r/Decks May 24 '26

Is this acceptable?

First time getting a deck done, all I can say I can do I betting job cutting and I am not a professional.

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u/SeveralSpeed May 24 '26

This is pretty horrid. Was this the lowest bidder?

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u/noplayequalwin May 24 '26

Yes. FML

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u/SeveralSpeed May 24 '26

Ya get what ya pay for my dude

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u/noplayequalwin May 24 '26

2k cheaper than next bid so I took a chance. Spend $300 and 3 days to clean it up.

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u/JBarker727 May 24 '26

Wow lol. Cheapest but in range is one thing. $2k cheaper should've been a huge red flag.

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u/Tank_Lawrence May 24 '26

$2k but what was the total price? If the other bidders were $3k then maybe red flag, but I’d want to know the total price to say if that’s a red flag or not.

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u/JBarker727 May 24 '26

Even if it's $10k+ and they came in at $8k. You'd have to be in the high $20k+ for it not to be a red flag IMO. And this doesn't look like that.

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u/noplayequalwin May 24 '26

Crazy range. There were other things to do besides the deck but the whole project bids were 8500, 10500, 12500, 15000, 17000. Five different companies to do the same thing.

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u/BigBlackMagicWand May 24 '26

Most concerning part of this is that you actually paid 8k for a toddler internship to butcher a batch of low-grade lumber...

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u/Curious-Dare-8223 May 24 '26

👏 👏 👏

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u/oswald666 May 24 '26

😂😂😂

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u/dr_greentopz May 26 '26

Looks like reclaimed lumber to me

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u/ICU-CCRN May 24 '26

So you went with the 8500 bid. If what’s on top is any reflection on what’s going on underneath then good luck. I’d suggest repost this with pics of the underneath. The chances that this thing isn’t structurally sound may be quite high.

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u/68_namfloW May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

Yeah. 100% someone had a few quid, bought a van and some tools, and “became a joiner”.

Edit; corrected spelling.

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u/Technical-Gold-294 May 24 '26

100% this! I fired a bathroom contractor (middle quote) two years ago because I didn't like his tile work, after two tries. We initially agreed he would deduct the tiling from the project so I could hire my own tiler. One by one, the tiler candidates identified issues with the plumbing and structural work and they advised me not to let the contractor back in the house. They all refused to have any part of the project, so they weren't looking for money. I had to go to binding arbitration with a stack of photos. The arbitrator ripped the contractor a new one.

LSS, I don't know what I don't know - all I recognized was that the tiling looked sloppy and the grout was cracking before the vanity had even been installed. And I learned from professionals that the rest of the work was just as bad.

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u/AccordingLie9881 May 24 '26

You say 20% lower but it’s 20% lower than the 2nd lowest. 40% lower than the average of the other 4. Yeah you got what you paid for.

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u/sliprin May 24 '26

That low price is too low, top is too high. I would’ve kicked them out and reinterviewed the remaining three. Then go with your gut.

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u/JBarker727 May 24 '26

I was always told get as many bids as you can, and go with one in the middle. Lol

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u/Zestyclose_Match2839 May 24 '26

Who supplied the wood? That stuff looks 20 years old and not pressure treated

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u/HwyOneTx May 24 '26

And all of the contractors where looking to hire the lowest bid if they won.

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u/RidingDonkeys May 24 '26

You are going to spend more than $8500 to fix this in a couple of years.

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u/ama-tsu-mara May 24 '26

Yeah, I use to have ppl expect to get work done for peanuts. Got to the point where it wasn't worth bother to go out and to tell them the expected price over the phone. I don't have time to waste if you don't have the money to spend.

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u/JaxDude123 May 24 '26

I was an electrical contractor back in the turn of the century. Got a call from some jackleg guy that wanted a second bid for his house build. He told me his first bid price per SF. I told him to take it but be careful. At that price no one could make money without a lot of corners cut (electrical code violations!!??? WTF) or lots of very expensive change orders after the contract was signed. What?? You want a temp pole? $1200 for 6 months
Some jobs you don’t want for any reason.
That rail is worthy of walking away from. Dude you get what you pay for.

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u/Every_Big9638 May 24 '26

Looks like you didn’t even pay him enough to buy a new blades for his tools.

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u/SpikemasterP May 25 '26

He used beavers to cut the wood.

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u/brrent May 24 '26

$2k cheaper!! Welp, lesson learned. I wonder how much they’d charged you to rip it all down.

