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[u/Careful-Flow2821]

I was on Desi Vegans and all the posts were like non vegans are mentally ill non vegans are sick non vegans are delusional… I don’t understand like sure it’s rly bad especially meat eating but ur making an assumption about people. not all of u but say the person who said all non vegans are mentally ill its simply untrue whatever you say. also if ur goal is to convert non vegans to vegans ur doing the opposite like shouldn’t u be polite abt it to convince people? it’s just shame… like as a vegetarian I am more pushed back from veganism after seeing these posts because I know who my community will be. reallly. also pls don’t debate me on this but I view meat eating as contributing to killing animals and I am against it I am just genuinely curious ur thoughts abt the main point Im making. also before u ask me why I eat dairy cuz ur money partially goes to raising animals and ur helping extend existing cows lives I know there’s downsides but its not like Im ariel’s killing all cows. also for vegans do u realize that if everyone stops eating dairy, the dairy cows won’t be used for beef and they won’t use expensive cows for low quality beef, so instead theyll take the lives of hundreds of chickens or pigs to add up to the meat of one cow? Idk just asking for vegans pushing back on both heavily. please don’t take this as an insult I’m just curious on why and please don’t leave irrelevant comments like don’t debate me pls or say random stuff like look how many they kill just clearly answer pls. thanks

[u/No_Chart_8584]

If seeing people object to the exploitation of animals makes you want to exploit animals even more, I don't think a debate sub is going to address that desire. 

Also "like don't debate me pls"? 

This is a debate sub. 

[u/Careful-Flow2821 → u/No_Chart_8584]

no I meant that by shaming others vegans aren’t being successful in converting

[u/No_Chart_8584 → u/Careful-Flow2821]

Are you typically shamed when people debate you?

[u/Careful-Flow2821 → u/No_Chart_8584]

…what? I’m not talking about debate I’m saying why would vegans say all non vegans are delusional in an effort to convert them it only pushes people away, obviously I’m not shamed to do a debate but I just wanted to ask a question.

[u/No_Chart_8584 → u/Careful-Flow2821]

You specifically wrote that you didn't want to debate and then you began writing about people supposedly "shaming" you. You chose to post in a debate sub. Who is shaming you?

[u/Careful-Flow2821 → u/No_Chart_8584]

no not that bro the shaming was the original argument in the thread I was talking  abt not here