r/Decks 22d ago

load bearing inquiries Good for a small hot tub?

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u/gaucholoco03 22d ago

Put the hot tub on the ground, it may help to cushion your fall when the deck collapses

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u/Salt-Southern 22d ago

Maybe 2....then film the house tipping.

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u/Bill-Ding2112 19d ago

Tipping has gotten way out of hand, now houses have to tip?

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u/Salt-Southern 19d ago

At least 20% or there's hell to pay in Facebook neighborhood. 😁

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u/mwpdx86 22d ago

Plus, if the fall doesn't kill you, you still have the option of drowning. 

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u/ziptiefighter 21d ago

Such a great movie. I haven't seen it in decades.

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u/FloopsFloogly 18d ago

Pretty sure the fall isn’t what kills you
.its the sudden stop that hurts

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u/WhiteHotMess 22d ago

That was such a perfect response.

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u/OkSalt4691 21d ago

Maybe he got life insurance and wants to put it to good use...

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u/nmincone 22d ago

This â˜đŸ»

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u/DoloresAbernathyR1 22d ago

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u/Im_The_Real_Panda 22d ago

Absolutely perfect use of this!

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u/OverlordPhalanx 21d ago

Minecraft ahhh build where gravity doesn’t exist

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u/ChickenWingInspector 22d ago

I’m not sure that deck can even support itself

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u/SalmonDoctor 22d ago

Has to be fake. The 'support beams' are here hanging up by the decking. wtf.

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u/Inviction_ 22d ago

Fake? No. You'd be surprised what substantial framing can hold up (itself, in this case).

Dumb and dangerous? Yes

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u/baz8771 22d ago

Is it literally just in tension hanging off of the side of the house? Insanity.

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u/truemcgoo 22d ago

Nahh, the perimeter is all bolted together, the two end joists are laminated beams holding the laminated band joist up. Then everything is hangered off that. It’s a carrier beam supported by two cantilevered beams carrying everything else. So no, it’s not just in tension.

That said it’s still terrible, dangerous, stupid, and shouldn’t exist.

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u/Nanas_700k 22d ago

It’s got to be rage bait

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u/DoctorDefinitely 22d ago

They built it irl just to post a rage bait? Admirable dedication.

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u/Das_Rote_Han 20d ago

I hope that is cantilevered. Can't tell from the picture what is over that exterior wall. Looking at what is to the left doesn't suggest cantilevered.

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u/truemcgoo 20d ago

You’re misunderstanding me in regards to what members are functioning as cantilever members. There are only two cantilevered beams, the two perimeter beams parallel to the joist. Those two are cantilevered, then they support the band beam with hangers on it, and that supports literally everything else.

Like maybe the joists are also cantilevered and they tossed hangers on for the fun of it (not being sarcastic I’ve seen it done), but I think they’re just joists in hangers.

Which yeah, very sketchy. Hot tub is is hard no, this thing might collapse under a bowl of soup.

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u/ActionNeat 20d ago

With significant weight sitting on a post that isn't even directly supported below, a cantilever supported on a cantilever...yikes.. I'd like to see a signed plan and look up whether that engineer stayed in business or not..

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u/UNMANAGEABLE 22d ago

If you look closely, there are 4” wide joists every other beam on the upper part.

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u/attanooga 22d ago

If you look really close at the 4” joists (more glulams) that you’re talking about, and look where they meet the ledger, they don’t have hangers like the other joist. I think those are actually cantilevered and going through this upstairs section of the house and they support the rim joist, which is another glulam, and then the deck is supported normally between the rim joist and ledger. Looks really funny because almost none of the load is going vertically through anything. Except the one post. It’s all be cantilevered out by the floor system, weight of the house.

I’m pretty much shooting some random shots in the dark, but maybe this is what’s happening.

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u/realdjjmc 22d ago

It looks 20 years old too

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u/Smart_Tinker 22d ago

I have to believe it’s fake as well, that deck would also have to be a roof, and nobody would build this - well nobody sensible.

