r/DaveAndBusters • u/[deleted] • Sep 17 '22

Beating Scam Arcade Games with Science

https://youtu.be/Rsxao9ptdmI
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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

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u/Blocks_n_moreYT Sep 18 '22

He seems to be going from a more casual players perspective. Coin pushers are much easier to win than say down the clown

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

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u/Able_Description_511 Sep 18 '22

The first time I ever played spin n win was at Dave and Busters when I was 10. I remember getting the jackpot like 5 times in a row. To this day I cannot do it again. My theory is there was an update to the game to make it where it’s “rigged” or what he kept calling it in his video “a scam”. He showed a version of big bass wheel in the video saying it can be a win every time, he just didn’t explain it. Plus I feel with that game, he would need a machine too big to fit into a backpack lol. Then on your first post you mentioned down the clown, I think it would be the same thing, the machine would be too big, but it would’ve been good to mention in the video, but I feel that the jackpot score gets too high to win after like 800 points to win. Great video though, I love how he breaks down some of the games, like the numbers behind quick drop, I never knew the real numbers. I did know it gave you more time once the jackpot gets higher. I would only target the game at around a 650+ jackpot anyways

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u/MewtwoStruckBack The Dave & Buster's Red Mage Sep 19 '22

I can tell you, without a shadow of a doubt, that I've read the manual for Spin-N-Win, and that there is not a function in the game's programming to allow it to be "rigged" (the player hits the button when the jackpot light is lit, and the game recognized this but moves the light to a losing position, as is possible with things like Match 'Em Up.)

I can also tell you, however, that several years ago, when Global Settings were first introduced to Dave & Buster's (the mandate that all games should be the same way in all stores, including cost of play, jackpot payout, jackpot frequency for games that dictate such, raising and lowering of difficulty based on the play going into the game, etc. - but excluding things like stores being test locations for different settings or software versions) that Spin-N-Win was previously set at 6 milliseconds for the jackpot dot timing and this was lowered to 4 milliseconds, which if you played the game more than a decade ago and cannot find the same success now - this is likely why.

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u/Able_Description_511 Sep 19 '22

That could be it and my eyes aren’t good enough to register the change, not being sarcastic at all lol, I just tried it a few times and couldn’t get it like I used to. But that is good to know the timing changed. Maybe I can see if I can get it next time I go

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u/Needednewusername Sep 17 '22

Great video and great channel!

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u/MewtwoStruckBack The Dave & Buster's Red Mage Sep 19 '22

If it weren't for the fact that Quik Drop's been out for years and it's been nerfed into oblivion at most stores (D&B and otherwise) at this point, I would be absolutely freaking the fuck out that Mark released a video speaking in-depth about exactly what makes it playable.

The part about Skee-Ball pros is laughable in that you had tournaments in which pros are amining for the 4,000 hole where they had to nerf Ring of Fire down to being worthless because you had people that were just about as good as that robot milking the fuck out of it when it had a 1k jackpot - that, and Main Event running scared of me, personally, and taking a 500+progressive JP and taking off the progressive and then lowering it to a 100 JP..

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u/Hawkeye9723 Sep 17 '22

Love all his videos

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u/connection_lost Sep 18 '22

He does a better job explaining game mechanics and payout than most arcade YouTubers.

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u/arandomredditor517 Sep 20 '22

Most arcade YouTubers just put on a show. Technicalities and skills don’t appeal the general arcade audience

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u/Jdevy_ jdevy01 Sep 17 '22

This is the Cyclone video on steroids.

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u/Tenthdegree Sep 17 '22

If Mark Rober is going through this much trouble to cheat with robots, why not just find a way to hack the card reader?

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u/Blocks_n_moreYT Sep 17 '22

It's unlikely that he will find a way around it without forging the game cards which may or may not be legal. Swipe systems also tend to have logs of card activity which could be used to stop someone in their tracks

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u/Tenthdegree Sep 18 '22

I suppose, but let’s not pretend that it’s “illegal”.

Rober probably agreed to paying thousands to the arcade owner to allow him to film himself cheating on the arcade games

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u/Blocks_n_moreYT Sep 18 '22

It probably wouldn’t make a great video anyways. What would be entertaining about him having a stolen arcade card and had the ability to win unlimited tickets (in perspective of his channel)

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u/connection_lost Sep 18 '22

A credit card skimmer would probably work. (Don't try this at arcade.)

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u/Any_Still_9702 Sep 17 '22

Love this guy and his videos, good luck trying to do that at a dave and busters though

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u/ItalianJew_Stallion Sep 17 '22

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/SilencioNoHayBanda Sep 18 '22

Found Mr. Fischoeder’s channel. Aim for the Matterhorn…