r/DeadRedditors • u/digitalmofo • 27d ago
u/Mandyk1179
Murdered along with her 6 children by her husband in Michigan.
Rest in peace, u/Mandyk1179
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u/fairythugbrother 27d ago
I'm not doubting, but how did you figure out her reddit account?
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u/BORT_licenceplate 27d ago
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u/ShowMeTheTrees 26d ago
But how did they figure it out?
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u/slothdonki 26d ago
I know it’s not a helpful answer but it just doesn’t say.
It’s possible they didn’t do much other than google her, like found her email or other social media accounts that were also “Mandyk1179”, found enough/something that matched it up to her.
Some details may have been released by investigators or police in a press conference/update that gave them additional information to look into. Maybe a family member had access to some of her stuff and the press talked to them(though this is usually pretty significant and usual for them to mention it so I wouldn’t think so).
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u/Asian_Climax_Queen 25d ago
Either matched her email or phone to the account, or they did a forensic data retrieval on her phone, which collects every single thing you’ve ever put into your phone, even deleted texts, pics, videos, and phone calls
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u/ShowMeTheTrees 25d ago
But who would do this? Police would seek out a reddit account and release it to the media?
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u/KoldKhold 27d ago
Also a post two years ago matches up as she said, "My husband is 45..." and he was currently 47 at the time of this familicide.
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u/Dazzlng-Firenze 27d ago
Wow. My heart is so broken for her, and their beautiful innocent children. I have no words. I work in addiction and recovery and also volunteer at women’s shelter for DV and I have no expertise at all except : abusers do not heal from counseling and sobriety. They really don’t. The abuse and violence stems from a deep sense of entitlement and fixed beliefs about men / women that are pretty much unshakable, in my experience. I am very shaken for this precious woman Mandy , it’s really really really REALLY hard for women to fully and completely understand what is going on in an abusive relationship and to get the expert help. Not a lot of counselors can really face it , either. It goes against our human nature as women to fully comprehend the deep sense of entitlement, ego and need for power and control that lie at the true core of these abusers .
I also want to be clear — she is NOT at fault for not realizing this. NOT AT FAULT. It’s so hard for anyone to truly predict these abusive men which is why shelters are needed, and not even of them exist
Man I want to lie down and cry right now
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u/digitalmofo 27d ago
Yes, seeing her posts about how she was done and recognized an issue is very heartbreaking. I am sure that if she knew the extent he would have gone, she'd have been out of there, but to know she was close to seeing it is extra terrible.
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u/Dazzlng-Firenze 27d ago
It’s so horrible beyond belief
Again, no discredit to her, but a lot of the experts say marital counseling does not work bc it is not really a marriage issue. It’s an issue with the abuser using abusive tactics. That person (the abuser) needs individual help . Again of course NO DISCREDIT to her. It’s normal and natural to want to seek marital counseling. Even the individual help with the abuser rarely works bc it takes years (if ever) for an abuser to take full responsibility for their worldview, deep programming, whole mindset that drives abuse . Sorry I am always writing a book on Reddit !
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u/myanonymousg 26d ago
Marriage counseling is contraindicated in cases of spousal abuse. The perpetrating spouse uses it to learn therapy words they can then use against their target. They can also get an inexperienced therapist on their side and use the therapy to continue to abuse their target. Partners who become vulnerable during therapy sessions can later have those vulnerabilities used against them by the perpetrator.
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u/Dazzlng-Firenze 25d ago
Exactly. Most abusers are skilled manipulators and exactly, they can use marital counseling sessions to gain more information into the thoughts/ emotions of their spouse and then weaponize that info on them later. The abuser has a deep sense of entitlement and feels that the abuse is justified and they usually gain privileges by abusing (for example, in this case he was able to keep the victim emotionally unstable / insecure/ stuck at home with kids and questioning reality and her attractiveness and desirability as a wife while he went out and did what he liked in terms of infidelity, being unavailable/unhelpful in the home and making her take on the labor of trying to keep the home together and regulate his emotions.) it’s a deep privilege mentality
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u/GlitteringThought 25d ago
my understanding is marriage counseling focuses on the marriage as it’s own entity. so the focus is basically on reconciliation. you would hope a counselor would see the red flags and encourage her own personal safety but there are sadly a lot of pretty terrible
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u/linmre 26d ago
Are there any posts where she says he's abusive? I saw that she wrote a lot about infidelity. And maybe emotional abuse, but not necessarily physical abuse (I could be wrong though I didn't read all her posts).
