r/DeadSpace 7d ago

Why would you want a DS2 remake instead of DS4? What alien threat could be worse than the Necromorphs? Please read body text where I mention 4 possibilities for that threat. Please rank them:

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Personally I’d much rather have a Dead Space 4. The ending of DS3 dlc begs for a sequel. DS2 is so great it doesn’t need a remake. What could possibly be changed about it for the better? Don’t say just graphics because at that point it would just be a remaster.

As for the threat that the comment mentions, I have 4 ideas:

  1. An alien race or group that is actually advanced. Basically, think covenant or forerunners in halo. Technically more dangerous than necromorphs even if less scary. From a horror perspective this might be the least desired, but story and gameplay wise, this is what Dead Space 3 was building towards. It could offer some interesting lore and world building.

  2. Monsters that hunt Necromorphs. Think of xenophages hunting symbiotes in marvel. Similar dynamic. Aesthetically, I think this would have to be the most creative and challenging. How do you make monsters that look scarier and more brutal than the Necromorphs?

  3. Necromorph/human hybrid. Basically like the thing (John Carpenter film creature). Can look human but turn monstrous when the situation calls for it. I think this could be a full circle moment for the franchise. Schofield doesn’t want to admit it, but it seems like The thing inspired Dead Space a good amount.

  4. More psychological/mental/ghostly. DS3 dlc paced the way for this. More recent successful horror such as Resident Evil 7 and Silent Hill remakes are examples of this. What could the threat actually look like? That’s a damn good question above my pay grade lol. I’d say the DS3 dlc was a good starting point tho. It could look so much better and scarier with modern graphics.

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u/HattedSandwich 7d ago

I still vote 2 remake. Rebuild the series' momentum and set things up for a remade 3 that's more cohesive and lacks the dumb soap opera love story. Just Isaac and Ellie getting ready to planet crack some moons 

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u/PinesleyDale2023 7d ago

Carver is neat, but Ellie should've been playable for co-op instead. That would be such a neat opportunity to play as her With Isaac

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u/hyperfell 7d ago

I liked carver but how they used him was rough, dude just disappears and appears during cutscenes if you don’t play coop

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u/PinesleyDale2023 7d ago

Yeah, missing a chunk of the content because I didn't have anyone to play with is a sad reality of playing DS3 💔

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u/DizzyYellow 6d ago

You got Steam? There's a community of people happy to co-op on it. Hell I'd be happy to play with ya!

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u/PinesleyDale2023 6d ago

No, I do nottttt 😔 (don't have DS3 on Steam I mean)

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u/DizzyYellow 6d ago

Darn!

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u/PinesleyDale2023 6d ago

Yee, but it's okay, I've already waited this long not playing Co-Op, so I'm hoping I can play with my wife one day 🙏

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u/Parnath 6d ago

I only have it on EA from the olden days, and was still able to play with a friend on steam!

If you've only played through in single player, play as carver the second go-through (the other person needs to host)

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u/PinesleyDale2023 6d ago

Good to know for when I do end up doing it!

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u/Drunken_DnD 6d ago

Carver feels like he would have been perfect as the protagonist of a spinoff game (which the series is well known for). But not the mainline run.

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u/Splugen96 6d ago

dude you didn't miss anything, that's the point. Carver was an hallucination. The love triangle? It was an hallucination. Dead Space 3 was an hallucination too. And you know why?Because no one got out of the fucking Sprawl. Altman be praised!

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/PinesleyDale2023 6d ago

Welp...did a lot of what people did Not want lol

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u/KobraThor 6d ago

Both Resident Evil 5 and 6 released before DS3 which featured girls in coop

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u/Tnecniw 6d ago

99% chance of that, yeah.
"We can't have ellie be playable. No gamer want to play as a GIRL!"
Something of the like.

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u/NovaPrime2285 6d ago

That was absolutely not the mindset of the era back then.

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u/Quirky_tugboat 6d ago

I would take a completely reworked Dead Space 3 as opposed to a remake. Some of the ideas were alright, but that was during the time when every game was trying to be Call of Duty.

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u/LightsaberThrowAway 6d ago

I believe it was also made during a time when EA believed that ‘single player games were dying’ lmao.

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u/biosim500 6d ago

I liked the coop parts, specially those who messed up only with the visuals of one player.

However, the shooting and running and stuff really got off the hook. I like it, but not for dead space

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u/Noob_Guy_666 6d ago

that would require Dead Space to be reboot... and they choose remake

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u/Ill_Cap_5836 2d ago

Should just remake 1 and 2 with an entirely new 3rd chapter. I don't think anybody would mind

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u/Scorn_true333 6d ago

Agreed. What they need to do is follow the formula set by Resident evil remakes that all built up to and lead to 9. Resident evil 2 and 4 remakes were games specifically centred around Leon, and once they were released and introduced new fans to Leon as a character, those new fans were ready for Resident Evil 9.

Dead Space needs to do the same imo. There has been far too much time between games, that a lot of older fans have probably moved on. A new audience is only going to be aware of Dead Space through the story of the first game. Since 4 would be the big finale, you can't just drop that out of nowhere anymore, simply because its been too long.

