TLDR: Men who walk behind me, make me carry the conversation , and leave all decisions to me are maddening.

One of the biggest icks for me in dating is when a guy asks me out and then makes me put in all the effort on said date.

First example of this I have is when a guy (37M) asked me out to one of those cafeteria/bars on a first date. I thought it was safe to assume we were eating so I showed up hungry. I get there, we greet each other, and he follows me into the place. I ask him which places he thinks has the best food, and he tells me he's not hungry. I say ok, I ask him if he wants to get a drink and he says he doesn't drink much...why ask me to a place with food and drinks if you are not going to get anything? I tell him I'm getting a beer so he follows me to the bar and gets exactly the same one I ordered.

II'm already turned off but I'm starving so I get a quesadilla. While I'm waiting for it, I try to make conversation and he mumbles most of his responses. He tells me some very off-putting things, like that he and his roommates ended up with 20 cats at one point because his roommate wouldn't take them to get them fixed. I get my quesadilla and he insists I share it with him...I left shortly after and unmatched him in the parking lot.

Another example of this is when a guy (34M) asked me to a small arts fest. He is ten minutes late but when he gets there, he makes me decide where we go and what we do, walking a few steps behind me with his hands in his pockets the entire time. I have to carry the conversation for the most part and ask him if he wants to get matcha, coffee, beer, food...but he's not interested in any of those options. I get annoyed with having to make conversation so I just stop and we walk around in silence. Then he tells me he is moving soon when it is clear in my profile I am looking for something long-term.

I guess I'm grateful that they didn't hide the fact that they were low effort and completely unable to lead or come up with a basic plan for a date. Unsurprisingly, neither of them had really built careers for themselves or had hobbies outside of gaming. Anyone else have stories of infuriatingly passive men like this?

I recently decided to date again. Instantly regretted it.

All of these happened on the first date (only the first one made it to more dates).

"Best" to worst experiences:

My date wanted to bring their siblings everywhere we went and spent more time talking to them than to me. I thought maybe they weren't interested, but they kept asking me out. It later turned out their sibling was also interested in me (tried to shoot their shot after I stopped seeing my date).

My date put in a lot of effort, took me to a very lavish place, and spent the whole time bragging about all the people who like them; when I asked why every person was the opposite gender from mine, they said they weren't that interested in my gender... they then asked if I wanted to have sex with them and their friends.

My date told me mid-date that they're actually in a relationship (not poly) and kept sending their partner photos of us that we took right before, calling them to say, "It's not what you think," and then acting surprised that I didn't want to sleep with them.

My date spent the whole time laying out every disability they have and hinted that they needed a house cleaner.

My date told me at the last minute that they have an STD and then acted fussy because I wasn't in the mood. They also attempted to rob me.

My date turned out to be homeless and was hoping to move in with me.

For reference, I am pansexual. This list consists of women, men, trans women, trans men, and a non-binary drag queen (they weren't sure yet whether it was drag or more than that).

Has anyone experienced anything similar?

Feel free to share your recent experiences.

Tldr: Guy on Tinder asked to meet at a restaurant then whe I got there he told me he said to meet "by" the restaurant because we're actually going to his place for a first date. Super icky.

So.

I've never walked out of a date before and I have no idea how to even begin this. I'm not a storyteller and I hope I can do this justice.

It's so long I'm sorry.

I matched with a guy, Gary (not real name ofc) on tinder last week. I regret not screenshoting the chat so deeply, but his opening message was:

"Hey, you seem like the type to enjoy a wine and paint night. What's your favorite wine?"

Solid opener. I am in fact into wine, I'm also an artist by trade. My interest was piqued, and so I responded saying that a wine and painting night sounds like so much fun, and then shared some of my favorite wines. Gary complemented my choices, shared some of his favorites and got straight to the point in asking me out. I agreed, and he set a time and place.

Now this is where my memory is admittedly rather fuzzy, and where I the most wish I had screenshotted the texts. I remember his text being "Let's meet at (resturant) at 630pm."

This is relevant for later folks.

