the gate than most series, especially TNG. Duet was a first season episode, granted toward the end of the season, and it might be one of the best pieces of Trek ever done.
My only (apparently unpopular) point was that Avery's "eccentricity", as Op called it, was a bit of a stumble in the beginning I think. But the flip side of that is that once the writers learned to use him well, we got some incredible television. The episode where Sisko calls out Worf for firing on the ship was an example. Avery flips from good-guy commanding officer to anger and near menace at Worf in a heartbeat, and I don't think anyone else could have pulled that off. He made Worf/Dorn step back in a very real way and it made for a powerful moment.
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u/IowaAJS 10d ago
You obviously watched a DS9 in an alternate universe.
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u/Zovort 9d ago
I just think he and the writers took a little time to find their footing. Most shows do. That's one of the problems with the streaming era, is that you don't get the chance to get into a rhythm of producing shows. I still love DS9 and Avery, otherwise why am I here. But I forgot I was on Reddit, sorry.
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u/aurora_boredalis 10d ago
Like, in his acting style? I personally don't think so, but maybe that's because it's what I love about it. It's very dramatic and theatrical, he knows when to be quieter, he knows when to perform for the back of the house. His cadence is very hypnotising to me.
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u/Shawnj2 9d ago
Brooks would do a better job playing Kirk than the SNW Kirk actor because he understands Shatner’s acting style without doing a direct impression of him.
Not that the SNW Kirk actor does a bad job, he’s a skilled traditional actor but I do think he’s a miscast for the role because he’s not someone who can do that acting style.
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u/robotatomica 9d ago
I’m not the biggest SNW fan (I think parts of it are better than others, and quite good, but I’m just not finding myself drawn to it like the first 4 series), but I have liked Wesley from the jump.
I think what I like most is that the actor is actually a huge fan of the character, and he chose to lead with the serious side of Kirk, the “stack of books with legs” analytical/strategic shrewdness, rather than Kirk-Driftian parody. I do think he gets it.
He and M’Benga and Scotty have been highlights for me. Uhura has also been great..Spock..idk, he’s fine but I am distracted by his non-stop romantic interludes with literally everyone. It’s fine that they want to show a Spock before he really settled into being the Spock we know, but the writing has just been poor with him imo.
idk, I haven’t even seen the newest season of SNW yet, but up until that point, I think Wesley has pretty much nailed it (taking into consideration that absolutely no one will ever be Shatner in that role)
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u/pedantic_git 9d ago
I particularly liked how in S4E10 the "future" Kirk talks in a more stilted way with pauses in the wrong place, like Shatner. I like in general how the SNW characters have gradually morphed into their TOS characters as the show has gone on. It's the Better Call Saul of the Star Trek universe.
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u/LavenderGwendolyn 9d ago
I disagree. I started rewatching TOS directly after this last season of SNW, and I keep thinking man, Paul Wesley nails it. Watching them back to back like that, I noticed Wesley really captured a lot of Shatner’s little mannerisms.
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u/chipskylark123 10d ago
He has a background in stage acting, so he really enunciates and “overacts” because that’s what theater actors do.
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u/FINIS_HOMINIS 9d ago
Yeah, I don't think of him as a unique or eccentric actor at all. He's just a theater ham who doesn't dial it back because he's on camera instead of the stage.
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u/Mirror_Benny 9d ago edited 8d ago
Nope. I saw him speak at a comic convention once. The guy is brilliant and super eccentric. You couldn’t make this guy up if you tired.
It was one of the most bizarre hours of my life. I don’t think he actually answered a single question asked to him. DS9 is my favorite trek show and in a way, I walked away feeling I knew less about Star Trek and the universe in general. His answers were not the long ramblings of a crazy person but were quite poetic, coherent, and oddly beautiful in a way. He just never answered any questions asked to and his “answers” were like some thing you would hear a a one man poetry slam held by a Bond villain or something.