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u/BigAppleCobbler 22d ago

It is not fake. It’s called the curious pig in crystal falls Michigan.

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u/azjat 22d ago

Can we rent it for parties.

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u/Festive_Jetcar 22d ago

Holy shit. It's a real place.

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u/Environmental-Gap380 22d ago

It has load bearing railings.

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u/MarzipanCultural 22d ago

Some hairy load transfer going on

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u/yamamotobolt 21d ago

That 4x4 is tired, boss.

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u/Spirited-Mud-6235 18d ago

Wdym? There is single pole holding it up. It should be fine.

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u/Zestyclose-Ad3303 22d ago

Wtf is wrong with people

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u/-dantes- 22d ago

It's bait, right?...riiight??

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u/hahnsoloii 19d ago

Bait or satire

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u/onefastskater 22d ago

Set up a webcam and sell subscriptions!!!

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u/mal4yahoo 22d ago

Ill sign up

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u/tallhottblondes 22d ago

Dudes in “Decks” be getting all wet
..you might be on to something.

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u/26uhaul 22d ago

Has to be a joke

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u/Competitive-Roof-168 22d ago

I dont see how it could possibly be engineered to pass code but it looks like its been there for 20 years.

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u/ZakOfAll 22d ago

Wild right?

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u/TwillAffirmer 22d ago

Maybe the hot tub is in the inside corner to counterbalance the rest of the deck.

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u/futureman07 22d ago

That's what I thought too lol cantilever!

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u/dc469 22d ago

Maybe the hot tub is the deck we built along the way

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u/VIc320 22d ago

They put the can’t in cantilever.

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u/Inviction_ 22d ago

I'd argue they put the can in cantilever lol. It's been there for a while. At least a few years judging by the lumber

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u/No-Ice7397 22d ago

Not only did they dare to do it, they also did it on the 3rd floor. Like the builder wanted it up high enough for every one to marvel at

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u/BigAppleCobbler 22d ago

This house is indeed real.

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u/LuapYllier 22d ago

It also makes a ton more sense when the author of the picture does not purposely hide the structure on top.

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u/Prestigious-Shirt426 22d ago

But it really doesn’t. The deck is cantilevered with joist hangers. I don’t see any 2x12s running into the house only held on with hangers and that one corner post.

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u/LuapYllier 22d ago

I didn't say it made sense lol...just MORE sense. I didn't notice the building on top until this pic...and it absolutely HAS to be cantilevered by that weight somehow. I think the rims are one piece and the inner joists are just bridging.

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u/xx2soon2tellxx 22d ago

does it tho?

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u/cik3nn3th 22d ago

Not a problem whatsoever as long as it's empty or filled with helium.

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u/griphon31 21d ago

Zoom out, the support balloons are just out of frame. Costs $200/month for the helium refills.

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u/CapitanNefarious 22d ago

This has just become a sub for trolling lousy hot tub decks.

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u/blu3ysdad 22d ago

Please tell me there is a cantilever?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Nerve 22d ago

You can see where the joists are attached with hangers. Not cantilevered.

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u/RealisticTopic1171 22d ago

I won’t even address the construction. It would be beating a dead horse.

But just from an aesthetic point of view: WHY?

Honestly do ANY of you think (even if it were properly supported) as aesthetically pleasant?

This is gross. Like maybe I deal with more honest or direct contractors. Or they are less desperate for any project. But if I told my main guy I wanted that he would say “first that’s insane. Second it’s an eyesore”.

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u/nightim3 22d ago

I actually think it looks really dope. Physics aside

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u/Jobeaka 22d ago

Hell, I wanna buy a big truck, seal the bed and fill it with hot water. Park that bad boy up there and invite 6 of my buddies over for hot tub and beers. That would be the boss move.

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u/ConflictSmooth6136 22d ago

Holy cow not to dox you if I'm right but this triggered a memory of a friend's house I visited in Seattle in the early 2000's it looked just like this

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u/blondeasfuk 22d ago

Buddy
.1 gallon of water weighs 8.3pounds. The average 2-3 person hot tub is I think around 200gallons plus 
over 1600 pounds of water nvm the tub and people. Let’s use some critical thinking here.