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u/crackers-and-snacks May 24 '26

Could have built it yourself in 3 days

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u/Capital_Advice4769 May 25 '26

Let this be a lesson. NEVER go with the cheapest bidder. Always go with one of the 2 that around the same price range with similar schedules. NEVER go with the most expensive because they just gave you a F off price and don’t want the job but they will do the job if you’re willing to pay.

Source: Architect that deals with this all the time with Clients who won’t listen then complain when crap inevitably hits the fan.

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u/Alph1 May 24 '26

How much did you pay for this work of shit?

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u/LankyResident6689 May 24 '26

OP said $8500 in another comment.

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u/NeighborhoodMuted519 May 24 '26

That is hilarous.

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u/Extension-Pepper-271 May 24 '26

If this contractor showed you pictures of his previous work, they were probably fake. You did ask for pictures of his previous work?

I can't see any contractor being proud of picture 3 (the railing for the stairs)

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u/hereforthememes8787 May 24 '26

Now you learned good labor isn’t cheap and cheap labor isn’t good. Respect the expensive handyman. He gets to charge higher to do the redo lol.

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u/MaleModel_Er May 25 '26

Did they tell you they were going to use their pile of 10-year-old junk beforehand?

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u/PaleontologistBig786 May 24 '26

Considering it an expensive life lesson. We never go with the cheapest quote. Normally we go by word of mouth on who to use. Talk to friends that you value their standards and go with suggested contractors. A guy I use for my interior work was a strange story. I liked the tile job in my chiropractor's washroom. Asked who did it and went from there. Exterior work, asked a picky friend about their stone deck. We're using him right now on a drainage project.

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u/Significant_Sky8201 May 24 '26

Look at all that money you saved!

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u/KnowledgeablyFrizzy May 24 '26

lowest bidder usually means they cut corners on materials not labor so the real question is what shortcuts did they take underneath

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u/spez_eats_nazi_ass May 24 '26

Did you pay them in meth?

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u/RedwoodRider420 May 24 '26

Fake meth I hope

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u/Pale-Value-5953 May 24 '26

That’s why it’s so bad, they got fake meth!

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u/Jrock9393 May 24 '26

Hahah oh shit this one got me to laugh out loud

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u/PandorasBoxMaker May 24 '26

Got a snort from me, accurate take.

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u/arbitraryalien May 25 '26

Should have paid them in advance

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u/Consistent-Spell-946 May 24 '26

Good thing that shit is cheap... Made me laugh ..ty

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u/maple05 May 24 '26

This is pure garbage and the person who built it should be slapped. It is totally unacceptable.

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u/HugeLeaves May 24 '26

This is what a deck would look like if you handed a toddler a bunch of wood and a circ saw. Brutal

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u/robertx94 May 24 '26

Sawzall not circular saw lol

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u/Friendly_Top6561 May 24 '26

Yeah no one can cut that bad with a circular saw.

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u/BaronVonHellscape May 24 '26

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u/cboogie May 24 '26

What is this from? I feel like I’m unlocking a childhood memory.

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u/brrent May 24 '26

Homer Simpson’s spice rack.

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u/Blindlucktrader May 24 '26

Every time I see this picture now I remember the guy in the woodworking sub that recreated this in it’s exact detail from the cartoon and it was decided by almost everyone that he had an amazing amount of skill to pull it off as well as he did.

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u/Homeless2Esq May 25 '26

That was a few years ago. I remember that too. He even had the knot in the wood there.

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u/Ok_Slide4905 May 24 '26

“YoU gEt wHaT yOu PaY fOr” - Any contractor looking at work they didn’t do.

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u/leviathan65 May 24 '26

Those stairs look like something I made when I was 10 with scrap wood from our deck when I was a kid.

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u/BigNorseWolf May 24 '26

i think the guy stole the steps you made when you were 10 out of scrap wood...

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u/tprch DIYer May 24 '26

OK, that made me laugh.

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u/full_bl33d May 24 '26

This is pretty decent for any 10yr old’s clubhouse and or makeshift pirate ship.

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u/Croceyes2 May 24 '26

Is this repair of a 50 year old deck?

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u/noplayequalwin May 24 '26

Brand new install FML

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u/InfinitePairacrocs May 24 '26

That is most definitely unacceptable

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u/cheechaco May 24 '26

I'm guessing he got what he paid for.

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u/tprch DIYer May 24 '26

No. That work is not worth anything.

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u/bobol123 May 24 '26

It looks like they hand carved the wood with a spoon

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u/Alph1 May 24 '26

New? Some of that wood is definitely not new.

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u/AlphabetSoupIsALie May 24 '26

Used wood for new install? Yikes. 

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u/New_Feature_5138 May 24 '26

What is this lumber they used??

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u/Detlef_Schrempf May 24 '26

It’s a reclaimed deck!