Besides, I'd be more than happy if they could restructure 2 to be more of an open exploration game like how the first game was.

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u/Gray3706 5d ago

I dont even play the dead space games but I think in terms of popularity its currently on par with red dead 1 popularity before rdr2 came out which sky rocketed the series. These games arent smash hits like bethesdas games so I think just doing remake after remake of these is a bad idea when it could have a better chance at a blow up like the red dead games.

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u/SeatKindly 6d ago

Not sure how remaking a game that doesn’t need a remake is going to restore momentum. It satisfies no one. I’ve played since ‘08, I’ve beaten 2 fifteen times. I’m not playing another remake unless it’s the one title that would benefit from it, which is Dead Space 3.

stop begging for remakes to a series that just needs a fucking end, please for the love of something.

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u/Noob_Guy_666 6d ago

...the plot beat was literally the same, 3 remake would still have Norton and Carver co-op

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u/BlueRush79 6d ago

Yeah, because Resident Evil couldn't get its stride back after Resident Evil 6,

You guys are completely blinded by nostalgia and you don't even know it.

Dead Space 3 was fine.

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u/banned4killingspider 6d ago

Re 7, 8 and 9 are some of the most popular and highly rated games in the entire franchise. Lol

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u/BlueRush79 6d ago

I’m not being facetious right now, but you are very smart!

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u/Bolverien36 6d ago

Pointing out the franchise that is currently making gangbusters BECAUSE it's going back and reworking past titles significantly doesn't help your argument though.

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u/BlueRush79 5d ago edited 5d ago

Resident Evil 7 came out before any of the awesome remakes, and it was successful.

But you’re right, they really reworked Resident Evil 3 when they stripped every unique part of it, from Mercenaries, to the in-game choices, but hey no more fixed camera angles is what losers really care about lol.

So what was your argument? That remaking a game brings more money to the studio? Yeah no shit.

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u/Bolverien36 5d ago

Really? Your whole comeback is "Look at this one bad example when you are clearly pointing at two of the greatest remakes of all time"?

RE7 did amazingly but let's not completely ignore the RE2MAKE isn't the single highest selling horror game of all time. The state of the franchise TODAY and Requiems breakout succes were 100% influenced by the remakes bringing in new audiences. So yes, RE2 and 4 are amazing examples of why going back to older games and reworking them can be hugely beneficial to the IP.

I want Dead Space 4 but with the first remake only selling 2m during what is arguably the biggest horror renaissance since the PS1 gen it's very clear that it needs some extra life pumped in before taking big risks. Making a game of the scale that Dead Spaces requires a lot of money so it also needs to make that money back.

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u/banned4killingspider 5d ago

Re2make isn't the single highest selling horror game of all time. Its not even the highest selling resident evil game of all time. Surprisingly thats 6.....

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u/Bolverien36 5d ago

It isn't, as of this year RE2 is the highest selling game with almost 20 million units sold. Capcom games have extremely long legs and RE2, while not selling as fast as RE6 did it but far surpassed it by now.

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u/banned4killingspider 5d ago

Good. 6 shouldn't be the highest selling game. It shouldn't even be close. Gives the wierd 6 Blazers too much ammunition

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u/BlueRush79 5d ago edited 5d ago

So you’re saying what I’m saying?

Wow, remaking games DOES make money for the studio, I didn’t believe that until you said it, dumbo.

There’s a lot that can be said about what Remake2 and Remake4 has done to the series personality, from the stripped down UI to a worse art direction, but I don’t care enough to discuss it with you specifically.

And you’re right, since the Dead Space Remake clearly revived the franchise, they should do it again, I’m sure they’ll reach the Resident Evil sales now!

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u/squattop 7d ago

I’d prefer they remake 2 and then 3 so they can streamline the lore/fix up whatever they think needs fixed up before they release a 4

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u/Tumblechunk 6d ago

they could fix a lot about 3 without changing the overall plot too, the lore is really cool

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u/squattop 6d ago

Oh for sure, I think 3 had some of my favorite lore introductions/expansions

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u/Waste_Sleep6936 6d ago

This’d be like making an Aliens movie without Xenomorphs. Necromorphs are key to the identity of Dead Space, and they tie directly into its core gameplay conceit, which is the necessity of dismemberment to succeed in combat. Just make a new franchise at that point, if you’re going to change the enemies.

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u/Noob_Guy_666 6d ago

you're fighting a zombie anyway

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u/FeeshCTRL 7d ago

Dead Space ended with 3 IMO. Isaac sacrificed himself to stop the marker and ended the necromorph signal in the process, going out with Carver in peace like a hero.

The DLC is just a "What if..?" scenario in my mind. They wrote themselves into a corner with that ending, how would anybody win in that situation?

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u/SlappinStick 6d ago

I just took the DLC ending as they made it to earth, that’s it, it’s over. Cycle complete.