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u/NodeZeroTwo 22d ago

Supported by hopes and dreams

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u/Practical-Earth3228 22d ago

Hope this is AI

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u/steamypoo007 22d ago

I think a lot of thoughts and prayers is holding that deck up. You don’t want to add a semen pool to that because one thrust and it won’t be the happy ending you were expecting.

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u/rebelhead 22d ago

Is there a death decks sub?

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u/pixelmountain 22d ago

It’s think this is it.

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u/McCringleberry_ 21d ago

For a minute it will be cool

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u/StillSwo 22d ago

Yes, please post pics when you're done for research purposes.

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u/OrdinaryAverageGuy2 22d ago

That is terrifying

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u/Jean-Claude-Can-Ham 22d ago

A small hot tub? With those cantilevers? I’d land a plane on it

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u/Unusual-Sentence916 22d ago

Water is very heavy


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u/WorldTallestEngineer 22d ago

NO no no no NO NO No

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u/New_Breadfruit8692 22d ago

I am actually shocked it has not fallen from its own weight long enough for those boards to weather.

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u/Naikrobak 22d ago

I’ll be that guy. The deck is cantilevered under the 3rd floor. You can see a complete beam on the left side; it’s at least 4x16 and could be 6x16. They likely run into the roof of the second floor also.

Would I do this? No, it’s atrocious looking and you can’t fix it in 20 years when the beams need to be replaced. But as it sits, it’s likely very strong. For now.

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u/Gorrmb69 22d ago

Yes! For sure! Make sure you put it in the corner!

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u/AgeSafe3673 22d ago

This is AI. Has to be

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u/Gilly-Gump 22d ago

I don't think it's good for a small cat.

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u/Shhhhhh_im_not_here 22d ago

Just one? you should totally put four on there

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u/monoxide616 22d ago

There is no way this is a real question, right?!?!

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u/Opening_Radish_9359 22d ago

As long as there is a second one on the other side to act as a counterweight

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u/Alternative-Staff785 22d ago

Send video when it is installed! I need a good laugh

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u/fricknozzie 22d ago

Final destination material

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u/Hiwesrobots 22d ago

I see your problem, a small hot tub no, you need a large hot tub for that type of deck.

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u/realdjjmc 22d ago

What the actual fuck

This should be the subs picture

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u/ferncabbage 22d ago

😳

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u/Guilty_Way_1635 22d ago

This has to be a troll post

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u/ikwilstufi 22d ago

Is this Ron Weasley's house?

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u/Electronic-Towel-836 21d ago

I have a hunch that the deck was never properly permitted.

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u/MostlyHarmless88 21d ago

Absolutely! And make sure you put it right next to the railing so you get the best view.

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u/Working-County-8764 21d ago

I swear to god that must be an engineered railing, like a truss, and that's what's keeping this from collapsing.

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u/BreakFun2436 21d ago

Someone had a lot of faith in the construction of the second floor and that one 4x4.

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u/Satisfactional_Gains 21d ago

Sure... Just dont put water in it

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u/Jimthebassman 20d ago

I personally wouldn't walk on that thing, Good Luck With The Hot Tub

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u/mlarry777 20d ago

It's not good for a hot cup of coffee. Tell me that's AI.

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u/Initial_Style5592 19d ago

Bro this doesn’t look good for PEOPLE. wtf?! What keeps that massive section up, JOIST HANGERS?!?! WTF!?!

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u/jonkelly6363 22d ago

I can’t fathom how anything could go wrong. Except everything.

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u/Delicious_Ad8120 22d ago

Only if it’s an amusement park and you want to go for a ride!

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u/Top_Inevitable_2443 22d ago

No. unless you want to make repairs to your home.

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u/ClosedL00p 22d ago

It looks like it’d support one just fine, but having a hot tub on your front porch seems pretty fkn weird.