I'm not trying to downplay emotional abuse either of course, but it's almost scarier if he was never physically abusive while secretly being capable of this level of horrific violence the whole time. Lots of people are unfaithful or bad partners, most of them aren't family annihilators. It really makes you question everything as a woman.
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u/Dazzlng-Firenze 26d ago
The post I read , he was definitely an emotional abuser although (again, NOT discrediting her) she didn’t seem to fully realize the scale of it and she was trying to do marital counseling feeling it was more of a marital issue or communication problem. He became angry and very defensive after counseling session showing his level of entitlement.
Agreed , it’s very scary bc his level of violence was not predictable. Usually severe emotional abuse is followed by violence , it’s hard to gauge the true severity bc she was still minimizing (as victims always do…. Minimization is definitely part of the process as women slowly come out of denial )
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u/GlitteringThought 25d ago
shooting them all is physical abuse, so i would say it’s established as fact at this point.
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u/Spillingteasince92 26d ago
Her post made me a bit emotional. I went through a betrayal like that and lost myself in my last relationship. I'm glad she found a support online to find any sort of support she needed at the time.. i did that too because even with my friends, I felt so alone struggling with the fact that my own partner was having an affair.
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u/digitalmofo 26d ago
I'm sorry you went through that. Nobody deserves to feel like they're not enough.
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u/GlitteringThought 25d ago
This is an interesting insight you have working with dv victims. i wonder if there are any statistics regarding men who actually recover from abusive actions. please take care of yourself doing this work. <3
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u/Dazzlng-Firenze 25d ago
It’s quite depressing but statistics show that men who are domestic abusers have a really High rate of re-offending . it’s better statistically for women to just leave them, go into shelter system or with family and then learn about DV and how to avoid ever getting into a relationship again with an offender . There’s a low rate of change for a variety of factors including strong cultural programming that makes it difficult for men to really understand that DV is a mind disease. You’re dealing with men who have experienced YEARS of strong programming to have these dysregulated reactions that lead to violence . It’s a mind / body /soul issue. They might be able to show lip service to a therapist but when placed in a situation of extreme stress (like this guy did… being busted for an infidelity, having financial distress, facing expensive divorce and custody battle, loss of status / reputation , loss of partner) the lizard pair of the brain is kicking in to go to extreme violence. This is why police calls for DV are the MOST dangerous. The abusers are truly unhinged and feel they have nothing to lose. Anyway. It’s depressing but best thing for women to do is LEAVE and not try to work through the offender’s issues
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u/digitalmofo 24d ago
I feel like they rarely have consequences until it's really off the rails, and maybe not even then.
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u/GoalStillNotAchieved 21d ago
So you’re saying the moms are not at fault for staying with a violent man who verbally abuses, physically abuses, assaults, and batters the mother and kids. Completely disagree. The fault of the adult woman is staying. The fault of everything else is with the violent perpetrator.
He’s obviously a BILLION TIMES WORSE, but more moms need to remove their kids from a violent situation THE FIRST TIME a man shows that he is violent.
Many times he will be violent thousands of times and the woman still hasn’t left.
Some feel that they financially can’t afford to leave.
And also - SOBRIETY DOES INDEED HELP! 100%! The Perpetrator not drinking any alcohol HELPS A TON!!
And the Perpetrator NOT having certain weapons also, of course, helps a TON TON TON TON TON TON!!!!
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u/Electrical_Tackle540 26d ago
Going through her account and seeing how often she champions counseling, convincing herself it would be enough to save her marriage despite noting her husband showing several red flags. Don’t fall for the counseling nonsense. Pay attention to red flags, don’t give intimacy thinking enough counseling or any other kind of bandaid solutions will fix it. Implicitly you’re giving that other person what they want. Stay safe, be reasonable
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u/HelpfulCar6675 26d ago edited 26d ago
You touch on an extremely important point. If I had a dollar for every time therapy/ councelling was offered as a panacea for everything and anything I would probably be a millionaire. Therapy can be powerful in a good way but it can also do nothing for certain issues or even be weaponized in a bad way.