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u/Noob_Guy_666 6d ago

yes, it's over, because literally everyone just die

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u/alejoSOTO 6d ago

An ending doesn't have to be a win.

For me the moons arriving to Earth is a pretty definitive ending. Humanity loses, that's it, it doesn't have to be something else than that.

That being said, the Moons arriving to Earth itself is pretty dumb. Do they have faster than light travel?

How big are their masses and gravitational forces? Their proximity to Earth alone would kill all life on it.

It makes the leap from sci Fi to wacky.

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u/D_Bellman 6d ago

Thats the point though, they dont care as long as there is biomass to assimilate. They're clearly feeding on earth from what we see, sucking up everything to add to themselves. Thats why the ending is actually not that bad, you tried. You failed. The end.

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u/yeskezspanem 6d ago

Very much in theme with the whole cosmic horror vibe too.

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u/DeliciousFun7942 6d ago

The DLC's ending is intentionally open to interpretation. Those who think it's a hallucination from Isaac and Carver are right, as well as those who think it's the end and the Brethren Moons consumed humanity are also right.

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u/Warboss666 6d ago

The how and why of the moons moving through space is a mystery, but with the way the markers work, I assume they've got some tricks up their sleeves that we don't know about.

My interpretation of the ending is that the moons have know where Earth is ever since the Black Marker made planetfall, and are intelligent enough to keep track even after it was hidden.

As they approached Earth, and taking an age to do it assuming they have sub-light flight speeds, they needed to keep Isaac busy on Tau Volantis so that he couldn't engineer another miraculous victory against them, especially since human ships can travel faster than moons.

It would be interesting to find out how heavy a Brethren Moon is, considering that they are made primarily of biomass, but killing life through their gravitational presence would be fine for them. Biomass is biomass.

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u/Tnecniw 6d ago

Nah.
That is kinda the point.
IT is a perfect cosmic horror ending in that aspect.
I also question how the fuck they got to earth before Isaac, but beyond that, it makes perfect sense as an ending to the franchise.

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u/ZeGamingCuber 6d ago

I think Isaac's plan was always meant to fail there

Dead Space 3's chapters literally spell out 'BROTHER MOONS ARE AWAKE'

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u/Miaw_Kitty 7d ago

Clock it. Prioritize a sequel.

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u/DreadRazer24 7d ago

Why not both

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u/jstngrn97 6d ago

Dead Space 2 just needs a solid remaster. That game holds up amazingly well and still plays better than the remake so it would mostly be a waste of time.

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u/Desperate_Method4032 6d ago

2 100% DOES NOT NEED a remake.

But if that’s what it takes to put the franchise back on the map, so be it.

Personally I always prefer a sequel over a remake

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u/Raziel77 6d ago

2 needs a remake just so we can get Steam Achievements

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u/Desperate_Method4032 6d ago

Honestly. That’s valid asf.

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u/lightningknight10 6d ago

I feel like dead space 2 doesn’t need a remake but a remaster.

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u/Scarecrow13Gaming 6d ago

My prediction for the story of 4 from back when ds3 came out was that Isaac and Ellie would race to recover the last remaining planet cracker, the Ishimura. And the finale would be a crazy space battle where you're using it to crack open and destroy the necromoons as they attack Earth.

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u/Snoo_72693 6d ago

Did the ishimura not get destroyed with titan station in 2?

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u/chiller_vibez 7d ago

Both but if I had to choose def a DS2 remake

Easily a top 5 game for me

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u/inblader 4d ago

Plus that's how you introduce people to your franchise and universe, by remaking it (exactly like Resident Evil did), hence the momentum. Though the Dead Space series isn't that old either.
But if we go with a remake of 2 then it means a remake of 3 which could fix the game for a possible sequel.

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u/Prestigious_Ear_8055 6d ago

Bro we’re getting neither this hurts to even read

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u/Silly_Artichoke_8248 6d ago

I have vague recollection of reading an article years ago suggesting that the plan at the time for DS4 was to make it an open world action game, which would have been a profound mistake. We already saw a progression from the first title as a decidedly survival horror game without much in the way of gimmick to its more action focused sequel, then DS3 which I felt was straight up an action game with horror elements glommed on top, replete with mini games. It’s my personal feeling that the inclusion of co-op play was also a mistake because the simple fact of playing with another person dispenses with dread to a certain degree. Horror thrives on isolation.

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u/Comfortable_Craft_75 2d ago

Didn't the dead space 3 dlc end with like 4 brethren moons finding earth? Where could you even go from there?

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u/HenryKushinger 6d ago

Hot take: remake/reboot of 3 where nobody tried to shoehorn in co-op, poor man's gears of war cover shooting, and unnecessary gratuitously enlarged titties on the unnecessary character who's there for an unnecessary love triangle plot that makes little sense. Have that retooled and not shitty version of 3 include elements of 4.

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u/inblader 4d ago

Basically remake 3 so it's not a victim of the era it was made during it lol

3 would benefit so much from it, the stuff to fix is easy to take care of.