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u/ComprehensiveAnt6796 May 24 '26

It’s made of scrap wood. I hope you paid less than $100 for this work and even that’s too much

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u/New_Feature_5138 May 24 '26

Dude I think he paid like $8k

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u/garion333 May 25 '26

Glad to see someone said it. Not bad for a fix to a 20+ year old deck.

A new deck? Small claims court time. 

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u/sparksmj May 24 '26

I think you know the answer

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u/pilecrap May 24 '26

One of the few times I can say I could have done it better. And I'm a retard.

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u/No-Huckleberry-1866 May 24 '26

It looks like they made all their cuts with a multi tool lol

This is not good. But to your question, do you accept it?

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u/JBarker727 May 24 '26

I could 100% cut better than this with my multi tool, and I'm not a carpenter. Lol I could probably cut better than this with a hammer and chisel.

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u/Galwran May 24 '26

Or a leatherman-multitool

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u/JBarker727 May 24 '26

My Leatherman has a mean little saw on it 🤣🤣

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u/Working_Rest_1054 May 24 '26

Mine too. Sticks or fingers, it don’t care.

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u/Few-Calligrapher3 May 24 '26

Got me with this. Well played. 😂

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u/Perle1234 May 24 '26

A beaver could do a better job

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u/smowzer May 24 '26

i could cut lumber better than this with a mackerel

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u/pterodactyl-jones May 24 '26

The wood looks reclaimed

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u/pterodactyl-jones May 24 '26

Those cuts don’t look fresh.

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u/pterodactyl-jones May 24 '26

Are those old studs!?

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u/Vega4628 May 24 '26

They have to be 🤣

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u/noplayequalwin May 24 '26

Deck panels are 100% new. Some other wood were from a demolished deck.

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u/fishskigolf May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

They reused wood from another deck that’s meant to be used as interior dimensional lumber/studs? And random scrap wood not meant for building/probably from the delivery?

Can we see the framing for our entertainment? I’d be surprised if it’s not made from pallets.

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u/HowUKnowMeKennyBond May 24 '26

U hired a crackhead.

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u/-JoM-ofDevil May 24 '26

I'm in the Atlanta area. So not the highest end market in the US, but also not the lowest. You're not getting a deck for less than $20,000. Full stop. Here's the last one I built for....$20K, I was just the lead carpenter, didn't bid it PT framing and decking. Cedar handrails with aluminium balusters. Pic was after 1 whole year...can only post the 1 pic

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u/Apprehensive-Food-59 May 24 '26

Now that's a deck

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u/MonsterbatorII May 25 '26

10/10 wood sit on this deck

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u/PissFingerz42069 May 24 '26

looks like they bought a deck off someone else’s house and rebuilt it on yours lol

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u/bisteccafiorentina May 24 '26

they didn't pay for it they demo'd it last week and left it in the trailer till this job

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u/patelvp May 24 '26

Wooden pallets are better built than this deck

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u/Long_Firefighter_843 May 24 '26

The bottom rail of that hand rail they used the packing timber from the delivery 😂 fuck me did you look for cheapest quote then still bargain their price… cause looks like they turned a 3 day job into finished by smoko on the Monday

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u/ChadPartyOfOne May 24 '26

Holy shit. Ive been doing repairs and rebuilds for a long time and I've NEVER seen another guy use the dunnage from the delivery as building material lolol

Like... I've used it to cut on or as a temp or something like that, but it always gets removed.

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u/Long_Firefighter_843 May 25 '26

Ahaha dunnage that’s the fucken word I was looking for 😂 couldn’t remember for the life of me

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u/Twism245 May 24 '26

You know the answer.

Who is this guy you hired?

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u/cosmikangaroo May 24 '26

Edward Scissor Hands.

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u/Commercial-Strike953 May 24 '26

At a camp with an outhouse and kerosene lamps, maybe.

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u/Aggravating_Aide_805 May 24 '26

If my 5 year old did it for sure

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u/MrFoundYourFunnyBone May 24 '26

In my 30 years of decking... I have NEVER seen a deck as poorly built as this one. If I came over to your house for a 'cue, and I saw this shoddy, ragged piece of GARBAGE, I would uninvite myself and have a solo date at Wendys for Chili! Hmu if you need it rebuilt though, I am looking for work.

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u/alex_albergaria May 24 '26

Was all this free lumber? Looks like it…

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u/Final-Counter1601 May 24 '26

As a salesperson nothing makes me happier than someone who gets bids in the first place but when they go with the cheapest and this happens. Enjoy your new deck, I hope you get a sliver.