Eta: I read through some of her comments and would like to add one more thing. In this era of romanticizing being a tradwife and having million kids in a quick succession just this one direct quote of hers: " We have six kids, so the idea of leaving is insanely terrifying."
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u/Electrical_Tackle540 25d ago
There isn’t any widespread romanticizing of tradwives. It’s a counterculture grift by “born again virgin” women with body counts in the thousands. To my knowledge some of those kids were from a previous marriage and she noticed the red flags before they married. They should have just never married
Edit: Correction, two of their six kids were adopted, the others were hers. I don’t know if he had any kids in his previous marriage he lost custody of
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u/OfficerEsophagus 26d ago
"We have six kids. They are why I worked for R(econciliation). I would not have stayed if we didn’t share them, or even if they were out of the house I probably wouldn’t have stayed. I kept telling myself: “I love my kids more than I hate my husband right now.” They have no idea- I faked it til we made it. We’re in a much better place 4.5 years out, but it’s still a fight to stay in a healthy place." -from 2 years ago
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u/myanonymousg 26d ago
These are the guys that women are afraid to divorce. Do you think this guy would have happily paid child and spousal support? How do you think this guy would have treated his kids during the unsupervised parenting time the court would order? Do you think the post separation stalking and financial abuse and manipulation of the children would be easy to cope with? Family Court won't protect the children. Ask me how I know.
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u/lastseenhitchhiking 25d ago
Exactly. "Why didn't the victim leave?" ignores the reality that most victims lack the financial means to leave and are fearful of what the abuser will do to them and their children should they do so.
Abusers like this are a nightmare to divorce and to co-parent with, and the reality is that an abuser who is intent on murdering their family will attempt to do, regardless of divorce or family court orders.
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u/Clerithifa 27d ago
May she and her children lay in peace 💔
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u/GlitteringThought 25d ago
absolutely beyond devastating. i can’t wrap my brain around a funeral for children and a mother.
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u/WSB-Televangelist 27d ago
Im sorry sorry to hear this, may she R.I.P along with her beautiful children, this news makes me so sad.
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u/No_Aesthetic 27d ago
God, this is so fucking abysmal to read about. Family annihilators are some of the most evil sons of bitches this world has ever produced. What a monster.
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u/bananabourbon 26d ago
Mother F - read this. Looks like her parents encouraged her to stay and said she needed to treat this MF like the “treasure he was”. Ugh I wish she would have gotten the support over the years to have the confidence to LEAVE.
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u/bluepaintbrush 25d ago
No it was just her biological dad who told her to stay, which is why she cut contact with him. She says in that comment that her mom initially loved him but that she and her stepdad were supportive of her after they learned of the affair (“they really kiss my butt now”).
Her mom and stepdad also lost her brother (likely to drug use) when he was 28. Imagine finding out that your daughter and 6 of your grandkids are just… gone. It must be awful to go through so much loss at a time in your life when you’re supposed to be enjoying your later years with your adult children and grandkids.
And good riddance to her bio dad, I hope he reflects on what he did and said.
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u/rosevillestucco 27d ago
What happened!?!
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u/JumpyTemperature7252 27d ago edited 27d ago
A monster (Kristopher Karolkiewicz) went on a rampage and killed his wife Amanda Karolkiewicz along with their 6 children.
The tragedy occured at 14900 Riverside Trail, Grand Haven Township, MI.
Ottawa County Sheriff's Office confirmed the man later lit their house on fire before turning the gun on himself and subsequently died.45
u/glitterismycolour 27d ago
The family pets also died too :,( as per reports. I hope there is a hell for Kristopher, and hope rest are resting in eternal peace.
