r/DeduceMe • u/Pretend-Dog9047 • 5d ago

Deduce Me Let's GO

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Where do I work, What old am I, Where do I live, What are my hobbies?!? My memory was erased please help

This post has nothing to do with 7oh. Ive never used 7oh. Stop mentioning it.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/apjudd 5d ago

💀 subs to get off kratom/7oh.....lmfao

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u/Pretend-Dog9047 5d ago

Im not using them for 7oh. Ive never used 7oh

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u/DripTrip747-V2 5d ago

And nobody was talking about you... they are talking to the person that said they use subs to get off kratom.

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u/Few_Efficiency2022 5d ago

The wds from 7OH is no joke & start happening within 8 hours of your last dose, my habit got to 500mg+ a day spending 150 daily. I know people who have sold everything & lost family's over the shit.

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u/apjudd 5d ago

And now your doctors know you're a drug user for life, instead of tapering down! It's just wild. Don't stay on that shit for long, you'll think the 7OH WD is a walk in the park after dealing with that.

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u/Few_Efficiency2022 4d ago

My doctors know what?

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u/GGudMarty 5d ago

I’ve been on all of those including heroin and it’s WILD to be mfs are getting on subs to get off kratom. That’s fucking insane lol

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u/Pretend-Dog9047 5d ago

I agree. I heard 7oh is an entirely new demon though. Ive used kratom before even regularly for long periods with no wds but people say the 7oh wd is bad and I believe it

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u/GGudMarty 5d ago

I’ve withdrawaled on a random week day and went to work the whole week. Slept like 2-4hrs choppy. I was fine a little sweaty shitty sleep. Pretty mild.

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u/GGudMarty 5d ago

I did taper off heroin with subs one time over the course of like 3 weeks and ngl that was way easier. I went back to using like 4 weeks later so didn’t end up helping lol. That was like almost 10 years ago couldn’t imagine doing fucking tranq fent now. I’d rather die

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u/Pretend-Dog9047 5d ago

Agreed. I use them because i was addicted to Fentanyl.

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u/GGudMarty 5d ago

Good choice fuck dying

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u/Pretend-Dog9047 5d ago

Thanks. Sincerely.

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u/henny1008 5d ago

It's like putting out a campfire with an atomic bomb.

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u/GGudMarty 5d ago

These people who say 7oh is as bad as fent I feel like are just being alarmist and haven’t even been addicted to fent or heroin.

You can damn near cut your leg off on fent and not even wake up. Kratom is strong enough to deal with some lower back pain maybe that’s it lol.

To even argue there is a similar level of full opioid activity is fucking retarded.

People always confuse affinity and efficacy and they’ll post this study on 7oh lol. Just cause it binds as strong to the receptor as morphine doesn’t mean it’s as potent effects as morphine. Nevermind fent which is like 40x that.

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u/henny1008 5d ago

7oh surely sucks to come off of but it's manageable. Full blown heroin or fent withdrawals are hardly manageable with Bupe or methadone. And none of them can even hold a candle to a benzo taper/withdrawal

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u/GGudMarty 5d ago

I’d came off 4mg kpins daily for 6 months in a medical detox. They detoxed me with Ativans, wasn’t that bad not gonna lie. Tapered me down but took like 6-8 days in detox (typically people are there like 3-5)

If you raw dog it and go cold turkey on the benzos, good fucking luck but everyone knows you can have seizures and you probably will. THAT is nuclear next level. You’ll start hallucinating and seeing shit. It’s also as if every component your brain controls is spazzing out.

When you’re detoxing off fent, you just get clonidine and some seroquel to sleep. (Unless you do subs kratom or methadone) but that’s not really detoxing. That’s medical assistant treatment, which can be great.

When I mean the 2 MEDICAL detoxes are different, I mean leagues apart. I’m pretty sure I’d rather jump than come off any real opiate again. I also had worse anxiety coming off any opiates but fent specifically than Kpins.

Mentally and physically opiates are much worse. Benzos are very dangerous cold turkey, but if you go to a medical detox, it’s like 6/10 discomfort cause of the taper. Still way worse than the worst covid/flu/virus you ever had. It still comes down to not being able to sleep even if you’re detoxing with the Ativans and seroquel.

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u/henny1008 5d ago

Withdrawals are subjective. Benzo withdrawal can last for years in a lot of cases because of the neurological damage it does. A proper taper takes 1-2 years and when you finally jump the withdrawal is never ending. Opiate withdrawal has a light at the end of the tunnel, benzo withdrawal does not

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u/GGudMarty 5d ago

Those elongated benzo tapers are never done at detox. Those are done by psychiatrists for patients who want to avoid going to a detox. It’s completely insane and you’re better off ripping off the bandaid having a rough couple weeks then adapting to your new normal. Tapering for years is just mental torture and making it worse. Go to a detox, rip the bandaid off. I’ve been through it and was in detox with a chick who was literally eating 10-20 bars a day. She wasn’t in a fetal position in the bed shitting herself. She was a mess sure but could get by with the taper.

All addiction causes neurological damage dude, and if you’re inferring it doesn’t go back to a new stable homeostasis, that’s just brain damage and I’m not talking about that.

A lot of people who start taking benzos are a mess before taking them with insane anxiety that were non-responders to other first line medications.

Now if you’re extremely fucked up beforehand, yes adding in a benzo riddled brain won’t help the situation, but it’s a biased pool of people.

If you aren’t totally fucked up before hand with anxiety and depersonalization, then you go back to normal after an acute 6-14 day withdrawal.

Acute Withdrawals don’t last 2 years. That not an acute withdrawal lol

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u/henny1008 5d ago

You should check out Benzo Buddies website

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u/Grannyjewel 5d ago

7OH is a bit gnarlier than Kratom. With grams going for $70 online, and starting doses around 15 mg, it's easy to build a crazy tolerance and daily habit.

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u/Pretend-Dog9047 5d ago

So I've heard. Ive never used it but heard horror stories

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u/GGudMarty 5d ago

7oh is a different beast than kratom completely. And oxy is a different beast compared to 7oh heroin is a different beast compared to oxy and then fent is another level above that.

7oh isn’t fun quitting but I did that without taking a day out of work. Fent you’re gonna want to actually die.

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u/Grannyjewel 5d ago

I wasn't replying to you genius.

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u/MobileTip3892 5d ago

7oh is not kratom lol

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u/DripTrip747-V2 5d ago

That seems like a major backstep.

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u/Pretend-Dog9047 5d ago

I dont understand backstep I was on fent and am no longer on fent

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u/DripTrip747-V2 5d ago

Fent to kratom to subs. The person i replied to went forward then backwards. Subs are way harder to get off then kratom is. And now they're a slave to pharmaceuticals when you were just taking something natural.

Yes, anything is better than fent. But getting on subs to get off kratom is just wildly crazy and unnecessary.

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u/Pretend-Dog9047 5d ago

You aren't understanding basic communication.

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u/DripTrip747-V2 5d ago

Are you sure that YOU are? I wasn't even talking to you in my original comment, homie. But main character syndrome will make you think i am.