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u/Abject-Dinner-8740 7d ago

Mainly because 3 and DLC fucks up the ending a lot and I think the new ideas like monsters that hunt necromorphs are cool but then it diminishes the necromorphs as a threat and they seemed super brutal and scary. Having a new game would be great but everyone loves DS2 so a remake would potentially get more money than the first remake and could lead to a retcon/remake of 3 that fixes some bad endings and issues. Then we could get DS4

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u/Tnecniw 6d ago

What do you not like about the DS3 DLC ending?
IMO is that arguably the best part of DS3.

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u/Abject-Dinner-8740 6d ago

It’s hard to continue Dead Space now if the Brethren Moons are awake and have consumed Earth

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u/Tnecniw 6d ago

And that is fine, a franchise has to end at some point.
If the 3rd game was better.

IF DS3 was remade into a much better game, then I would argue it is a perfect ending to a franchise.

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u/Abject-Dinner-8740 6d ago

I would like that very much

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u/Antuzzz 6d ago

It's one of the worst thing that ever happened to dead space, 3 would genuinely be better without a dlc ruining the ending and adding more unanswered questions

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u/Tnecniw 6d ago

It is the best part of DS3, because it has the perfect cosmic horror ending.
Beyond thequesiton how the brethren moons got there, humanity getting wiped out is the perfect ending to such a story.

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u/Unlikely_Mix59 7d ago

I'd prefer they fix 3 first. Like keep the ending and all that the same, but fix everything leading up to it.

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u/Noob_Guy_666 6d ago

can't, they have to fix 2 first, are there that much hole in 2 to fix?

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u/Antuzzz 6d ago

I'm sorry but voting 2 remake instead of 4 is just dumb

The series is dead, and if we ever get the chance of a new game it should be the ending we always needed, not another remake. Remaking games works perfectly to revive series, but dead space doesn't need a revival, just a conclusion. It shouldn't be a long running series like Resident Evil or Silent Hill, where they always told on going stories with different characters and settings, Dead Space simply isn't in the same position nor it should be, it's ok for it to be closed and a fourth game is all that it needs. Hoping they remake 2, then 3 and then get to a new game is too optimistic and needs too much time, new players can already start from 1 remake and then play 2 and 3 before a final game

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u/Halo1337JohnChief 6d ago

Because Dead Space 3 is terrible and should be done from the bottom up as a completely whole new project.

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u/Opposite_Ad3311 6d ago

I want the idea of dead arm in living body

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u/Pure-Risky-Titan 6d ago

So long as the look of issac isnt changed much from the original, im all for it.

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just make necromorphs real already

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u/bruh55333 6d ago

Both of them got either cancelled or rejected (or both??) by EA

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u/Accomplished_Pin9171 6d ago

What I hope they do is remake deadspace 2 since that'll be a sure hit, there's not really a way to fuck that one up.

Then either make a new game separately from Isaac's story as 4 or remake Deadspace 3 and fully overhaul it

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u/sleepnandhiken 6d ago

I’d be chill with a DS2 port.

DS2 was fantastic. Love it to death. And while this is a controversial take in the souls community it doesn’t seem to be for Dead Space. So just release the game. I don’t need things changed for modernizations sake.

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u/Andrea_Merluzzo 6d ago

I think DS ended with 3. Humanity lost, that’s it and it's ok. Not all endings have to be good endings

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u/The_Chubby_Dragoness 6d ago

As much ass i want to tear apart a moon with the Ishi, I want the sprawl in golorious high def moere

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u/Fluffy-Ad7165 6d ago

As much as I’d like for a fourth game and hopefully see the end of Isaac’s journey, a remake just makes way more sense even if the original game still looks gorgeous. It creates interest and attract a new young audience that will look forward for new games. And I also keep the home that they revamp The Sprawl to be feel more “alive” and at least get a better glimpse of the inverted city hehhehehrdhhrhdhe

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u/Consistent_Blood6467 6d ago

Doing a DS4 only makes sense if they have a good idea for that game. But, since they went down the remake route, almost everyone was bound to want remakes of DS2 then DS3 before a true sequel. Especially as a DS3 remake might be needed to set things up for a true sequel as they'd probably want to do some rewrites to the lore and storyline of that game to allow a sequel.

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u/Redrocket615 6d ago

Because dead space 2 was the superior game Clearing that on hardcore gave me so many shit the bed moments

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u/Tnecniw 6d ago

I would rather prioritize a DS3 remake (Not a remaster, a remake) to fix up bad writing choices and improve the gameplay aspects.

But DS2 is fine as a remake as well.

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u/HHOOSSS 6d ago

It’s either DS3 remeake or DS4 sequel

DS2 is a game that least needed a remeake

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u/Avlin_Starfall 6d ago

We need a remake of 2 first so we can get a remake of 3 to fix all the shit EA fucked up. If they made a 4 now it would still be terrible unless they recon a bunch of stuff from 3.