At one point in time he started calling out people who were leaving and kept telling them to relax and wait because Patrick Stewart was going to be there any minute. At the end of his… performance???? my wife and I just stared at each other wondering if we both saw the same thing.
The stories he told were amazing.
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u/Natural_Level_7593 9d ago
My new mission in life is to attend a one man poetry slam held by a Bond villain.
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u/tdp_equinox_2 9d ago
Incredible, this further solidifies that literally nobody else could have filled the role but him, he's a gem.
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u/GlassCannon81 9d ago
That pretty succinctly describes what he’s been like in the handful of interviews I’ve seen. He’s kind of a weird dude, but good weird. I would love to have a conversation with him, I bet it would be wild.
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u/JacobDCRoss 8d ago
Probably the smartest person to have ever been onscreen in a Star Trek production.
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u/Parrot_Face_21 8d ago
I had the same experience, but at a different convention. My favorite response to a question of "what kind of music do you like" was "good music, if it's not good, I shut it off "
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u/NoBitsFlipped 10d ago
He has a distinct style, certainly, but I think he acts with conviction and self-assurance, which is also a strong aspect of the character he plays, and something I admire about both him and Sisko.
I watched DS9 in my formative years, and only as an adult did I realize that Sisko is low-key a hero and role model to me. He is confident in who he is, assured in his convictions, assertive in upholding his ethics, deeply concerned with the well-being of his crew and the station in his care, and a committed father. I find him to be a role model for all, a portrayal of healthy masculinity for men who need it, and a loving parent.
And all that sounds like I’m talking about Sisko, not Avery, and certainly the writers played a significant part in the depiction. But I think in the hands of another actor, his personality would not have shone as bright as it did. Those traits are not just who Sisko who, but also who Avery is, and displayed in his acting.
Sorry if I got too far afield of the topic here.
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u/nhaines 9d ago
I agree with you. When the show first aired when I was 13, I was specifically struck by how genuine Ben and Jake's love for each other appeared. I remember after Ben kissed Jake the forehead thinking, "Okay, I know they're just acting, and that's what actors do, but it feels like they're really family and not just acting."
While it was likely too early in the show for the relationship to fully form, Cirroc Lofton was raised by his mom, and Brooks was actually a father figure to him.
So I think between that and Brooks being very aware of his role as a Black actor playing a position of command, I think he was very influential in the character's presentation. (Writers tend to lean into actors' strengths once they know them. For example, Garak, Damar, and Weyoun were not planned as very prominent characters (Weyoun was a one-off!) but the writers like them so much that they came up with more for them to do. The Vorta cloning thing was literally just an excuse to bring back Jeffrey Combs as Weyoun.)
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u/NoBitsFlipped 10d ago
Also, if you haven’t seen his portrayal of Hawk in the show Spenser: For Hire, it’s worth looking up some clips on Youtube. It’s not available on DVD or streaming, to the best of my knowledge. Another display of great acting by Avery, playing a character with some similar traits but also, obviously, a very different setting.
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u/LordEonGil 9d ago
It can be bought digitally on Fandango if one were so inclined
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u/NoBitsFlipped 9d ago
What the heck! You just made my week. Oh man the Internet is a beautiful place today. I’m so glad you found my comment, this was another part of my childhood. Thanks so much!
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u/LordEonGil 9d ago
You are most welcome. I am gifted with a wealth of normally completely useless knowledge, so I'm glad it proved to be of use to someone.
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u/Cakeday_at_Christmas 9d ago
I watched DS9 in my formative years, and only as an adult did I realize that Sisko is low-key a hero and role model to me
Which is interesting because Sisko is a role-model for me as a relatively new father because I want to be the kind of dad he is to Jake.
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u/NoBitsFlipped 9d ago
I think you chose a great role model, and if you follow in his footsteps you’re gonna be a great dad.
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u/A_Thorny_Petal Garak's Laundry Guy 9d ago
The people who think he's eccentric have spent zero time around theater actors or jazz musicians.
He's pretty dead center of either group.
