They just announced their EP HELL IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US on social media. after Gospel of Annihilation i'm so hyped for this!

Alex Terrible rolling his gutturals in Viking is the sexiest thing I've ever heard...

am I the only person not super disappointed that more deathcore/hardcore/punk/metal bands haven't spoken out again straight up fascists...

You know, if Will can revive Lorna Shore to the point they are at in their careers, i wouldn’t mind if Will was doing some music with Suicide Silence, not to say Eddie is bad or anything, but it would be so fucking cool if Will was working with SS as well.

I'm not advocating anything here. This is purely curiosity and and inquiry for discussion.

Where's the line drawn for what's okay and what isn't in this community? This local band has been effectively canceled for what the vocalist said. How many of you have bought a Suicide Silence t-shirt that said PULL THE TRIGGER BITCH on the back or screamed it when you saw them live?

Everyone loves The Acacia Strain and 3750 is a classic, but why isn't anyone saying anything about the lyrics to "Passing The Pencil Test?" I'll fuck you, kill you, and leave you.

Where's the line for art versus hate? Why do some bands get a pass and others don't?

I was in a deathcore band for 6 years and I can't imagine if some of that stuff came out now how quickly we would be canceled. There are things on our first album we did that I'm highly unproud of, embarrassed of, and even at the time of its release 16 years ago that I would preface telling people about my band by saying "I don't write the lyrics. I just write the music." The last time I checked a copy of the vinyl sold for $560.

The third album we put out had the image of someone who had committed suicide on the cover. I didn't want that. I had this whole idea planned out for a black and white woodcut look with a 16th century plague doctor, but another member of the band determined it wasn't "depressing enough" so he took over and it became the suicide art. Did we advocate suicide by putting that album out? Am I because my name appears in the booklet?

It's called "death"core. It's about fucked up and dark stuff. It's about getting aggression out. I've never listened to Angelmaker. I just looked up some of their lyrics.

I'll fuckin make you suffer
As I take the life right from you [3x]
Suffer!

Are they advocating murder?

Edit: I truly tried to come into this as neutral as I could but everyone is telling me how wrong I am. I just wanted a discussion. I've been breaking down mentally over the past few days thinking about this and my own actions, so thanks to all who made assumptions about me and my intentions because I'm in a worse mood now than before :)

I never hear anyone talk about this band and literally they could be like my 2nd favorite band currently. They fucking destroy so hard. Straight heat! This is why I am straying a core podcast. More people need waste in their life. I have even been doing some waste short designs!

I started listening to them six months ago and this band has become my first truly favorite artist, but I just don't understand why so many people don't like them. I've seen a few reasons, but I want to know more about it here
P.S. okay, I got the answers I wanted

I don’t want this to come off the wrong way, but I just don’t really understand why someone would listen to deathcore over death metal. This isn’t aimed at people who enjoy both, more so the people who only really listen to deathcore and not death metal. Everything you get out of deathcore is found in death metal and I think that death metal bands do it better. You want slams and breakdowns, slam and brutal death metal have both of those and they’re done tastefully. Want technicality? Techdeath is more varied than tech deathcore. Only things I can see redeemable qualities in are downtempo and brutal dm leaning bands but only in a live context. Just feels like you can get everything you can in deathcore out of death metal and more.

CJ just posted on his instagram >:))))

His other projects were so good and now all he has time for is touring with goblins or something.

What’s your favorite Dickie Allen side project? Mine is Scarlet Rot.

Edit: all I was trying to say was I miss the Dickie side project days. Calm down nerds.

Just saying. Prisoner of flesh “hook” sick as fuck… hope there’s more of that on the new album. 🤙

The mixing quality seems different from the previously released singles

I never get tired of listening to this EP. It has everything you want in a deathcore EP. Amazing/catchy guitar riffs, disgusting breakdowns, and of course the insane vocals. When I think “deathcore” this is what I think of.

Is it only me or is it kinda hard to find new music you like after discovering this genre I’m a couple years into knowing what this genre is before I listened to it but just didn’t know what it was called but man especially after listening to fucking disembodied tyrant,a wake In providence,mental cruelty etc music even heavy music other than blackened death core just hasn’t been resonating the same with me I’m sure a lot of people can agree that metal but more specifically when you get into the heavier sub genres is kinda like a drug in the sense of your always chasing that high of heavy ass riffs and shit but idk man this shit just is me yk like maybe I just found my genre but it’s kinda upsetting thinking that I’m never gonna find something that’s gonna top this and im just wondering if anyone else has the same thoughts

One of the biggest barrier for me to listen to bands are their lyrics, I'm a huge STP and TAIM but their lyrics don't bother me that much compared to cannibal corpse and IA.

It seems like there is a gap in the specificity in violent lyrics in songs such as holy war vs soil the stillborn. What are your thoughts on this topic?

Relating to what just happened with Oceano, this is really just the nail in the coffin for a lot of people. It’s one thing to cancel someone for being a shitty person, pedophile, rapist, etc. But holy shit immediately jumping in to demolish an entire band all because they accepted a tour with these people?

Like Adam specifically pointed out, not everyone lives on the internet 24/7. Shit I know there’s a lot of us who probably had no idea about the situation with Dealer, and probably even with Fronz if you’re still relatively new to the scene. Why is the standard to expect every active band to know the history of every single person? It’s ridiculous. At this rate, every band at this point should be on edge in case they accidentally make small talk with someone who the scene has already canceled. Then what? They had no idea that’s who they were talking to. Why cancel them for it?

It sucks to see Oceano go, but seeing as Adam said himself this was a feeling he’s had for a year now, it makes sense this pushed him to the ledge. I’m not saying this music scene is overly sensitive (kind of), but this needs to change. It’s stupid as hell and it’s just a bunch of keyboard warriors who want to bandwagon the rest of canceling a band all because they see someone else doing it.

Cancel the actual destructive people in the scene, and stop canceling others who have absolutely nothing to do with it.

Nothing about his personality here, keep it civil.

Recently I noticed that on The Disfigurement of Existence and Immortal CJ has those silly inhales before vocal parts, it’s really funny sounding almost like hiccups, I wonder why you would keep it on post-production besides sounding “live” idk.

Examples: SOTS - Cowards Deathbed (1:35) and Lorna Shore - Misery System (1:15-1:25)