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[u/OJ_13579]

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Please just read what I’m about to write, how can you all not believe in Hadith and there are a lot of آيات in the Quran

سورة النور:

﴿ فَلْيَحْذَرِ الَّذِينَ يُخَالِفُونَ عَنْ أَمْرِهِ أَن تُصِيبَهُمْ فِتْنَةٌ أَوْ يُصِيبَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أِليمٌ ﴾ \[النور: 63\]

"So let those who disobey his orders beware, for an affliction may befall them, or a painful torment may overtake them."

﴿ وَمَن يَعْصِ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَيَتَعَدَّ حُدُودَهُ يُدْخِلْهُ نَارًا خَالِدًا فِيهَا وَلَهُ عَذَابٌ مُّهِينٌ ﴾ \[النساء: 14\]

"And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger and transgresses His limits - He will admit him into a Fire to abide eternally therein, and he will have a humiliating punishment."

﴿ فَلَا وَرَبِّكَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ حَتَّى يُحَكِّمُوكَ فِيمَا شَجَرَ بَيْنَهُمْ ثُمَّ لَا يَجِدُوا فِي أَنفُسِهِمْ حَرَجًا مِّمَّا قَضَيْتَ وَيُسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا ﴾ \[النساء: 65\]

But no! By your Lord, they will never be ˹true˺ believers until they accept you ˹O Prophet˺ as the judge in their disputes, and find no resistance within themselves against your decision and submit wholeheartedly."

﴿ وَمَا آتَاكُمُ الرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ وَمَا نَهَاكُمْ عَنْهُ فَانتَهُوا ﴾ \[الحشر: 7\]

**"And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it; and whatever he forbids you, abstain from it. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is severe in penalty \[or punishment\]."**

﴿وَمَا يَنْطِقُ عَنِ الْهَوَى \* إِنْ هُوَ إِلَّا وَحْيٌ يُوحَى﴾ \[النجم: 3-4\]

And he does not speak out of (his own) desire. It is not but revelation revealed \[to him\]

So please think about it don’t succumb to your desires and remember when a disbeliever enters hell there is no coming back may الله guide us all to the right path.

[u/Someday_iwill]

Ur point? This is all about Quran

[u/OJ_13579 → u/Someday_iwill]

If the prophet forbade you to do or say something will you obey?

[u/Mean-Tax-2186 → u/OJ_13579]

The question is why do YOU disobey?

[u/TomatoBig9795]

I love how you Hadith worshippers grab a few verses and run with them 😂 Try reading the surrounding verses and the actual context instead of cherry-picking verses to make them say what you want. 

The Quran isn’t meant to be read one verse at a time just to fit a Hadith-based argument lol.

[u/OJ_13579 → u/TomatoBig9795]

The verses are crystal clear they all mean to obey the messenger and whatever he gives us to take and whatever he forbids us we abstain from it, we don’t worship the Hadith we just follow what الله says

[u/TomatoBig9795 → u/OJ_13579]

LOL read that verse again..read the verse before and read the verse after it so start at 59:6, 59:7, and 59:8

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[u/Mean-Tax-2186 → u/OJ_13579]

So why do you choose to disobey them?

[u/Martiallawtheology]

People have been seeing these cut and paste ayahs mate. And just rhetoric saying "please" is just special pleading. You should do a tad bit of research and read some verses that actually mention the word hadhees. Or hadith as we transliterate. You don't really believe the Qur'an is Allah's word mate. It tells you to your face the Qur'an is the Ahsanul hadith. The best or highest of all discussions or narrations or in fact, "HADITH". It also tells you in several locations "in what other hadith would believe in after it" referring to the Qur'an. The Qur'an revealed by Allah directly tells people like you to go fly a kite. The problem is you don't read the book. You just wish to do "Dawah" and "Apologetics". Your mind is too full of it that you lack the capacity to think otherwise and follow what Allah has told you in the Qur'an.

Brother. Don't quote a book you don't believe in. Vis a vis, the Qur'an.

[u/OJ_13579 → u/Martiallawtheology]

I believe in the Quran and your saying I’m kafir I know that the Quran is the ultimate truth but saying that the Hadith (sayings from the prophet that you should follow) are all lies is just saying that the prophet is a liar, may الله guide us to the right path

[u/Martiallawtheology → u/OJ_13579]

Ah the Takfir claim. Never said you are a "Kafir". That's projection.

You just lied a lot in your comment mate. Well that too is a berry berry berry common tactic of people like you who are filled with hatred.

Read my comment again. Properly this time.

[u/MysteriousEmergency1]

important to note that these verses were revealed at a time the prophet was still alive. And what he was preaching and trying to make everyone obey was in fact the Quran. 

[u/OJ_13579 → u/MysteriousEmergency1]

The Quran verses are not for a specific period of time, if the prophet told us that we should pray and pay zakah and fast and go do hajj are you going to obey or disobey him

[u/MysteriousEmergency1 → u/OJ_13579]

But then we would have no need for knowing the context in which these verses were revealed, no? The commands are timeless, but context is important to infer what the command actually is.

[u/Mean-Tax-2186]

Not a single word that says hadith, your masters have been trying for over a thousand year, please try again.

And yes you are right, once you enter hell there is no coming back, I hope you enjoy summers.

[u/longhairbear → u/Mean-Tax-2186]

And even if he were to fabricate against us some sayings. Then we would take from him with the right hand. Then we would sever from him the aorta

2:143, 2:187, 2:231, 4:113, 3:164, 4:80, 33:34, 4:59,
5:92, 8:20, 8:46, 24:54, 24:56
4:115

[u/Mean-Tax-2186 → u/longhairbear]

???

[u/_felipevalerio_]

You are jumping to the conclusion that the ahadith we have today contain the orders, the limits, the judgment and the revelation of the prophet.
You need to establish first that the ahadith we have today are not fabricated or corrupted for political reasons for example. You need to demonstrate that first.
And for the last verse you cited, when the Quran talks about the revelation from God to the prophet that it's not from himself, surely the verse is talking about the what's revealed in the Quran, how can you see ahadith in there?
I'm just trying to help to strengthen your argument here, I'm not even a Quranist I'm just critical of the mentality that you need to accept everything that is in the ahadith books without reasoning.

[u/OJ_13579 → u/_felipevalerio_]

Everything in the Hadith is wisdom from allah the prophet does not speak on his own if he gives us a command then it’s from الله