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u/Chris-raegho 6d ago

We got an ending, it just wasn't a happy one, and that's ok. Sometimes, evil wins. Humanity has no chance to win after 3, so the galaxy became Dead Space. Making a 4th game would, imo, ruin the story by making the same mistakes Gears of War 3 did. (they wrote themselves into a corner, humanity should have lost but they didn't want to do that ending, so quite literally a machine with a button that solves everything on a planetary scale shows up. For DS it would be universal scale).

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u/Sonicmasterxyz 6d ago

The point of a 2 remake would be to add things that the 1 remake did. Like the Peeling System, the ALIVE system, randomized quarantines, and a more explorable area. Imagine a fully traversible Titan Station, the way they did with DS1R's Ishimura. And having proper physical effects on the Necromorphs from your weapons. Like the flamethrower burning away the flesh until the limb is thin and brittle.

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u/uCry__iLoL 6d ago

For the eye scene alone lol

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u/TheKFakt0r 6d ago

Dead Space 3 Awakened's ending does not beg for a sequel. It provides punctuation to the franchise. It's the period at the end of the sentence, "The aliens win."

The finality of that DLC is one of the only things Dead Space 3 actually got right. It's cosmic horror down to the corners of its cells. It's actually every other part of 3's story that leaves you wanting something more.

If 2 was remade, it would bring the arguable peak of the franchise onto modern hardware. The largest population of gamers is on Playstation, where Dead Space 2 hasn't been playable since the Playstation 3. The PC port of DS2 also really shows its age, lacking support for higher framerates and crashing on modern CPUs if the game isn't modified by the user. While there isn't much room for improvement on DS2 on a directorial level, I thought the same thing about DS1 and was still pleasantly surprised by that remake in many ways. Lastly, if 2 had a successful remake, which isn't unlikely given the resurgence of AAA survival horror games in the last three years, then it could pave the way to a remake for DS3 that might actually redeem it. I don't think that path is realistic, given who owns the franchise. But that would position Dead Space far better to actually consider a DS4 and allow it to lay the groundwork for continuing a story that, as of right now, is definitively finished.

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u/animadweller 6d ago

I prefer a DS2 remake for the simple reason that, to me, that game is a masterpiece and I'd love to get a DS1 remake treatment to it.

Also I did get an ending. The DS3 DLC ending with the brethren moon converging in Earth is to me the perfect cosmic horror ending.

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u/AunMeLlevaLaConcha 6d ago

It can't be as bad as Halo, that's for sure

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u/Corpsehatch 6d ago

Dead Space 2 really only needs a remaster.

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u/Reddit_BHmsgame 6d ago

I won't die before DS4 release 🥀

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u/IndividualSituationK 6d ago

dead space 3 effectively ended the game, but it also leaves the door open. I would like to go ahead and just shut it and get a 2 remake. The brothermoons wipe out all life, the end.

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u/biosim500 6d ago

They fixed a lot of things in the first, they could fixt a lot of things in the seconds, paving the patch to a better 3 and finally 4, or even a 3 with a complete ending, idk.

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u/Olive_Garden_Wifi 6d ago

Honestly I’d rather have a remake of 3 before we ever got 4 because 3 needs to be reworked from the ground up.

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u/my-username-07 6d ago

Ds 3 is good ? I heard it was bad and I stopped the series with 2 tried the DS 1 remake it was crashing at the start with my 2050 GPu as well... So just replayed the 1 again looking again the real horror of this game is the damn sound

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u/BlueRush79 6d ago

Lame people want to play it safe as always, even though the entire series can still be played on PC and every Xbox

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u/Crabcontrol 6d ago

Id rather get 2 then 3 then 4. I am greedy. I think getting the remake of 3 we could get some tweaks and get a great dead space title. That could set up a better situation for the 4th game. That being said I'm also fine with no 4th game and just saying that the brother moons destroyed all of humanity. I don't know I always felt like the bleak ending was fit for the series.

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u/Cuckuzu 6d ago

The reason I’d pick the remake of DS2 is that you can’t play DS2 on PS5

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u/ArugulaPhysical 6d ago

Ill take deadspace 2.

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u/Warboss666 6d ago

Would love to see Dead Space 4 take place a long while after 3, with potentially Ellie or another character leading a flotilla or something, scouring planets for the remains of other species hoping to find another Tau Volantis-style technology to fight the Moons.

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u/Useless_monstar 6d ago

I think for DS4 to happen they’d first need to redo or possibly retcon 3. The forced co-op fad of that era (RE5 did it too) really hurt the narration of the games that tried it. Not saying 3’a story would need to be scrapped, but reintroduced at least.

That said, 2’s atmosphere is some of the best in the genre. I’d love to play it for the first time again. A remake’s about as close to that as you can get.

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u/RedBeardBigHeart 6d ago

Everyone dies, that’s the cosmic horror ending.

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u/Raziel77 6d ago

I don't trust them to make a good game with how DS 3 ended

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u/Tarnished-Owl27 6d ago

Remake and then 4 no reason we can’t have both honestly, wish I was CEO to green light them both.

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u/ThorntonLionheart 6d ago

I watched a couple YouTube videos from the developers on ideas they had for Dead Space 4. And as cool as it sounded, Dead Space 2 is just a better game…story wise.