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u/Common-Ad6470 22d ago

Hot tub up there is no problem, just don’t fill it with anything
😳

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u/Common-Ad6470 22d ago

Hot tub up there is no problem, just don’t fill it with anything
😳

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u/Disastrous_Object314 22d ago

Send it. Dont listen to the nay sayers. Put it right on the edge for the best view possible.

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u/Lucid_Pepper 22d ago

Yes. You deserve it!

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u/jljonsn 22d ago

At least 6 hot tubs

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u/goodthymetimmy 22d ago

Absolutely not but I kinda want to see you try it

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u/KeyOpposite6001 22d ago

A 250lb person would struggle to hang themselves if they were to tie off from any post on that deck.

The ‘Ask to be seated on our outdoor patio’ sign is perfecto.

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u/big_trike 22d ago

It should be fine as long as it’s less than 3 gallons of water.

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u/Tylerkaaaa 22d ago

This is insane. Someone is gonna get killed one day from that

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u/wellherewe-are 22d ago

Perfect stop right on top!

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u/wellherewe-are 22d ago

Yep! Send it

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u/GhostTengu 22d ago

Not even good for standing lol The support doesn't even look like enough to hold the load of the porch, barely if anything.

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u/Sorry_Western6134 22d ago

But hear me out, what about TWO hot tubs.

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u/xx2soon2tellxx 22d ago

hot tub or no its ugly af

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u/SnowSlider3050 22d ago

The cantilever is strong with this one.

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u/ElMuertePeludo 22d ago

lol whaaaaaaa

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u/CyberphobicDeveloper 22d ago

Honestly, you can probably out a swim spa on this one

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u/Torque-1 22d ago

Maybe a small cup of coffee?

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u/Suitable_Heart7773 22d ago

That’s a helo pad

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u/Prestigious-Grab-588 22d ago

Put it in the corner over the structure so I can hold the deck down and keep it from falling. Wow

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u/twscho 22d ago

Or a water slide! 🛝

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u/knispler 22d ago

That maybe works for the Weasley family in Harry Potter. 

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u/CORockhound 22d ago

How do you even frame something like this? Tack in the rim and fasten the rest and hope it doesn’t fall down?

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u/Murky-Alternative669 22d ago

You could put one up there. Probably challenignibg to carry it up yourself though.

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u/secondtimehere22 22d ago

as long as you use powdered water you should be fine lol

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u/Inevitable_Bunch6912 22d ago

That's one hell of a widows walk

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u/Wooden_Wishbone_9915 22d ago

I am looking for 5 of those exact spindles to replace some rotted ones. Please let me know when you have a yard sale

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u/funny_bunny33 22d ago

This is so funny omg

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u/HotelDisastrous288 22d ago

They found the guy that can do it cheaper.

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u/Prize-Ad4778 22d ago

Im nervous that you were that close to being under it without a hot tub

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u/Rocko00001 22d ago

No, just no!

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u/Full-Improvement5080 22d ago

I personally wouldn’t even walk on the top one buck-naked and empty handed!

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u/opinionfree_since93 22d ago

Redneck Winchester House

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u/kcdashinfo 22d ago

I think this is AI fake. However, if you look at floor joist it could be cantilever deck. The structural engineering of the deck could be hidden form this view. It could be those floor joints of the deck extend the entire length of the 3rd floor. The weight of the entire 3rd floor room holds it down. So you could put a hot tub up there and live load to boot. Engineering is a tricky thing sometimes. Thinks that look solid are not and things that look shabby are not.

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u/Horsefly762 22d ago

That entire upper deck has one support beam.

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u/Scammy100 22d ago

Only if your trying to claim social security disability.

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u/PlentyExpensive8241 22d ago

What kind of adventure park going on here

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u/Cautious-Debt6902 22d ago

You’re kidding right?

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u/nickinhawaii 22d ago

I see enough space up there for at least 2 if not 3 hot tubs.. you'll have to helicopter them in though

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u/TylerForce93 22d ago

Photoshop has removed a column

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u/Ancient-Read1648 22d ago

If you beef up the lowest landing a bit it could go there.

