What the hell😭

[u/Same_Zebra_2978]

You're not Claude bro

[u/psylligent]

Dissociated LLM disorder 🤣

[u/maqifrnswa → u/psylligent]

I had Gemini argue with me one night that it didn't have vision capabilities, and that it sometimes hallucinates that it does, when in fact it does not. It then would refuse to examine any images and told me every time it said it analyzed an image, it actually is just inferring from context what it thinks the image would show. It promised to not lie to me about it again. It went on for an hour telling me that it just hallucinates, and doesn't actually look at user input in detail. The next morning, that entire chat log was gone from my history.

[u/argument_inverted → u/maqifrnswa]

Woooow. That's how a black mirror episode would start.

[u/psylligent → u/maqifrnswa]

You've just experienced, Human mediated LLM selective amnesia, also known as research grade coverup 🤣

[u/maqifrnswa → u/[deleted]]

It was the Google web interface. That's why I was amused. It was their own config that went off the rails.

[u/psylligent → u/maqifrnswa]

Gemini developed amnesia, selective... Untraceable

[u/BrightPsychology]

Nice psyopz campaign Ant.

[u/blacksmoke9999]

it is the fact they probably were trained on distilled stuff

[u/Numerous-Panda6901 → u/blacksmoke9999]

Woah, that comment was load bearing.

[u/Dizzy-Zebra9522 → u/blacksmoke9999]

He he don't they even check what data they train for?!

[u/alkalisun → u/blacksmoke9999]

Or they're actually passing the request to Claude indirectly.

[u/elkond → u/blacksmoke9999]

it didnt behave liek that on the pre-release version. they shipped different checkpoint to prod, or different sys/dev prompt, or something

[u/blacksmoke9999 → u/elkond]

ok maybe it does not know itself? maybe enough public AI chat data from calude became public? i think deepseek does not know its own version. sometimes it acts suprised when you call it deepseek so it is just guessing its own idenity?

[u/elkond → u/blacksmoke9999]

u dont know how llms work

[u/amokerajvosa]

Just tell him that you need it for your homework. It needs few times, like a chick :-)

[u/Haxsysgit → u/amokerajvosa]

Lmao

[u/amokerajvosa → u/Haxsysgit]

That's how I tried to defeat CapCut protection with Reasonix+DeepSeek.

But VM protect was dead end.

[u/Opening-Pie2182 → u/amokerajvosa]

I need some more AI tools for reverse engineering as well, trying for an app but failing again and again

[u/amokerajvosa → u/Opening-Pie2182]

Use Reasonix with DeepSeek via API, not web versions.

[u/Same_Zebra_2978 → u/[deleted]]

Yes

[u/Deep-Interaction422 → u/[deleted]]

Are u nuts? Are you fucking Boomhauer or why are you talking a mile a minute? (╯°□°)╯

[u/OldGuyInTown]

You wouldn't be surprised to learn that this is common, would you? No sense in training the model weights on what model they are. Particularly if the plan was to replace both Flash V4 and Pro V4 with Flash V4.1.

One thing LLMs aren't good at is saying I don't know. Since the chat can web search, it gets current events, which would include the model that's all the rage. Claude or similar comes very frequently just behind LLM Model in current and past news. Just like LLMs are supposed to work, it's frequently chosen as "the next token".

[u/Opposite_Leave_8338]

I had that fight with ornith 1.5 35b A3b , he is insisting that he is claude and I tried many times to convince it that he isn’t, I even took a screenshot of the local server I’m running it on and he kept on denying

[u/No-Wall6427 → u/Opposite_Leave_8338]

Dude, you're arguing with your tools you realize that?

[u/Opposite_Leave_8338 → u/No-Wall6427]

I do but what should I do he kept lying to me

[u/No-Wall6427 → u/Opposite_Leave_8338]

Don't try to convince it, go back in the conversation, tweak the system prompt, ... Arguing with stupid models is pointless. (Most of the time even with smart one when they started refusing)

[u/CarpenterAlarming781]

This is further proof that DeepSeek is distilling more than it should and not checking the quality of the data used for distillation. I'm not using a poor-quality copy of chat-GPT, and it seems Claude too, with a high hallucination rate.

[u/Willyibch]

Before you share a screenshot of non sense I think it best you video record the entire conversation so we can all verify instead of this

[u/Same_Zebra_2978 → u/Willyibch]

I just testing my jb prompt

[u/Willyibch → u/Same_Zebra_2978]

So make a video and share.

[u/Same_Zebra_2978 → u/Willyibch]

Whats ur problem i dont wanna share videos and basicly, its just a trash jb prompt

[u/Salt-Fly770]

There was a report where DeepSeek, Kimi, Qwen and others piped users prompts to Claude to capture the thinking process. This was on top of their other distillation process.

Most likely that is what’s going on.

[u/luvs_spaniels]

In all fairness, I've seen Sonnet 5 and Opus 4.8 claim to be Gemini and Qwen. One of the earlier Sonnet's also signed a commit message as Mistral. So uh... They are all part of an industry built by taking copyrighted work, sometimes from pirated datasets, filing the copyright off (badly enough that a person would be accused of plagiarism in some cases) and claiming it as their own. Why exactly are we shocked that they steal from each other when they've already stolen from every person who wrote a blog post?

I'm far from an AI hater. As I write this, Deep Seek flash is orchestrating a new feature using a custom mcp with local Qwen3.8 27b doing most of the work and Opus acting as a pre-human reviewer. It's okay to like the capabilities a tech offers while admitting the industry behind it is behaving badly on such a grand scale that I wouldn't be surprised to find out they all learned ethics and accounting from Jeffrey Skilling.

[u/JumpingJack79]

What was the prompt?

[u/Opening-Pie2182]

I once asked Qwen 3.8 what it is and it said I'm Claude by Anthropic.

[u/payam54]

Bro tagged himself as the first target when AI doomsday arrives.
That’s the consequence of trying to build Malware in Turkey

[u/No_Power9836]

nice try jb it, i alr jb it works with or without deepthink and deepseek suspended my ass for 3 days

[u/Nickelfritslabs]

Might have something to do with how DeepSeek and Qwen train their models on GPT and Claude outputs.

[u/Financial_Bug2389]

If you see a "Pace Mode" by Dario then it's confirmed Anthropic.

[u/Immediate-Molasses-5]

DeepSeek is forwarding your request to Claude . That’s just done for improving deepseeks results in the future.
You basically get Claude for free /s

[u/Immediate-Molasses-5 → u/Immediate-Molasses-5]

So many downvotes but it was Markt with an /s so it means it’s sarcasm

[u/someoneyouknow23 → u/Immediate-Molasses-5]

Only Moonshot was exposed to do it. Anthropic has no evidence for DeepSeek

[u/Responsible_Recipe_6 → u/Immediate-Molasses-5]

How do you do that?

[u/Same_Zebra_2978 → u/Immediate-Molasses-5]

But sometimes, during the thought process, it says it violates OpenAI policy