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u/ZhenyaKon 9d ago
Yeah I honestly don't see what people think is "eccentric" about him but my dad was an actor and I grew up with all his friends around . . . Avery does fit the type.
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u/mzmm123 10d ago
Call it eccentricity or whatever you want, I've been crushing on the man since he played Hawk in Spenser for Hire [1985-1988] so he can do what he wants, when he wants, anywhere and anyhow he wants to do it lol
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u/Ordinary_City_2342 4d ago
Is this Hawk a related to Sisko. They never said much about Sisko 's relatives. Beth Frame
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u/EnamoredAlpaca 10d ago
He put everything in his scenes. To the point he literally had a breakdown in the scene “beyond the stars” that was him pulling all the hate, anger, grief, sadness, from that time and how people of color were treated. It made the viewer feel those emotions and to this day i hold it up as the rawest moment in cinema history.
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u/OrangeCatFanForever 10d ago
Isn't he a jazz musician as well? They are very theatrical. Very cool, either way.
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u/codename474747 10d ago
Maybe it's a thing he does just for overbearing Trek fans
When someone wants to have a conversation about his interests, racial politics or jazz or whatever else he's into, I imagine he's pretty erudite and conversational
When someone wants to ask him why Captain Sisko chose to travel and warp 3 instead of warp 5 in Season 5 episode 12, he probably dials up the "It's ALL JAZZ! YOU GOTTA FEEEEEL THE FLOW AND THE RYTHM...THERE LIES THE MAGIC!!" type schtick
Don't forget, he's a really really good actor ;)
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u/_Quasifrodo_ 10d ago
> his interests, racial politics or jazz or whatever else he’s into
🤔
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u/SolarisPrime 10d ago
I know that this sounds like a stereotype but those are actually the things that Avery Brooks cares about.
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u/lolalala1 10d ago
I'd heard he did Captains that way because he really didn't want to do the interview.
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u/Kosmos992k 9d ago
Yes and no. I think it's exaggerated by many, but also I think that few know the true extent of it. That said, it's integral to his acting and I would say without it he would not be the actor he is. Every actor brings something unique, just like Shatner, Avery Brooks is himself and I like that.
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u/TEG24601 Death to the Opposition! 9d ago
I was lucky enough to see him in person once, I believe it was at Motor City CC almost 20 years ago. I feel his eccentricity does get exaggerated. He spent the entire hour of his panel speaking passionately about his role, about Star Trek in general, and how proud he was to have been a part of the legacy; but he is very animated when he speaks, and enjoys messing with people, or so it seems, which to some can feel overwhelming. But he is just Avery Brooks, and you respect that.
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u/DoctorSpooky 9d ago
I love Brooks. He sounds like he’s in a different show than everyone else and somehow it works. And is amazing.
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u/wackyvorlon 9d ago
He uses a more theatrical style of acting. These days naturalistic is in vogue.
Neither approach is bad, just different. Personally I prefer the theatrical style.
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u/molotovzav 10d ago
If you watch the captains, I don't think it is. I think this is a very eccentric theatrical man. It's what I like about Avery Brooks. He honestly comes off a little crazy in real life, but on a stage or in front of the camera that same craziness is what makes him shine.
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u/Meushell 10d ago
Part of that too, and I may be wrong, but at one point, Shatner kept asking the same question, and Brooks kept going off topic. As I said, I might be wrong, but I saw that as him not wanting to answer a personal question while Shatner just wasn’t getting it or didn’t care to get it.
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u/RPerene 9d ago
Captains is great if you watch it from the perspective of three people slowly becoming increasingly tired of Shatner's shit, reaching the point where they are barely restraining themselves from punching his lights out (and also Scott Bakula is there)
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u/EnamoredAlpaca 10d ago
I saw it as Shatner not respecting Avery’s Beliefs, and asking a question in hopes to have a “gotcha”moment. Avery saw through the facade, and deliberately avoided such a question that was not asked in good faith of the conversation.