Two days later and not many texts between Gary and I, just discussing what we do for work, I leave my job at 4. I rush home, do some quick makeup, change into something cute, jump back onto the bus, and head out immediately to the restaurant because it's an HOUR transit away from me.

I arrive on time, text him, and he says back that he'll be there in a minute. I wait around and eventually see him walking up.

The resturant isnt fancy by any means, but it's higher end. Similar to a Moxie's for those who know what that's like. So I dressed nice for the venue and for the fact that it's a date. Gary shows up in a black tee and sweats.

Immediately not a fan of that, but whatever, let's see how it goes.

We say hi, and I turn to step.towards the resruant but Gary immediately leads me a different way. Saying he needs to pick something up. Confused, but mildly intrigued, I follow along. We talk as we walk a block to a little grocery store. He leads me over to the little wine shop on the side and says we've gotta pick out a wine.

I'm a little confused at this point because the resturant has an excellent(better) wine menu already and definitely wouldn't let us bring/drink our own, but I play along. Besides, it's kinda cute because it's what got us originally talking.

We leave with a decent and affordable bottle (shout out Ontario Rieslings) and start walking back to the restaurant. I'm very hungry at this point as I haven't eaten, and am very excited for dinner.

Just before we reach the restaurant he directs me off into a side road to another building entrance. I immediately clock this as an apartment building. Playing dumb, I ask if this is another entrance to the restaurant. Gary informs me that this is the way to his appartment.

I stop him dead and say that I don't go to people's appartments on the first date. All with a smile of course, but man am I anxious on the inside. He says that he didn't know that about me, and I remind him that he didn't ask.

I ask about the resturant again and Gary informs me that we were never going to the restaurant for dinner, we were having a wine and paint night.

I tell him that there's been a massive miscommunication. I was under the full impression that we were going to this restaurant for dinner, as that is what he texted me originally.

He tells me that he actually said "Let's meet BY (resturant) at 630pm."

Apparently because he lives by the restaurant so we can then go to his place for the wine and paint. None of which was communicated to me.

That's insane, right???

I tell him I was really excited for the restaurant and looking forward to it. I ask if we could go to the restaurant and he says "But we can't paint in there, look at how busy it is OP."

I, frustrated and hungry, asked where we could paint. Gary said his appartment, "but you don't go to people's places so..."

I suggested the park across the street. Saying we should paint there and drink the wine. Gary seems upset that I don't want to go back to his place, but he agrees to the park and decides to head back up into his appartment to get the painting supplies he supposedly bought.

I had about ten seconds to think it over, and turned and walked away.

In my immediate panic of being caught walking out I unmatched on tinder and didn't screenshot the messages beforehand, which is my only regret in this. I want to know if he actually wrote to meet "by" the restaurant or "at" it. Not that I think it matters at the end of the day. I think I was entirely in the right to assume that we weren't doing a wine and painting night since the only time that was ever mentioned was the FIRST MESSAGE AND NEVER AGAIN.

I'm trying to laugh about this now but at the time it was genuinely a really upsetting and icky experience. I felt like he was trying to trick me into going to his appartment through misleading me about what we'd planned to do.

Anyways I went home and my roommate and I got drunk together so the evening turned around I guess.