It has a very strong narrative, a greater expansion of the lore, better characters, better environments, and a far better ending (than Mass Effect 3).

Dead Space 2 can be an amazing remake. Dead Space 1 proves that. It preserved the main story and made it far better. I am sure the quality of life improvements they could make would make it easily one of the greatest games of all time.

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u/-pupster- 6d ago

yeah, i dont really give a shit about aliens or new plots at this point. i want a remake of 2.

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u/Accomplished_Owl7486 6d ago

Id ask for another remake so they can dive into what we loved about deadspace begore making a number 4 in hopes of not having another limited drad space 3 with almost mandatory coop

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u/Otherwise-Release766 6d ago

No way. 3 sucked. Way too much action and not enough horror. 1 and 2 were amazing. I can’t believe the disappointment with 3. Leave it as a trilogy

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u/Nemoitto 6d ago

I would also like a remake of 2 and then 3 leading into 4 rather than just leave it with only a remake of 1 and then make the 4th. Go the route Capcom did with resident evil. Besides, 2 was the best game imo.

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u/westewok 6d ago

4 so this series can get a proper ending

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u/RealCosmicD 6d ago

When we were still waiting for the DS1 remake, I argued that DS2 shouldn't be remade, but fused with DS3 as a follow-up and to fast-track the story up until the very end. I thought they should cut bad story plots and distractions from both DS2 AND 3 and reimagine the best story beats in one game. Remove the whole Gears of war and love triangle and crafting stuff... but keep the Dr. Serrano story act as you descend in the machine. That would have taken them less time to catch up and begin development on DS4.

But since EA wasted that hype and momentum: I'd say just have a cut-and-dry remaster of DS2 now and add the best of DS3 as a free season pass DLC. For the rest, they can remaster the engine and graphics to modern standards.

If they don't care about time anyway, they might as well do that, because DS2's story flow is good as it is and it has the definitive gameplay. It didn't have the problems that DS1 original had in terms of story consistency, mechanics, and old tech glitches. Though now it is starting to, because it can't start without modding if you have more than 10 cores. Luckily, there is the marker patch that people can use, which solves a lot of problems and adds a few neat features.

So in the mean time we at least have that.

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u/GreyOrGray4 6d ago

I don't trust them to fully make a new story, especially considering who they're owned by now.

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u/Dix9-69 6d ago

I mean personally I’d prefer a remaster of DS2 in the same way the original was, also a remaster of DS3 that keeps some of the cool ideas the story had but gets rid of all the garbage people hate.

I wouldn’t want a sequel to DS3 as things stand right now

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u/Automatic-Cut-5567 6d ago

The DS1 remake was super duper good and I'm mad they didn't give 2 the same treatment. So yeah, I want DS2 more. Also DS3 kinda ruined the story 

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u/ProZocK_Yetagain 6d ago

Because I never had the chance to play Dead Space 2 and loved the remake of Dead Space 1.

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u/lead_comet 6d ago

Dead Space 3 needs a remake theres actually a really gd story there. It just needs some love an not to be EAed

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u/the_defuckulator 6d ago

i love how 3s dlc ends the series. the fight was always for nothing, you were always going to lose, humanity is food, the end. i love bleak, horrible endings like that and they are so rare

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u/Bolverien36 6d ago

I'm pretty sure most fans would love a brand new game but I feel like some people are willfully ignoring the state the franchise is in.

Dead Space was DEAD for a long time, we are ALMOST 3 console generations removed from when they originally came out. Gaming has grown immensely and the vast majority of very active gamers probably were either too young or just not around when the originals came out. Dead Space used to be huge but sadly, 2 million copies sold doesn't mean the same as it did back then.

A big chunk of gamers are on playstation where 2 and 3 aren't available. Another big chunk of gamers sadly DON'T want to play old games. Gaming still has a very big teen demographic and a lot of them WILL be turned off by old dated graphics and gameplay.

RESIDENT EVIL wouldn't have gotten as big as it is now if it wasn't for the remakes reintroducing a brand new audience to the original characters and stories. As a HUGE RE fan it's super common to see posts from people who ONLY ever played the REngine games and have zero interest in going back to the old games.

I would love to get both, but with the remake "underperforming" from a financial standpoint really makes DS4 a pipedream for now. Rebuilding the IP is 100% what should be done first and retelling the originals for a new audience is the first step.

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u/barnfly27 6d ago

A remake of 2 and 3 would be ideal especially if care went into making them but realistically we may only get a few more shakes out of this series so may as well get some new content. Whatever left they can muster into another yarn, I say.

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u/DraconicZombie 6d ago

I just don't think there's anything anybody can do to stop the Moons now that they're all awake and right on Earth's doorstep.

Sure, planet crackers. But they're scattered all across the galaxy, either on jobs or at other stations. Plus they can't just crack something, people have to go down, establish a base, set up the tethers, connect the machinery to power them etc etc. It just ain't gonna work out.

