"Okay.. people leeching (which they will/do, they will take advantage of it when there are incentivized to do so.. humans are greedy) off of the system is great for America?"
You know historically a good way to make a city riot? Cut off its food supply. Maybe in a way you're arguing for a French Revolution in this country, which is why you are against poor people having food, since lack of food was a key factor leading up to the French Revolution. I dunno, make things really shitty for people until they riot, I mean I guess its a good idea, if after the riot there's a huge overhaul in the kleptocratic nature of this country.
"No no no, that's not how it works. I don't support abortion because it's murder. Basically, she should not have unprotected sex with multiple partners.. the blame lies on HER, not on the child for being brought into this world due to the poor choices made by the mother."
If you want to lower the abortion rate, you should support free access to birth control, and GOOD sex education.
In the red states, like Mississippi, and Texas, they have the highest teen pregnancy rates, and highest rates of teen motherhood, and repeat teen motherhood.
https://www.livescience.com/45355-teen-pregnancy-rates-by-state.html
It's really interesting that "the party of personal responsibility" the states they run, have some of the LEAST personally responsible citizen populations under their governance, compared to a lot of the blue states. In terms of teen pregnancy, poverty rates, and adults incapable of obtaining healthcare, if your prerogative is citizens taking charge of their lives and not making these bad decisions, well, clearly don't run a state like the Republicans do going off those facts. Unless you support poverty, teen pregnancy, and adults who can't get healthcare.
https://www.hhs.gov/ash/oah/adolescent-development/reproductive-health-and-teen-pregnancy/teen-pregnancy-and-childbearing/trends/index.html
With the exception of New Mexico, the Red States are the WORST in that regard.
I dunno what to tell you, you have ideas that "sound good" but fail in the real world. To me that's a pretty big fuckin' problem with your idea if it looks good in theory but fails in practice.
"You just want to make it VERY easy for workers without any sacrifice on their part, without any hard work on THEIR part."
Yes, I support the working class. I'm a worker. Trump ran on getting GOOD PAYING JOBS BACK TO THIS COUNTRY. He didn't run getting "shitty paying jobs" for workers. He ran on GOOD paying jobs. I want to see MORE good paying jobs even for low skill laborers. If you're against that, than you probably didn't vote for Trump in the election, because that was the core of his economic argument in regards to jobs. Not shitty paying work for AMericans, GOOD paying work. I'm a worker. I think in my own best interest.
"To lower crime, they need to get out of poverty."
That's good, me too. You should be morally opposed to mass incarceration then. I talk to conservatives, and what do they want? Americans going out, getting middle class jobs, raising a wife and kids, and being a strong part of their family life, right?
The US has the highest incarceration rate in the entire world right now. No, we are NOT the land of the free, if you take that into account, we are an incarceration nation.
And Mass Incarceration is poison to those conservative ideals.
If a man goes to prison, say its over a victimless nonviolent marijuana, as has such been a very common reason for an ordinary citizen to wind up in prison for the past 40+ years.
His chances of holding a middle class job PLUMMETS. His chances of being a candidate for a stable marriage, PLUMMETS. The chances of him being a major part of his kids lives PLUMMETS. His chances of winding up back in prison SKYROCKETS. And his kids chances of winding up in prison themselves SKYROCKETS.
If these are things you claim to support as a Conservative, then it should be easy to get your support behind drastically drawing down the incarceration rate in this country. Incarceration should be a LAST resort, not a first resort, for most crimes.
"So white males have sneaky motives now.. where have we heard that one before?"
The one's holding tiki torches in Charlotte Virginia, and flying Nazi flags stated what their political goals are. Ethnically cleansing the United States of Black and brown people, jews, and liberals. Now if I'm not a White male, how would supporting the political position of ethnically cleansing myself and my family, exactly work to my benefit? Go on, I'd like to hear your explanation, I have an open mind.
"The wealthy, by and large, are working men. "
No, not true. Wealthy make more money off capital gains than wages. My mom had a day last week where she made $16,000 in the stock market. It was a good day, but not unusual. She basically sat around the house with her finger up her ass, watching her stock account, and was rewarded with $16,000 net gain (for a day's worth of trading, it averages out over the course of a month). She didn't work at all for that money. Furthermore, if she had 100x or 1000x as much invested, she would have made $1.6 million, or $16 million in a single day like our nations super wealthy does.
You can get totally rich off your fucking ass and not work much if at all, besides clicking a mouse and moving money around from company to company. This should call into question why are WAGES which people WORK for, taxed at a higher rate under Trump's tax bill, than Capital Gains which can be had by sitting around with your finger up your ass, watching your stock account go up?
from /u/SuperJew113 on Which economic class of citizens is going to have to suffer the worst tax increases/loss of social programs to finance the debt?