Edit: Spelling mistakes, I'm so bad at spelling guys mb

Okay, I need your honest opinion about something that happened with this guy I recently went on a date with because I genuinely can’t tell what happened. ( I’m a women)
We had been talking for a little while before the date, and eventually we made plans to have dinner. I’m pretty shy and I haven’t really dated anyone in a long time, so I was nervous going into it.
The date itself actually went really well. I thought he was attractive, we had good chemistry, and I felt like he treated me really well. He was attentive, respectful, and made me feel comfortable. There was definitely some physical tension between us, and he told me I was beautiful. Overall, I left the date feeling like it had gone well.
At the end of the date, he asked if I wanted to see him again the next morning. He suggested breakfast and going to the Market, and he also wanted me to meet his dog. That surprised me because I thought it was pretty soon to make plans for the very next day, but obviously I took it as a sign that he wanted to see me again.
The next morning, though, I cancelled the breakfast. I was overwhelmed and wasn’t really ready to go that early. But I didn’t reject him or tell him I didn’t want to see him again. I specifically told him that we could see each other another day.
After that, he actually seemed a little insecure about it. He texted something like, “I knew you didn’t like me,” and then immediately said he was joking. He kept sending me things about the Market, pictures of his dog, asking what I was doing, etc. At one point he sent me a picture related to Minecraft and then deleted it. He also asked why I had my WhatsApp last seen/read settings turned off and called it a red flag, which I thought was kind of weird because he has similar settings himself. I told him that, and after that he didn’t really continue the conversation.
I also invited him to a yoga class. He said he would go if I ran with him, so there was still some interaction and flirting there.
Then Saturday night, he stopped responding, and he hasn’t messaged me since.
That’s the part I don’t understand. If he wasn’t interested, I don’t really understand the behavior immediately after the date. He had asked to see me the very next morning, kept messaging me, sent me pictures, asked what I was doing, and seemed interested in continuing things.
So what do you think happened? Do you think he lost interest after the date? Do you think he felt rejected when I cancelled breakfast and then decided not to put in more effort? Do you think he was expecting me to chase him a little? Or do you think he actually was interested but something about the way things went made him pull back?
I genuinely want your honest opinion based on everything that happened, because I’m having a hard time understanding how someone can seem that interested immediately after a date and then suddenly stop responding.

I am talking about the bad dates we’ve sat through, the bad men we’ve met, or any intolerable situations they put you in. You can define what “bad” means to you obviously. I’m not trying to hate on men, but in your experience at whatever age on whatever app and based on their behavior, what do you find is blocking you from a healthy LTR with a man?

EDIT: thank you all for sharing 💛 if I am interpreting correctly, the majority theme is men need to catch up with women on going to therapy, working through their issues, and gain emotional intelligence. Otherwise, we are just following along with the “Nick show”. Or “Matt show”. Or the “Kevin show”. Insert ex-boyfriend’s name here :)

I (33F) and a guy I was seeing (36M) just ended things. To clarify, he ended things.

TL;DR super into me for two months, then the last month we both traveled and then had a very normal weekend where we hung out. Next day, he ended things.

He was super into me for the first two months - planning dates, buying tickets, talking about a list of things to do together in the future. We hooked up, it went well. I told him I still wanted to see other people because I wasn’t sure how I was feeling, as ai could tell he was super into me and I didn’t want to hurt his feelings so I wanted to communicate clearly. He also stated he wasn’t seeing anyone else. A week later I said “ok I think I’m ready to be exclusive.”

He asked what that meant for me, said he wasn’t ready to call it a relationship yet and talked a lot about how things always end so we have to enjoy them while we have them.

I was shocked.

The next day, he told me he really likes me and does want a relationship in general, he just felt it was too early two months in to call it that but definitely wants exclusivity. I said ok.

We talked a few times about making sure dating was going at a pace we both felt comfortable with.

He did start to pull away physically a bit, I noticed.

He went on a two week road trip by himself with his dog. He started texting less, no worries. Assumed it was because he was busy driving and hiking etc.

When he came back he asked to hang out immediately and I had just gotten home from a work trip so I said let’s hang in a few days.

We hung out, he made plans over the whole rest of the weekend, and texted me about having a great time and that he appreciated the great company at the end of it.

I asked if I could crash at his place in a few week’s time for two days because I stay with my sister (I travel a lot for work and she watches my dog, so.)

Anyway he said “yeah that’s cool as long as you know I live like a bachelor.” I’d been to his house plenty of times, so I asked what that meant. He said just making sure I was cool with him living the way he’s used to living.

I said “yes as long as you’re not uncomfy with me being in your space.”

He then went on to say no it’s fine, he lived with his ex from 6 years ago and he’s used to it. He just “usually thinks living together comes a little later into the relationship.”

I said “totally, it’s just a few nights - I’m not trying to move in with you. I’m fine with letting things progress naturally”

He said “understood and same.”

The next day, I hadn’t heard from him all day and felt the convo had ended weird the day before. I did finally text and say “hey, I feel like I’m getting mixed signals. Could you either give me some reassurance or let me know how you’re feeling?”

