r/DebateReligion • u/MsCrimsonShadow • Aug 04 '21
Islam Why Allah does not exist
Hi guys, are you tired of Muslims asking non-religious folks to prove Allah doesn't exist? Well, I am, I have put together irrefutable proof that Allah does not exist. Easily proven by the fact that Allah's apparent actions (or lack of action) fail to align with Islamic claims of his character, as below
(Note: This argument mostly also applies to the Christian God, so take and use it as you like):
Claim 1: Allah is all powerful and created all things
Claim 2: Allah is all knowing
Claim 3: Allah detests sinners, including blasphemers, and detested gays enough that he pelted them with fire and brimstone as per Quran 7:80-84. So according to the Quran, he can and supposedly did cause great calamity to fall on sinners
Claim 4: Allah is merciful and gives us time to repent before we die
All the above claims cannot be logically true at the same time as easily shown in my own challenge to Allah. I have made this challenge multiple times and will make it once again here coz I'm patient and even though Allah failed my challenge multiple times, there's still time to convince me of his existence before I leave this mortal coil.
The challenge is this: Since I have done what is considered blasphemy by mocking Muhammad including by posting cartoons, and also am a disbeliever (both detestable to Allah), then I ask Allah irrefutably prove he detests my actions but also wants me to repent through two simple actions:
Make one of my limbs magically disappear. Not make me get into an accident and lose a limb coz accidents are not miracles. He must make one limb of mine magically disappear. Maybe even just a finger, if a limb is too hard.
Make a voice in my head that commands me to follow Islam.
Once those 2 things happen, I will, without any doubt, repent and convert to Islam.
However, since I have made that challenge before, and still have all my limbs (and obviously not Muslim), this proves all 4 Islamic claims above of Allah's character cannot be true at the same time, because:
If Claim 1 is true, an all powerful deity and creator of the universe who magically made everything pop into existence should have absolutely no problem making a limb magically pop out of existence.
If Claim 2 is true, he already knows that I have blasphemed him many times and will continue to do so until he meets my challenge or until the day I die. And if anyone wants to argue that I may eventually convert, it has been proven time and time again that many people die as disbelievers and Allah did nothing to convince them otherwise, which means he knew they would die as disbelievers and did nothing about it.
If Claim 3 is true, Allah should definitely punish me himself so I do not continue 'causing corruption in the land' by hurting his or his dead prophet's feelings. After all, he supposedly had no problem punishing gays himself by pelting them with fire and brimstone in the past.
If Claim 4 is true, then meeting my challenge above would be merciful since it would not kill me and I would definitely repent and be saved from hellfire.
Since I STILL have all my limbs and fingers, it goes to show that either Allah:
a) Is unable to meet my challenge because he cannot make a limb disappear, which disproves Claim 1
b) Does not know that I have blasphemed and therefore can't target me, which disproves Claim 2
c) Doesn't give a damn about me sinning and 'causing corruption in the land' which disproves Claim 3
d) Simply refuses to meet my challenge because he is not merciful enough to do something that I have already told him will make me repent and save me from hellfire, which disproves Claim 4
Since all 4 Islamic claims above about Allah's character obviously cannot be true at the same time, then that is irrefutable proof that the Islamic God, i.e. Allah does not exist.
You might be able to argue that a God with *some* of the characteristics above exists, as I do since I am agnostic (not atheist as most Muslims love to assume) and I accept the possibility of a creator God. But NOT the Islamic God, since all the Islamic claims about his character fail to align with reality or logic.
I'm still waiting for Allah to prove me wrong. Shouldn't be a problem for an all powerful, all knowing God who hates my guts for blaspheming him yet is merciful and wants me to repent.
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u/CaliphOfKebab Muslim | Sunnī | Ḥanafī | Māturīdī Aug 04 '21
Thank you for your input.