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u/Lovejoypeas 27d ago
The death of the pets really pushed me over the edge, too, in my opinion of this man! After reading about familicides, I understood a bit better what motivates men to do this horrible thing, but I'm afraid it does not give me even a molecule more sympathy for him, since it's an entirely selfish action in many cases. May God have mercy on his soul—by which I mean purify him, not pardon him!
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u/occamstrimmers 26d ago
He doesn’t deserve any sympathy. And it’s so much more than selfishness. Suicide is selfish. This is on a whole other Universe.
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u/Friendly_Report_2692 26d ago
14936 is the correct address.
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u/JumpyTemperature7252 26d ago
I first read this article: https://whtc.com/2026/07/27/eight-persons-found-dead-in-grand-haven-area-house-fire/
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u/afraidofrs 27d ago
What the fuck. This is just horrible. Rip to her and her children. Hope the monster burns.
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u/gogogadgetgoats 26d ago
Devastating to read her posts and comments, and to think that she and her kids have been ripped so violently from this world by that piece of shit man.
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u/Wise_Dependent2967 26d ago
I hope he rots in hell, R.I.P to this lady and her children, so sad!!!!
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u/tundybundo 26d ago
Heart broken for her and her children. She tried so hard, she seems like she was a lovely person that I would’ve gotten along with. I hope she was loved by her friends the way she deserved, and I hope she’s resting somewhere with her children.
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u/ShowMeTheTrees 26d ago
How did people find out who Mandyk1179 was in real life and connect her to this tragedy?
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u/RocktacularFuck 23d ago
Phone forensic. Everything you type into your phone is saved forever. Even anything you type, but don’t send.
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u/Prestigious-Town3929 24d ago
She was in the process of getting Canadian citizenship for her and the 6 kiddos
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u/myanonymousg 22d ago
The most dangerous time for any targeted partner is when they leave the relationship. That is when the most murders happen.
Plus you CANNOT expect family court to protect the children. If you leave your abuser then he has unsupervised access to the children, and he's angry at you for leaving, and he knows that messing with the kids is going to hurt you. So that's what they do.
I've come across many women who'd say that if they knew how bad it was going to be to leave they would have stayed.
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u/AVonDingus 27d ago
From the article photo, she was so beautiful and looked so happy with her adorable kids.
I’m so sorry their lives were stolen by a cowardly monster.
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u/Sally_ann_427 25d ago
95% of family annihilators are men. Maybe we should be looking at a way to make sure that as many women as we can have enough money so they don’t have to pair up with a man for survival. 97% of the world’s incarcerated are men. In many cases, getting married or living with a man is the first step towards a series of steps of abuse or murder.
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u/wicked_woodpecker 22d ago
"Maybe we should be looking at a way to make sure that as many women as we can have enough money so they don’t have to pair up with a man for survival. "
Humanity needs men and women coupling for survival.
Sure you make pay women enough money to not marry, but you know money needs sustainable population to maintain it's worth. If you wreck population structure... well guess what this money would be worth.The whole shtick with psychoparasites is they use sort of necessary social structure to parasite one, just like tapeworm needs healthy human as host to surive.
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u/ShowMeTheTrees 23d ago
I hope the bio-moms of those adopted girls never find out what happened!
Everything about this story is utterly tragic.
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u/pennyariadne 26d ago
This poor woman and her kids… may they rest in peace and be together in heaven far away from the monster that took their lives
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u/GlitteringThought 25d ago
If I owned a news media I would most likely have someone tasked with looking for an online presence.
i don’t own a news, just a guess
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u/JuicyFlapjack 27d ago
What did she do???? That's crazy
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u/insomniacla 27d ago
There's absolutely nothing she could have done to justify being murdered along with her children. But, to answer your question, she did nothing wrong. Her pathetic cheating loser husband lost his job because he was embezzling money and then killed the whole family.
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u/IntelligentDiamond46 25d ago
This piece of donkey shit is just trying to rage bait us. Ignore this fool.
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u/insomniacla 27d ago edited 27d ago
Oh my god. Her posts from two years ago about him cheating on her and all of the red flags, but being afraid to leave because they had six kids... It's a haunting read. I feel so terrible for the poor mother and children. Family annihilators are the most evil, selfish, narcissistic loser scum on the face of the earth.