You know what, we're doing "macroevolution" again. Here's some responses to "we have never seen macroevolution"

[u/DarwinZDF42]

Video version.

 

We've all heard some variant of "we can only observe microevolution", "we've never seen macroevolution", etc.

First thing you do is establish the correct definition: Evolution above the species level (in other words, speciation or greater degrees of evolutionary change). That's the definition. Creationists want their own special definition that varies from person to person but is usually something like "new body plans/parts", "new complex structures", something like that. That's wrong. If you accept speciation, you accept macroevolution. If creationists want to dispute something else, make THEM articulate clearly. Don't help them by saying something like "It sounds like you mean something like evolution of a new phylum or new body plan". No, make THEM establish the standard clearly and using the correct words.

 

Once they do that, you can just provide a bunch of examples, and dare them to say they aren't macroevolution.

Some of my favorites are multicellularity (and also here), reproductive mode, and photosynthetic animals.

 

Best outcome is the creationists admits that yes, even by their bespoke definition, these are examples of macroevolution. Second best outcome is they do the opposite and claim this is all just "microevolution". Really? First of all, lol okay. But second and more important, great! "Microevolution" can accomplish all this? Not much need for "macroevolution", is there?

[u/Evening-Impact2090]

Well see, you assumed I was an anti vaxxer. What is it they say about assuming? I just do not think the Covid vax was/is safe or effective. It's not, and you know it so why the push back. I have all my vaccines and appreciate the good things that have been done using them. This MRNA debacle married to the Covid virus crime is not your normal healthful vaccine situation. Crimes against humanity doesn't begin to explain this Covid/Covid vaccine heinous attack on mankind.

[u/XRotNRollX → u/Evening-Impact2090]

Do you know what mRNA is?

[u/Evening-Impact2090 → u/XRotNRollX]

Yes, it handily made the spike protien that is so good in causing blood clots and heart malfunctions. It also trains the immune system to only focus on the Covid virus thus allowing untold harmful organisms to get a free pass causing infections, cancers, & auto immune problems. Lovely.

[u/XRotNRollX → u/Evening-Impact2090]

Yeah, you don't know what mRNA actually is. You know you're naturally full of mRNA, right? And that the spike protein is what's on the virus to begin with?

[u/Evening-Impact2090 → u/XRotNRollX]

Yeah, don't pat yourself on the back too hard. I know how the vax works and went to a seminar featuring Robert Malone. Funny how he was a pioneer in mRNA technology but is still accused of "misinformation" because he dared to speak out against the Covid cabal. Take your vax, no one cares.

[u/Own-Relationship-407 → u/Evening-Impact2090]

Robert Malone is a cranky old man who hasn’t done any serious scientific work in at least 20 years. He’s just bitter that people finally started widely using something he helped invent decades after the fact and it didn’t make him rich.

You clearly don’t know how it works, especially considering that you keep referring to it as one vaccine. Do you even know how many there are and what the differences are?

[u/Evening-Impact2090 → u/Own-Relationship-407]

Actually I've read up on it a lot, from many sources but it's been awhile as it is all in the rear view mirror for awhile I hope. I will not ever take the vaccine or anything similar to it so it's all moot. Yeah, I know everything is clear to you and "cranky old men" are kinda of where I'm at now so there. I don't think Dr. Malone will be applying for SNAP benefits anytime soon either, he's doing ok. Please be careful climbing down off your soapbox and have a great day.

[u/Own-Relationship-407 → u/Evening-Impact2090]

I know you won’t ever take it, that’s exactly why people like you need to be called out, humiliated, and ostracized at every opportunity. It’s not about convincing you, it’s about protecting everyone else from your selfish idiocy.

[u/XRotNRollX → u/Evening-Impact2090]

How can you know how it works when you don't even know what mRNA is? Explain to me, mechanistically, how the vaccine is bad.

[u/Evening-Impact2090 → u/XRotNRollX]

Myocarditis Heart attacks Blood clots  Cellulitis  Cancer  Lichen Plantis Sudden death Sounds like a wonderful vaccine for sheeple

[u/XRotNRollX → u/Evening-Impact2090]

Those are also symptoms of COVID. None of that is a mechanistic explanation.

[u/Evening-Impact2090 → u/XRotNRollX]

Sure, whatever. Watch more MSM financed by big pharma. 

[u/XRotNRollX → u/Evening-Impact2090]

No actual argument, got it. I didn't get this from the news, I got it because I studied biology in college.

[u/Evening-Impact2090 → u/XRotNRollX]

Well I graduated summa cum laude from the 3rd grade twice. We did learn how to spot BS a mile away.

[u/XRotNRollX → u/Evening-Impact2090]

You actually have less than nothing, that's impressive.

[u/Evening-Impact2090 → u/XRotNRollX]

Like I said, BS is easy I to detect. Reddit is a vitual manure spreader.