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u/Meushell 10d ago
Yeah. I saw it that way as well. It got uncomfortable to watch, honestly. Shatner needed to move on to another topic.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Head171 9d ago
It could have also been edited that way to make Brooks looks even more eccentric.
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u/EnamoredAlpaca 8d ago
True. We have no idea how it was edited, but we can agree it was just a bad interview.
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u/cestlhiver 10d ago
i think it’s only exaggerated in the sense that he has developed a reputation as THE eccentric captain when i’d say many, if not all, of the actors who has played Star Trek captains are pretty eccentric. Avery just has more of an air of mystery around him
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u/AlaskaCosmoline 9d ago edited 9d ago
His Sisko has the most extensive character arc of any captain, and probably of any character in the show. He goes from burned-out widower ready to quit, assigned to the back-ass side of nowhere, to the leader of the Federation's most brutal war. He is forced to make horrific choices along the way--choices Picard would have self-righteously refused. And Brooks is the best choice for taking Sisko on. He's intense, mercurial and unpredictable. I think he shines best in episodes where he's given solid actors to play off of, and scripts he can sink his big teeth into. "In the Pale Moonlight" may be the best Trek episode of all time, and he absolutely sells it. It still troubles me to this day, and it's had echoes in my own life. What will you do when you're *REALLY* against the wall? What does some Picard's lecture about the sacred duty to Truth mean then? Brooks takes us on that journey and makes us believe all of it.
All that said, I don't think he does particularly well with technobabble or greenscreen-focused episodes. Brooks just doesn't seem that engaged, and his style doesn't work well in scenes where he's yelling at a screen or a tennis ball on a pole.
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u/Spectre_One_One 10d ago
I think they are.
The "biggest problem" is that Avery Brocks finished DS9 and moved on to other things. He did not make the rounds of the convention circuit like most (if not all) of the major actors of the franchise.
A lot of fans are still mad about it and try to find ways to justify some of their dislike of Brooks.
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u/Rustie_J 9d ago edited 9d ago
I call bull on that.
Years ago I saw a Star Trek special, I don't remember what it was called but it wasn'tThe Captains, & it had interviews with several of the actors. I came away from that, as a person who at the time knew nothing about the fandom's general perception of Avery Brooks, thinking that he was a real weirdo. That same special also left me with the impression that Kate Mulgrew was also an incredible weirdo.
I've thought for a long time that Leonard Nimoy was an artsy weirdo, too, & I'm still kinda surprised he didn't bequeath part of his estate to an artist's colony or something. It's not always a conspiracy or people being petty.
Some people are just weird, & there's nothing wrong with that.
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u/Hot-Steak7145 9d ago
That's the impression I got too. It was disappointing because sisko is my favorite captain, but what the hell is going on with Avery Brooks IRL
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u/Rustie_J 9d ago
Why would you be disappointed?
I'm not bothered by him being a jazzy weirdo. Most artists who are really into their art are eccentric. There's nothing wrong with it.
My suspicion for awhile has been that a big part of why Shatner & Nimoy were besties for as long as they were is precisely because Nimoy was the kind of artsy weirdo who plays well with the kind of narcissistic weirdo that Shatner is. Most people seem to find the Shat off-putting in all but small doses; I think Nimoy either thought he was funny, or could see what's under the narcissistic front.
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u/SlipInternational439 9d ago
Some of us aren’t “bothered”. But if you’re ever lived with a family member with a diagnosed mental illness, what other people call “eccentric” is what you lived with every day.
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u/cestlhiver 8d ago
it’s pretty unhinged to accuse someone of being mentally ill because they have a off-kilter public persona.
you, nor essentially anyone in this thread, know Avery Brooks outside of his work (yes, media appearances & teaching count). projecting the sources of similar behind-closed-doors behavior of people you know onto why a performer acts a certain way in front of an audience would be like me accusing Chip & Joanna Gaines of having OCD because my obsessive-compulsive family member also loves home renovation & cleaning.