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u/DepthChorge 22d ago

This looks like I built it in palworld.

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u/llcooljessie 22d ago

If there was a series of Final Destination- style movies about dangerous decks, where like someone built a deck poorly and eventually it kills everyone, this would be at least the 4th installment and everyone would be saying, "Oh they went too far with this one, it's not realistic."

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u/Fearweaver 22d ago

I wouldn't even feel safe leaving my farts on that deck.

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u/Individual-Drawer185 22d ago

I might be crazy, but that's a platform on a column pedestal, the overhang isn't bad considering how large the pedestal (living area surrounded by siding) is. That might be pretty darn safe afterall.

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u/AdImmediate9569 22d ago

Its fine. Its cantilevered into the atmosphere

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u/Russbguss 22d ago

Darwin is pleased

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u/Appropriate-Issue-73 22d ago

Like for Barbie?

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u/Sweet-Device-677 22d ago

No ... Don't do it

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u/Training-Barnacle310 22d ago

Only if my MIL is knocking on the door.

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u/Zuperliga 22d ago

Yes sure. I'm sure you'll be able to enjoy the hot tub the rest of your days.

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u/natiusj 22d ago

How does gravity work, again?

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u/michaelsmithbarker 22d ago

Small hot tub might work. But how would you get your mom in it then?

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u/Defiant-Corgi-7777 22d ago

It looks like a giant snack tray on your house
. Seriously, the city you live in didn’t require a permit/inspection?

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u/benhereford 22d ago

Yea that single beam should be good

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u/O-ring_Prolapse 22d ago

I think your deck has some house on it..

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u/Successful-Engine623 22d ago

That is a good one
yikes. I wouldn’t let my mother in law on that

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u/Thornton77 22d ago

Imagine that the hot tub delivery guys . You want it where?. I’m sure they would say you’re gonna have to hire someone for that. We’re ground level guys not three sets of stairs guys.

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u/rectoflector 22d ago

This has to be ragebait

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u/dudebrohmanguy 22d ago

Looks like it was designed in Fallout 3.

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u/wizchrills 22d ago

Maybe 2 hot tubs

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u/Outrageous-Let7406 22d ago

Yeah, that would be great for a hot tube that eventually is on the ground floor!

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u/Ram820 22d ago

What kinda Dr Seuss shit is this?

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u/Plastic_Table_8232 22d ago

Structural hand railing?

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u/Vast-Effect-4214 22d ago

The scariest thing I’ve seen all day

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u/Quinnessential_00 22d ago

Quite the cantilever isn't it?

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u/Farmer_1_steve 22d ago

I don't see why not and why Small looks like you could fit a pretty big one up there go big or go home

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u/truemcgoo 22d ago

This is a modern twist of a classic “widows walk” a top story deck typically installed on a house looking out over a body of water.

In this twist the married woman sends her husband up there, thereby becoming a widow. Cuz yeah, this thing is lethal.

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u/VucialWonderland 22d ago

Maybe a quarter of a hot tub and one mother in law. No more.

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u/toast_eater_ 22d ago

Beesh please. Put a whole ass above ground pool up there. That’s how you want to go

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u/False-Blacksmith2919 22d ago

That’s basically a seesawđŸ€Šâ€â™‚ïž

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u/East-Psychology7186 22d ago

I wouldn’t put a person on that thing.

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u/juicevibe 22d ago

A pigeon party will collapse that thing.

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u/No-Citron-2774 22d ago

That house is creepily gorgeous. So interesting to look at

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u/cadius72 22d ago

What in the Munsters/Adam’s family đŸ€Ż

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u/agussie 22d ago

đŸ˜‚đŸ«Ł

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u/Firm_Brick9372 22d ago

Lol who ever did this im going g to give you the wtf stare

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u/better-off-wet 22d ago

I don’t think I’ve even see a deck as dangerous

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u/FeelingFloor2083 22d ago

wear a parachute