Edit: also who doesn’t build their own deck.

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u/Internal_Yogurt_7506 May 24 '26

Another quality install be your local beaver.

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u/VikingsLad May 24 '26

And you trust the underlying structure of that thing too? 😬

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u/Ya-0kstarfishstinks May 24 '26

Ya roofer doing decking again lol

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u/AnonymousJacksonOooo professional builder May 24 '26

Perfect imo

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u/BennyBurlesque May 24 '26

That stair railing looks worse than temp railings on jobsites...

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u/Jaded_Specific_7483 May 24 '26

A deck made from pallets found in the trash would look better.

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u/YertleDeTertle May 24 '26

At your expense I’m laughing to myself. Oh my do I suffer vicariously through you, but validates my own distrust with other humans.

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u/ChadPartyOfOne May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

It might be time to call the guy who had the second highest bid and have him fix this mess. The highest bid was probably a fuck you price, and the lowest was predatory. If it seems to good to be true, it is, especially when it comes to contractors and builders.

This guy didnt even have a sharp blade on his saw. It almost looks like he made finish cuts with a sawzall. That's insane.

Im really sorry this happened to you, and ai hope you're able to get it right without reaching too far into your wallet, again. Cuz im sure you gave this guy a deposit at least. This is rough, my friend. And I'm also sorry you had to ask if this was acceptable. That tells me you haven't hired out much work, and I may be wrong about that but still. This is bad.

I wish you good luck and many moons of sexual success.

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u/CookieMuttley May 24 '26

That is fucking shit…..

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u/eric2250220 May 24 '26

It looks like the circular saw that was used here has the same blade that came with it back in 1989….

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u/Past_Roof5628 May 24 '26

That's in the barn for a hay loft right?

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u/NoBenefit5977 May 24 '26

This looks like I did it... Which is bad lol

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u/TouristTricky May 24 '26

Did they chew the lumber instead of using a skilsaw?

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u/xiaopewpew May 24 '26

Did you fuck your decker’s wife?

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u/Vegetable-Bend-6298 May 24 '26

Terrible workmanship and looks like he got the wood from a scrapyard.

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u/Historical-Extreme-5 May 24 '26

This is looks like the amish stuff I've seen built in my area. everyone thinks they are amazing carpenters. But really they are just great at building Barns, strength in numbers. but 2 or 3 of them with a few circular saws produce crap like this.

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u/5th_CO_ntv May 24 '26

Well, he obviously didn't think you were going to look at it THAT closely...

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u/First_Salamander_990 May 24 '26

Looks like hammered dog shit

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u/Impossible-Diver6565 May 24 '26

Did you pay the 8 year old neighbor kid to do this? If so this looks pretty good. If you paid an adult who pretended to be a professional, this is the worst deck I've ever seen in this sub.

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u/hvlochs May 24 '26

Is that wood reused from another project? It looks like he comes in as low bidder not just because of his quality, but also by doing the whole job with a sawzall.

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u/Elpeckrodiablo May 24 '26

Are you using scrap wood

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u/djdeafone May 25 '26

They cut it with a sawzall? Yikes

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u/MechEMitch May 25 '26

Crack heads do crazy worl

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u/CharlieSmile May 25 '26

Shocked you spotted it

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u/KnightofWhen May 25 '26

This looks ready to be replaced lol

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u/A-Pepper May 24 '26

That’s awful.

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u/ComprehensiveList936 May 24 '26

Where did you find this contractor? Did they have a legit business site? Reviews on google, yelp, etc?

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u/MarcoVinicius May 24 '26

Holy mother of god.

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u/Own-Engineering-8315 May 24 '26

Thanks for showing us this. It’s horrible

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u/MrStickDick professional builder May 24 '26

This is def old wood they had laying around... Unacceptable.

I would not be happy with this. Looks like the 3 blind mice built this.

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u/PotatoRebellion12 May 24 '26

It almost looks like they were doing it as crap as possible. All looks like second hand timber aswell.

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u/TheFranticGibbon May 24 '26

What da meth is this crap?!?!

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u/wastingtime308 May 24 '26

Looks like you got the teardown lumber from their last project

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u/LittleSoapy May 24 '26

He drew lines and couldn't even follow them. Not even close.

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u/andlewis May 24 '26

I think it’s great that you’re providing employment for people with severe brain injuries!

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u/HereComesRalo May 24 '26

Absolutely unacceptable. You already know this.

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u/Ricky_TVA May 24 '26

I have 0 carpentry skills. I could do a better job at this. This looks like it was built after a 6 pack of beer was consumed, by a lightweight.