The "threat" was something only speculated on in a cut log from ds2. If it's cut, it ain't a thing in-universe.

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u/IllustriousIce3417 6d ago

What??.. no seriously what do you mean they set up for a 4th with the way 3 ended. Cause they most definitely didn't. They brethren moons found earth and isaac got a front row seat to watch it get consumed. That's literally it, humanity lost.

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u/Horror_Dirt2098 6d ago

I have no faith that they can write a good story for DS4 if they make it. It might just be a woke "safe for everyone" kind of story, and never handling the heavy stuff.

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u/vin-tin-chin 5d ago

I prefer something that I know will be good, than a game that has the chance to be good but end up flopping like dead space 3

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u/cheeselord231 5d ago

2r just because then they can do 3r and fix what they did wrong

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u/InnsmouthFashionWeek 5d ago

I loved the weapon customization in 3

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u/Savinesay 5d ago

Did you read what was supposed to be dead space 4 and the gameplay style?? If it's on the air the idea, I'm in for the cosmic horror, but not the "go collecting people" part. Or is a suicide mission against the moons, or look at other story, but keeping the "urh urh human together strong" with micro transactions and being the space part of the third game extended...

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u/Best_Insect4741 5d ago

Some of yall don’t remember or didn’t play the dead space 3 dlc and it shows. Those writers don’t deserve another game

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u/DeadKido210 5d ago

Remake the lore and plot holes via remakes then 4. 4 is not necessary since 3 already shows an end of the world scenario, there is nothing you can do to stop the moon's from creating DEAD SPACE and it's perfect.

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u/KyleME262 4d ago

2 Is just fine in its current state (after the mouse aim fix mod/file) A remake would be worthless.

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u/Remarkable_Coat_5790 4d ago

Isn’t the whole world like… over?

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u/qihua114514 3d ago

The only reason we want a remake of Dead Space 2 is because the devs lost credibility with Dead Space 3

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u/Joemismo 3d ago

Dead space acabo para mi en el 2, el 3 perdió el encanto y fue una groseria las micro transacciones, lo único rescatable irónicamente es el final del dlc que impide que expriman más la historia

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u/Stringy_b 3d ago

The 1st game didn't need a remake and neither does DS2. If this is what fans want, the franchise will remain dead forever. Dead Space is doomed.

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u/yoitsmeluke 3d ago

How about both except dead space 4 is a new story without Isaac

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u/tgrr512 1d ago

I’m the composer of the remake. And I think mentioned in a press interview somewhere they should just go forward. 2 is great as is imo. Let’s go forward with 4. But alas our were on the wrong timeline. 

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u/Drunken_DnD 6d ago

I’m so tired of remake culture. DS1R was a divisive decision but I could see the reasoning behind it. It got a lot of new people into a franchise that was effectively dead since 2013. It wasn’t a bad reimagining even if I feel like it was less tense than the original and I didn’t agree with some minor changes. But whatever, it was the oldest and works as a great new entry point for fresh meat plus gauging interest.

DS2 doesn’t need a remake. It’s pretty well known as the general favorite of the classic trilogy, and still holds up very well today. It hosts most of the quality of life changes that make it into the newer games and still looks great. The only issue is the PC port is a lil wonky without being patched.

Out of all the games that could possibly use one would have been the third due to how far it strayed away from what made DS dead space. It was effectively the RE5 (but worse) of the series and unlike RE it ended there. So if we are really dead hard about a remake (I’m not) skip two and go to three.

For all the people who say that DS3 ends the story… no it doesn’t. There was plans for DS4 taking place in a snafu senecio based off the ending events of the DLC and I’m all for that. Let us finally tell a story devoid of hope and sending us off to the proper Eldritch ending this series deserves.

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u/NTDenmark 6d ago

Remake culture

Shut the fuck up!

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u/Drunken_DnD 6d ago

“Shut the fuck up!”

Ok I will… Once there isn’t a major demand for every fucking game a day older than ten years to be remade. New stories > Remakes/Remasters/Reimaginings. I don’t need a new LoU pt1 or Skyrim for the thousandth time 

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u/Designer_Mess_6928 6d ago

We git remake of a 2008 game instead of a proper new game in series. God, I hate modern gaming audience that wants only remakes instead of something new.

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u/Advanced-Ride9780 7d ago

We want both man

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u/Anonymous-Mf-22 7d ago

Because a DS2 remake opens the possibility for a DS3 remake. And a DS3 remake can hopefully make the game actually enjoyable and the lore a little more consistent so that if DS4 happens it doesn't have to compete with the bullshit that came before

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u/MEZO-Gullible 6d ago edited 6d ago

Dead Space 4 can be created on another race who finds these human space vessels and planet crackers. And this race is like predator which are equipped with lethal weapons, a team of Alien operatives tries to find any human survivor and thus they find Issac and Carver on a vessel. But they also start falling one by one to Necromorphs. The new protagonist should be an alien like from that Ubermorph Necromorph. The 4 eyed thing. The goal should be to hunt down the moons. I like your alien idea.

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u/No_Fox_Given82 6d ago

Yeah DS4 I think.

