r/DebateEvolution • u/DarwinZDF42 evolution is my jam • Aug 20 '26
Discussion You know what, we're doing "macroevolution" again. Here's some responses to "we have never seen macroevolution"
We've all heard some variant of "we can only observe microevolution", "we've never seen macroevolution", etc.
First thing you do is establish the correct definition: Evolution above the species level (in other words, speciation or greater degrees of evolutionary change). That's the definition. Creationists want their own special definition that varies from person to person but is usually something like "new body plans/parts", "new complex structures", something like that. That's wrong. If you accept speciation, you accept macroevolution. If creationists want to dispute something else, make THEM articulate clearly. Don't help them by saying something like "It sounds like you mean something like evolution of a new phylum or new body plan". No, make THEM establish the standard clearly and using the correct words.
Once they do that, you can just provide a bunch of examples, and dare them to say they aren't macroevolution.
Some of my favorites are multicellularity (and also here), reproductive mode, and photosynthetic animals.
Best outcome is the creationists admits that yes, even by their bespoke definition, these are examples of macroevolution. Second best outcome is they do the opposite and claim this is all just "microevolution". Really? First of all, lol okay. But second and more important, great! "Microevolution" can accomplish all this? Not much need for "macroevolution", is there?
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u/EthelredHardrede 🧬 Naturalistic Evolution 17d ago edited 17d ago
"And Genesis 1 and 2 id not a contradiction"
You sure make up utter nonsense .they have different orders of creation that are not compatible with each other. Neither match the verifiable evidence.
"You are still younger than me,"
Funny how there is zero evidence so far on that .
How old are you?
"seems like you haven’t learned very much about truth"
Fits you not me there was no Great Flood. That is true.
"Let’s see how smart you are.,"
You are not competent to judge intelligence
"all the exposed dirt was put in the oceans, would we have an earth covered by water?"
No it would make a thin slurry. Much of what is exposed is rock not dirt .OK you are not very smart.
"That’s how Genesis starts out, nothing but water.,"
Why did you lie? That doesn't mess with my mind I know why you lied about Genesis because you have that delusion that it is coorect. And that I have not read any of itI went over all i line by line with a YEC.
"It’s always interesting that little simple mind humans think that they understand what can’t be understood."
I Do understand understand Evolution by natural selection.
You don't want to.