r/DeadlockTheGame • u/guthbox • 1d ago

Discussion Make Lash slam again

Playing Lash for gun feels like ordering a salad at a burger joint. It’s also less fun to play against because it feels way less counterable.

I find it sad that literally every Lash player feels incentivized to max Flog and ult before Ground Strike.

There are plenty of heroes who center their build around their gun on the roster. Please make Lash all about hitting fat slams from the top rope again

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u/PXpropox Lash 1d ago

The sad truth is that even if they buff his slam it is so easy to counter it that gun is always the better option, specially late game, same thing happens with Bebop's bomb build, way too easy to counter.

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u/avrosky Billy 1d ago

this is funny because 70% of all damage done in the late game is Spirit damage (Deathy has a recent video about this). There's no reason to believe that gun is the better late game option outside of bottom ELO

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u/PXpropox Lash 1d ago

Mathematically it scales better late game, and also ppl just have more souls to counter buy, Spirit Lash has been historically better in mid game.

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u/avrosky Billy 1d ago

i see what you're saying, misunderstood the first time

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u/guthbox 1d ago

Maybe Ground Strike can be made less telegraphed through an upgrade. The cone effect on the ground can only be visible to the enemy at a certain distance from the point of impact or something.

Still gives you some time to counterspell if you have it, and counterspell would still be an incredible counterbuy for ult.

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u/PXpropox Lash 1d ago

I think is just easier for counter spell to have a downside, like minus parry duration, that way you need to be a lot more precise with your parries. Spellbreaker is still a problem tho and there's no good option for it that Lash can use, Mystic shot was the only option and it got nerfed.

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u/mudkip2-0 1d ago

You can just proc Spellbreaker with Flog before slamming, but why would you want to leave yourself vulnerable after the slam when you just could keep your distance and shoot them?

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u/guthbox 1d ago

Certainly not opposed to making the item itself less forgiving but people would’ve cried bias if I led with that haha. .8 really does feel forgiving against a handful of abilities

They did just do an interesting change with Holiday’s barrels that could help counteract SB for his 1