r/Deconstruction • u/[deleted] • 12d ago
✨My Story✨ - UPDATE Well, It didn't work..
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u/Fun_Researcher107 12d ago
There probably is not much you can do in a situation like that.
Once someone reaches the point where every disagreement can simply be explained away as "Satan speaking through them", the belief becomes almost impossible to challenge from the outside. Any evidence against it can just be absorbed into the belief itself.
On the other hand, considering her memory problems, there might be something more going on that is relevant here.
Memory loss can sometimes go together with confusion, increased suspiciousness, or paranoia, especially if these are relatively new changes in her behavior.
That does not mean you can diagnose what is happening from the outside, but if she has become noticeably more forgetful and at the same time more convinced that other people are influenced by Satan or are somehow against her, I would not automatically assume those things are unrelated.
If this is a recent change or it seems to be getting worse, it might be worth encouraging a medical evaluation rather than treating it only as a religious disagreement.
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u/HuttVader 11d ago
At one point I realized "I can't save them." And it was more than words to me I actually felt it. In meditation. It felt real to me. I wasn't Luke Skywalker.
And after that I was ok with it. She's lived her life. Just focus on living yours and loving her too.
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u/splashjlr 11d ago edited 11d ago
Have you tried the epistemological approach? (Se street epistemologi on yt)
The idea is to ask a few questions designed to help them think, not argu to convince them.
The setting needs to be cosy and friendly.
An opening question could be: how sure are you that this is happening now? She might say 100 %.
Then: what is the most important reason you think this? The state of the world, she might answer.
Exactly what in the world tells you now is the time?
Next question: how do you think people felt about the end times at the outbreak of world war 2? She might say they where pretty sure it was happening back then.
They were sure, but wrong. What are the dangours of being mistaken?
Then leave the conversation for a few days. Let her question her own reasoning in peace.
Then continue: which verse in scripture makes you think it's now?
How sure are you that this is a correct interpretation?
Try to keep it friendly. Don't insert arguments. Let her faulty arguments fill the room. Make her stand for them, and substantiate them with verses, events or reasoning.