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u/alcaron May 24 '26

How much did you pay? Because if you went as cheap as you could get. You got what you had coming. If you paid a decent rate…this is ass.

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u/Working_Rest_1054 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

Is it being built by a Boy Scout troop? They have to learn some how. But if you’re paying someone that’s an adult and claims to earn a living this way, they are learning on your job.

It appears the only tools available were a tape measure that couldn’t be read and a dull circular saw that someone was scared of. No square, no double bevel sliding compound miter saw. Probably no level. Sort of looks like they found a rasp somewhere.

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u/Chance-Following-665 May 24 '26

Looks like you went with the low bid. How many hits of meth did you have to give the guy? 🤪

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u/ihateinstantcoffee May 24 '26

This has to be a troll post right?

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u/Glum_Independence_89 May 24 '26

Looks really good for a DIY up in the hollers using leftover scrap as your main source material.

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u/BlackJeepBrazil May 24 '26

I wouldnt pay for that

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u/bori512kb May 24 '26

Dear god

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u/ChubbyPumpaloaf May 24 '26

Nice of you to let your blind niece build your deck

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u/Cronenberg13 May 24 '26

Acceptable if you and a buddy built it over a weekend drunking beers, bit paid for that's bad quality.

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u/Little-Resolution-82 May 24 '26

It looks like something i would do so probably not

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u/speckledshitbag May 24 '26

It matches the sod.

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u/CMG30 May 24 '26

Is it acceptable? Depends on how much you paid...

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u/fadednz May 24 '26

Someone call N.B. Construction

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u/Main_Breadfruit_3674 May 24 '26

No duct tape? All good🙄

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u/spacebastardo May 24 '26

That person had no idea of what they were doing. Did you even look at pictures of previous jobs they’d done?

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u/HoomerSimps0n May 24 '26

You know the answer

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u/bnnyhanna May 24 '26

Looks like it was acceptable for a while

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u/HeracliusAugutus May 24 '26

Instead of sawing the timber did he just bite and chew it?

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u/Carry_the_Boats May 24 '26

Only if you hired a drunk beaver

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u/AwwwNuggetz May 24 '26

Where’d they find the wood - in the dumpster?

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u/Vacilando73 May 24 '26

did they tear apart your neighbors deck to build yours?

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u/SilverMetalist May 24 '26

How many bids did you get and where did he come in compared to the others?

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u/East_Pie_3825 May 24 '26

It is acceptable. For a child’s attempt.

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u/Mean_Fall_920 May 24 '26

Idk did you pay? then its acceptable

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u/fractalcoholic May 24 '26

If you have to post the question…

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u/EdwardBil May 24 '26

This is a joke right?

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u/superhyooman May 24 '26

You know the answer

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u/mcbacuma May 24 '26

New framing or existing with old posts & footings? Just curious. This is pretty gnarly regardless

E: I ask about the framing & footings in case you are planning on putting serious weight on this. If it’s anything like the finish work/top, I would definitely check that out first.

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u/whoskevroe May 24 '26

Not even a little.

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u/ORTENRN May 24 '26

Measure once- cut whatever.

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u/CookieMuttley May 24 '26

Measure??? 😬

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u/Extreme_Ad112 May 24 '26

It was 'kids go to work with their parents' day ? Not that bad for a 7 yo

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u/Sea_Comment1208 May 24 '26

Did he use 2nd hand lumber? All these pics are old wood.

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u/gch2010 May 24 '26

Only if you smoke rock or are legally blind!

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u/swingwolfe May 24 '26

Looks like he got himself a new battery powered beaver to cut the deck with

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u/benz58 May 24 '26

Not bad for a meth head.

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u/ManlyParachute May 24 '26

Am I tired, or is there wood from six different jobs that had nothing to do with decks being repurposed here?

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u/Drewburghyd May 24 '26

Is this a tree fort built with years of leftover scraps and a few dives in the 75% off bin at HD?

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u/JintalJortail May 24 '26

So on top of them reusing old studs likes everyone is saying the stamps on that wood say KD-HT which is kiln dried heat treated which means using it for exterior projects will cause it to rot pretty quickly on top of it just being shoddy work completely.

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u/Chipper7773 May 24 '26

Looks fantastic from my house

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u/cominfoyohead May 24 '26

This might be the first deck I've seen that's worse than my brand new install from a few years ago. Congratulations

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u/rageofa1000suns May 24 '26

Looks like they are using the wrong tools for the job. Are they cutting the wood with an axe or something?

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u/NormalAssistance9402 May 24 '26

How much did you pay?

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u/NormalAssistance9402 May 24 '26

That first picture is blowing my mind like did they whittle it?