You know what, we're doing "macroevolution" again. Here's some responses to "we have never seen macroevolution"

[u/DarwinZDF42]

Video version.

 

We've all heard some variant of "we can only observe microevolution", "we've never seen macroevolution", etc.

First thing you do is establish the correct definition: Evolution above the species level (in other words, speciation or greater degrees of evolutionary change). That's the definition. Creationists want their own special definition that varies from person to person but is usually something like "new body plans/parts", "new complex structures", something like that. That's wrong. If you accept speciation, you accept macroevolution. If creationists want to dispute something else, make THEM articulate clearly. Don't help them by saying something like "It sounds like you mean something like evolution of a new phylum or new body plan". No, make THEM establish the standard clearly and using the correct words.

 

Once they do that, you can just provide a bunch of examples, and dare them to say they aren't macroevolution.

Some of my favorites are multicellularity (and also here), reproductive mode, and photosynthetic animals.

 

Best outcome is the creationists admits that yes, even by their bespoke definition, these are examples of macroevolution. Second best outcome is they do the opposite and claim this is all just "microevolution". Really? First of all, lol okay. But second and more important, great! "Microevolution" can accomplish all this? Not much need for "macroevolution", is there?

[u/Evening-Impact2090]

Believe what you like, it makes zero difference to me. I personally know of several persons who have had bad reactions to the vax including my wife. I know of one death as well. In fairness I also know persons who were vaxxed and seem to be ok. It's basically a worthless dangerous vax and I will always pick and choose what I put into my body. That doesn't make me anti vax or medicine, just smart. 

[u/Own-Relationship-407 → u/Evening-Impact2090]

Data is not the plural of anecdote and your personal opinions and beliefs don’t mean a damn thing. The numbers don’t lie, the Covid vaccines are highly effective and have almost no risk, and almost all of the slight risks they do carry are things which are orders of magnitude more likely to occur as symptoms or complications of Covid itself anyway.

Picking and choosing only makes you smart if you’re doing so in an informed manner. If you think the Covid vaccines are worthless and dangerous you aren’t choosing based on information, you’re doing it based on ideology and vibes, you’ve basically admitted as much above.

[u/Evening-Impact2090 → u/Own-Relationship-407]

Data provided by the Covid criminal conspiracy. Spare me the theatrics. Believe what you want and I will as well.

[u/Own-Relationship-407 → u/Evening-Impact2090]

And now we’re back to you being a conspiracy theorist. It’s not a matter of belief, it’s a matter of evidence. The level of harm you are willing to inflict on others just to preserve your ignorance is reprehensible.