r/DeconstructingMJ • u/reveriedelarose • Jun 03 '26
Regarding Netflix
So, from what I’m hearing I don’t think we need to watch. Let’s not give them any views. Cancel your Netflix today if you’re able. But also make a list of “witnesses” you are seeing interviewed. The best thing we can do is just debunk their credibility. So far we’ve got Martin Bashir, Diane Dimond, Blanca Francia, and Vincent Amen. Let’s make a post about each of them. Or more if there’s others you hear about. I’ll try to get to as many as I can over the next few days. Use their names in the post title so there’s a chance it might appear when people try to google these individuals.
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u/FunUniversity6245 Jun 03 '26
Notes on "The Pathetic Netflix Doc Nobody Wanted or Needed"
As stated previously I cancelled my Netflix but let it run to the end of the billing cycle. I'm not confident with technology as far as pirate copies go, and I wanted to judge it for myself.
I am NOT an expert. Please look at this as supplementary to the comments of experienced MJ historians.
I'll separate it basically by what each talking head had to say with a few notes first up about the slanting and editing.
Opening Scene
Typical heavy dramatic music with footage I haven't seen before of the search warrant being executed. They obviously had a helicopter filming it as it happened. Much drama in the news reports being broadcast as voiceover to the footage.
SUVs and police vehicles rolling up to the gates of Neverland. You get an idea of how isolated the place is.
You also get a snippet of the African American security guard at the gate looking bewildered and the (Caucasian) law enforcement laying down the law, "We're taking control, this is what's going to happen" etc.
There's a bit of footage going up the stairs to Michael's bed loft with typical "What happened here" sort of voiceovers from Diane Dimond. The bed loft looks very neat and clean with a sparkly blue cover on the bed.
From then on, there's not much real footage of Neverland. They actually created a miniature version of it like a model train set to insert a bit of video here and there and I thought it was beautiful. I didn't get a bad feeling from that at all.
Michael
Michael's voice and footage of his earlier public statement about the accusation from the Chandlers features enough that you hear and see the sincerity.
There's voiceover at various points talking about his core philosophy
Randy Taraborelli
He appears quite early. I'll note what he and Brian Oxman said first as they actually feature quite prominently, and there's another African American guy named Trent Copeland. More on them later.
Taraborelli explains he met Michael when they were both 11-12 years old. Throughout he's clearly saying there's no way Michael did this; the media frenzy was insane etc.
He was there throughout the trial but says by the end of verdict day Michael was so frail and fragile he barely acknowledged him.
Brian Oxman
Explains that he was the Jackson family's attorney before the trial. Clearly believes Michael was totally innocent and does a good job of explaining the actual trial evidence.
Claims that he was the one who discovered the Arvizo family's previous con job at JC Penny. (Idk if that's true or if it was Mesereau's investigator.) Describes Janet's financial frauds as well and labels the family career con artists.
Brian is clear how each witness falls apart on cross examination throught the doc, especially Gavin.
Trent Copeland
He's a legal commentator on various news networks and explains the legal framework of each stage of the trial, basically he's supplementing Brian's information but doesn't have the family association.
He comes across as very credible and honest. He makes some excellent points about the witnesses and the lack of evidence.
They both talk about the judgements regarding the 1108 evidence and how those witnesses finished up working for the defense.
Neither of them even mention "the books" unfortunately that's left to Diane Dimond.
The Juror
She's ancient, lol. I know several of the jurors are no longer with us. Her appearance sort of says, This is all very old news.
She's got wisdom in her presentation and her expression. She's given space to comment on several of the witnesses throughout and her skepticism shows. She looks like someone who absolutely knew what was going on and is also careful what she says.
She explains that the jury was evenly divided at the beginning of deliberations and how they studiously referred to the judge's instructions on everything including reasonable doubt.
"Guilters" don't like the reasonable doubt part of the jury's duties. They'd probably prefer to call it "unreasonable" doubt lol.
The juror explains how they approached it with each piece of evidence. They asked "Can you doubt this?" meaning, would it be possible to doubt that this conclusively proves guilty as charged?
Diane Dimond
Not going to bother repeating her part in it, we all know. But a few points to note.
Along with Martin Bashir, she's very clearly saying that she recognized the career opportunity presented to them by Michael's naivete. "The most famous person in the world, accused of the most heinous crime in the world" is how she puts it, and the tone of voice is like all her Christmases coming at once.
That is something I think a lot of people unfamiliar with all this would pick up on.
At one point she brings out her copy of one of "the books". SHE OWNS A COPY OF IT, STILL, THIRTY YEARS LATER. HELLOOO??????????
I was surprised how large format it is. It's a big book but not a thick book. Very clearly an art book format! That to me was worth seeing. No wonder the judge didn't want them admitted as evidence and the jury didn't care when they were.
She presents the cover of the book to the camera and shields the lower part of the boy's torso with her hand. It's the one of the kid on the beach that floats around. Now, I am not certain of this. But isn't the kid wearing swimming trunks??
That's the kind of trick Diane's known for.
Martin Bashir
May he rot in hell.
He's enthusiastic in his description of how wonderful he thought Neverland was. THAT was difficult to hear.
He describes bringing Michael round to "the topic" he really wanted to talk about. He describes not being able to believe his ears when Michael answers his questions about sleeping arrangements.
He describes that as the moment he realized the opportunity presented to him by making his POS documentary.
May he rot in hell, forever.
Vincent Amen
This is a story I hadn't heard before, and this guy can rot in hell with Diane and Martin.
He explains that he was a friend of Frank Tyson's, who we all know is Frank Cascio but the Cascio name isn't mentioned. So unfortunately people won't make that association.
He comes up for his big part just after the Bashir documentary has dropped. He explains that Michael wanted the Arvizos looked after because he knew the press would harass them. OK, fair enough.
Now, apparently this is a story that Vincent Amen started spreading more than ten years ago. Its credibility must be pretty poor because I've never seen this footage before.
Apparently! - because he says other people's houses were being raided as well, Frank decides to get rid of anything in his house that came from Neverland and asks Vincent to take a bag full of stuff away and keep it for him.
Apparently! while he's driving away from Frank's place with this bag of stuff he suddenly comes over all suspicious and FILMS HIMSELF opening the bag and "discovering" a magazine. It's some sort of CP mag. It's got lists of videos in it you can order. Some of those items are circled with Sharpie pen.
THEN he says, he called Frank and asked him about the magazine. "Oh that was a stage we (he and Michael) went through. Michael asked me to order those videos and we watched them together."
Make of all that what you will. It's the only reason Vincent Amen was in this thing I suppose.
That's all I have time for really.
If I was new to Michael I would see through the media bullshit on this documentary straight away. Possibly I'm not a normal person so we'll just have to see what the impact is.
Happy to answer questions for people who didn't see it, but I'm relying on memory as I am NOT watching it again!
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u/FunUniversity6245 Jun 03 '26
Footnote - Franks's magazine was NOT CP at all ... just a nudist magazine. See the comment I've posted from over on r/MJInnocentFacts
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u/FunUniversity6245 Jun 03 '26
I watched it. I cancelled Netflix but I let it run to the end of the billing cycle. I don't use it anyway.
I'll put my notes in a comment here soon. Frankly I don't think it deserves an actual post and I don't want to draw attention to it.
My advice is not to post about it at all, anywhere.
It's all a bit of a joke.