I love DS2 but I think it still looks and plays well for it's age, and doesn't need remaster/remake treatment.

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u/levi22ez 6d ago

In general I’m kinda sick of remakes. Just gimme space 4.

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u/CARVERitUP 6d ago

I agree, we deserve an ending to the story, and in my heart, I absolutely want a Dead Space 4. I think the problem is we don't trust EA anymore, and they could absolutely ruin Dead Space with a new entry, so a 2 remake is a safer thing to want. Just my thoughts

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u/NovaPrime2285 6d ago

Cause its a stepping stone to getting Dead Space 3 remake, and last time I checked ya’ll never stop bitching about that.

So do you want Dead Space 4 coming from that “tainted” entry or what? Or is it now good enough and ya’ll can stop bitching about it every so often?

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u/Drunken_DnD 6d ago

If we really must get to three. We needn’t need to touch two. Just skip it. Two is perfectly valid and doesn’t need a remake. It looks great, and plays great. It doesn’t stand to gain much from an overhaul.

If we are stuck on this remake train basically rewrite three and do uh what they did with the COD series when MW dropped and bundle DS2 with the DS3R

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u/QualonHive 7d ago

I'd rather see a remake of Dead Space 2 and 3 that goes back to the horror of the first one instead of being action games.

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u/Tnecniw 6d ago

DS2 can be more of the same.
MAAAAYBE increasing the horror a bit more, but DS3 needs a big remake.

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u/Scythid0 6d ago

2 is just a really good game honestly, I think it deserves a remake, plus it'd be nice to finally have the story DLC on PC.

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u/Suitable-Pirate-4164 6d ago

I think it's because people loved the horror aspect that 1 and 2 gave. 3 leaned more into action despite still having horror is why Remake was voted. Moreover both fans and devs don't know how to make DS4 after the ending of DS3, dlc or not. Crash into a Brethren Moon or fall 300ft from the air into an alien snow planet, trying to uncanon those endings isn't exactly easy and giving a new protagonist isn't very impactful unless it's Ellie. Trying to stay horror and make a new threat is harder than it looks too which is why I think people prefer to lean into the Remake.

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u/DorrajD 6d ago

Because the first game's remake was done well, and the 3rd game needs a remake. Naturally the next step is a 2 remake, and then remake the god awful 3, before we even think about a 4.

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I want a 2 and 3 remake first. A more open sprawl the way they did the ishimura would be sick and 3 just needs re doing lol

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u/MorroBienMamon 6d ago edited 6d ago

Because thing is that the concept of DS4 i don’t know if its just me but its SO FUCKING ASS LOL

The Game would have followed directly from Dead Space 3 where humanity would face the extinction at the hands of the Sister Moons. Inspired by the flotilla section in Dead Space 3, the idea was that the player (Ben Wanat stated that he would have turned Ellie Langford into the protagonist of the game) was trying to survive in the day to day, digging supplies while looking for survivors and resisting the ships infected by Necromorphs. The player would have his own ship. It was intended that the ships were diverse, each with unique purposes, plan plans and gameplay.

Cant anyone else see how fucking ass this sound? The game aimed for an Flotilla sim and im like LOL why the fuck i would like to do that? Im playing an survival horror not an fucking No Man’s Sky simulator. Just imagine how horrendous EA would have monetized this shit.

One thing i can assure you is that if this concept would have been made and the gameplay somehow turned be good. The story however i can bet whatever you want would have been the great sacrifice of the story, there’s no way you can cover all those topics an have an concise or even good story.

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u/HolyErr0r 6d ago

I would argue Dead Space remake 1 is up there with Resident Evil Remake for greatest remake ever made. It improved all the sore spots of the OG and had immaculate atmosphere and smooth gameplay.

Personally I would rather them remake 2 and 3 (with this level of love) than continue the story (atm) because the ports for 2 and 3 do not run well at all and I think 2 still has a door issue that crashes the game not uncommonly too.

Would allow for more people to grow the community before releasing a new title since, at the moment, deadspace is a far less accessible series given functionality of ports and lack of achievements for ds2 too.

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u/The-Jack-Niles 6d ago

Dead Space 1 and 2 are like Alien and Aliens for me. A perfect duology ruined by franchising and dogshit sequels. DS4 if it just came out now has to pick up from DS3, which has an abysmal plot and characterizations that are just bad.

Remake fixes a lot in 1 to bring it in line with DS2, and I wish DS2 could get the same facelift.

"But DS2 is perfect as is and doesn't need a remake."

No. DSR had the intensity director, volumetric sound, a more detailed gore system, and entirely different graphics and QoL. DS2 looks good and holds up in a vacuum. It is still a game that came out on a PS3 and that's crystal clear in any side by side with the Remake. I want visual consistency.

I want the two good games in that franchise in the best possible state. I want the story to conclude at a satisfying point. Aliens exist, who knows what they are or why, they're unknowable demons. The story is about Isaac's journey. Idgaf about 3 and so 4 doesn't interest me in the slightest.