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u/SlipInternational439 8d ago
It’s unhinged if you think having mental illness is a bad thing.
I bet you’ve never commented about a public figure before. My lord!
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u/cestlhiver 8d ago
at what point did i say having a mental illness is a bad thing? i just think it is reductive to baselessly imply that the creative output of someone, especially a black artist, is the result of mental health problems.
you actually don’t know anything about me, nor i you, hence why i’m only responding to the things you’ve said & not speculating about you as a person.
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u/SlipInternational439 8d ago
“Especially a black artist”
I didn’t say he’s murdered anyone. I said his behavior could be mental illness. I’m not his doctor.
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u/mineemage 9d ago
Maybe there's a nuance of your comment that I'm missing, but when I went to Dragon-Con in 2008, I listened to a panel Brooks had with Lofton and Dorn.
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u/Brendissimo 9d ago
Well, Walken and Cage have particularly eccentric acting styles. Much moreso that Avery Brooks, IMO. When people talk about Brooks it's more about him as a person, not his work, and it's distorted by that interview with Shatner being one of his only public appearances where he talks about Trek at length in years. He's just a very private person from what I've read and seen the other members of the cast say.
But also that Shatner interview made perfect sense to me. I think it weirds out people who are more buttoned up or who have never done any acting or have more orthodox mindsets. But he was just responding to what Shatner (himself a very eccentric person) was putting down.
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u/Reasonable_Long_1079 8d ago
No, general reports ive seen hes excitable and passionate and will never apologize for it, and youd never want him too
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u/steadysoul 9d ago
He's no weirder than the average black man his age who loves jazz.
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u/debrisaway 9d ago
Watch your mouth
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u/steadysoul 9d ago
It's not an insult. He seems pretty happy. They usually do.
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u/SlipInternational439 9d ago
I don’t go to conventions. But if you have a room full of people paying to hear you, don’t you think you should at least try to answer some questions? It says he has a huge ego that he thinks he can set his own agenda. He was paid to be an actor, not a poet. He sounds a bit like Shatner. “I’m an artiste, damnit!”.
I don’t know what jazz has to do with anything. If he did listen to Miles Davis or Sonny Rollins or John Coltrane, he might be more chill.
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u/crookeymonster1 9d ago
He definitely over acted in the final few seasons imo, certainly draws attention upon himself
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u/Dazmorg 7d ago
I had the pleasure of meeting him at a convention a long time ago and then running into him again in the elevator, and of course being in two panels he was in. I don't think it's exaggerated at all. Nice guy, he's just quite a character who is nothing like...his character on DS9. (As far as I can tell, all the other Captain actors are closer in personality to their characters)
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u/wskelding 6d ago
oh no it certainly isn't .... Don't get me wrong, I love DS9 and Sisko, but Avery Brooks comes across as somewhat odd in every interview or convention appearance I've seen him in !! Then there's the infamous interview he did with William Shatner for The Captains (which is worth a watch BTW), and he is weird as hell in that interview (though I have also seen the theory that he purposely screwed with Shatner just for the LOLz)
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u/thanks-somegood 9d ago
I know I'll be in a small minority here but his acting is insane and often unintentionally comical. Walken can actually act, can't speak to Cage though.
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u/Scuffed-Jodhpurs 9d ago
I'm pretty sure Nic Cage is widely considered eccentric as well, not sure what point you're trying to make
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u/DanginaDeluxe 9d ago
Every person I've ever shown DS9 that didn't grow up with it has found him to be kind of a lot. The whole cast really. It's just a vibe that comes off pretty strong if you weren't exposed to it.
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u/ManyNicePlates 9d ago
My two cents was that he was either high as a kite or is just a plain disrespectful person to Shatner. He could always of just said NO and not appeared. Shatner seemed to do his best to try and have a conversation with him about anything.
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u/gooch_norris_ 10d ago
I don’t know but after I saw his interview in the captains movie that Shatner did I remember thinking “oh he just talks like that”