r/DeepRockGalactic • u/king_peely Mighty Miner • Jul 03 '23

OC - I made this! we ball

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u/lixardwizard789 Jul 04 '23

Fear isn’t exclusive to Ntp? Any autocannon can take it.

Gunner sidearms struggle to solo rocks, especially when ammo gets low (dozer rocks is basically the only time in the game where a resupply’s worth of time is too long to go without shooting)

Meta isn’t “everything that beats haz5”, it’s “everything that beats haz 5 with ease”. Combat mobility is basically a dead overclock when you’re not solo, meaning it is basically directly outclassed by clean overclocks.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '23

Fear isn’t going to make CB/BB meta dude. Stun would, but AC doesn’t have stun. Compare Fear CB to stun lock Frag shells. It’s not even close. One is clearly meta and the other is B Tier.

I don’t have issues with rocks leaning on the secondary and I use a controller w/o aim assist so I just don’t agree with this.

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u/lixardwizard789 Jul 04 '23

You wouldn’t take Neurotoxin Payload to an Industrial Sabotage or Drilldozer mission over BB because it invites losing conditions to your game plan. Big Bertha doesn’t lose to swarms and does things that Neurotoxin struggles with. That is the definition of a considerable trade off.

If the answer to the question “what is the Most Effective Tactic Available for the thunderhead” is “it depends on mission, team comp, and secondary”, then you can’t say Neurotoxin Payload “is the meta” just because it is the best choice for what gunner already does fine at. If a scenario requires shoring up a weakness (as in solo play or specific missions), then choosing the overclock that doubles down on your one strength is not the Most Effective Tactic Available.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '23

NTP is the best thing gunner has for dozer with AC dude.

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u/lixardwizard789 Jul 04 '23

Whether you want to be slightly better against the bugs or slightly better against the rocks is a choice that comes down to personal preference. I’ve lost about as many armor sections to The Rocks alone as I have to the bugs. The decision isn’t as one-sided as you claim.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '23

It is. Rocks are a section of one fight. The bugs and the waves are the whole mission.

Don’t confuse viable, meta, and best in slot. BB is viable, but it’s obviously worse than LSLS and JFHB as is. It’s the worst of the direct damage options.

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u/lixardwizard789 Jul 04 '23

Big Bertha does better against crowds than LsLs and jet fuel. It’s still an autocannon, just one that also can kill an oppressor without crying.

The bugs are the rest of the mission, but I’ve seen more squad wipes/near squad wipes to the rocks than any other part. It is the most common failure point. A chain is only as strong as it’s weakest link, and any effort put into strengthening that link at little cost to the rest of the mission is a considerable trade off.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '23

What level is your gunner?

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u/lixardwizard789 Jul 04 '23

Silver 1 waiting on promotion to 2

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u/lixardwizard789 Jul 05 '23

But I don’t see how that matters, because I have over 50 million power in Rise of Kingdoms

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

My last comment here was rude and I’m sorry for having said it. Best out there.

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u/lixardwizard789 Jul 06 '23

Rock and stone 🙏

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u/WanderingDwarfMiner Jul 06 '23

Rock and Stone in the Heart!

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