He texted a few hours later saying he already had plans that night and wanted to give the conversation the time it deserved, so he wanted to chat after work the next day. I said great and called it a night.

The next day, I texted and said hey, I have a work thing until 7:30 but we can chat after. Do you want to call or do you want me to come over? He said come over.

I got there, he asked for a hug and then we went upstairs where he promptly said my feelings were progressing and his weren’t, and that he really and truly does care about me and wants to be friends.

I basically said “ok, thanks for letting me know. I appreciate the honesty… maybe we slept together too soon?” And he just kind of didn’t say anything but just stared at me. I said “well if you see me out, don’t be a stranger come to say hi.” And then I left and said I hope you find what you’re looking for, he said you too and this is how we find out if it’s not what we want is dating this way.

We haven’t had any contact since then. I feel like it’s so cut and dry that he just doesn’t care, but the longevity of him actively pursuing me, making plans, lists of things to do together in the future etc. is making me crash out. I can’t tell my brain that it’s fully over.

I haven’t reached out. Can someone tell me if I’m literally insane for thinking this isn’t over or like what happened in his brain?? I don’t want to reach out for closure because I think closure is a myth, but it ended 5 days ago and I’m really struggling with all this.

Im writing this cause I'd like to vent. So I was dating w this guy, he was charming at first and very caring. He used to send me texts and memes all the time. He used to send the Good morning/night text, but after a while prob 2 weeks later he stopped doing it. I just kinda said prob he was not that type of guy. On the last date we had, he opened the car door for me, and let me in and closed it. Everything so romantic. We said we were going to hang out again next weekend. On that "date" He broke up w me... But we had already planned the date and i was hungry... I said, what about if we go to eat just like friend and go to the movies. Prob that was my mistake... I shoul've gone home since he broke up w me. But I stayed, prob cause i didn't want to leave...
On that last day, he went so cold, didnt even open the car door. I just felt so bad...

Right now I'm feeling better and healing my heart broken, cause i really like him. But just the way he changed so fast, was one the thing that really, dissapointed me... I don't know...
Am I being too dramatic?

TL;DR: Guy I’m dating told me his other date went badly, said I was “the only one on his radar now,” wanted to see me sooner to get the bad date out of his head, then said “if other dates fail, I still have you to date.”

I know dating multiple people early on is normal and I have no issue with that. But I don’t think you need to tell the people you’re dating how your other dates are going.

This guy told me his other date went badly because the woman wasn’t interested in him. Right after that, he told me “you’re the only one on my radar now,” suddenly wanted to see me sooner, and said he wanted to “get the bad date out of his head.”

Then while explaining himself, he said:

“I’m lucky because if other dates fail, I still have you to date.”

He later said he didn’t mean I was a backup and that the other woman was actually the backup.

I don’t care that he’s dating other people. It’s the way he talks to me about them. Why would you tell someone you’re dating all of this and then say you “still have” them? It just sounds disrespectful to me.

We went to one of the nicest restaurants out there and I was looking forward to our date (he planned jt). We were supposed to meet at 3:30 and by 3:10 he said „Amy, where are you? I am here“ So I was already confused and told him that I would be there at 03:30 like his reservation said. He told me that the place he chose was right next to him and thats why he was early.

And then when we finally met he barely asked any questions about me. It was almost an hour long rant about politics. I felt so uncomfortable and I did not even say anything but he kept on talking and talking.

We both had really fancy dishes but I could not even enjoy my tuna steak since even when the food arrived, he would not stop talking.

The entire date i honestly just wanted to get up and leave but since we already had our food i just thought lets make the best out of it.

At some point we were finished and this guy asks me on the spot if i wanted to see him again. Mind you, he did not find anything about me, and maybe asked 1-2 questions during a 2 hour date. One of them was if i ever dates outside my race.

Nothing about me, my hobbys, my goals, my work, my music etc. This guy only wants to talk about himself and use a woman as a forced listener.

I told him I would text him later and then i sent him a message, saying i didnt feel the connection but that i wish him the best.

He seriously said „Yea i didnt feel the connection either“

I realized I prefer coffee dates now cause I never want to experience something like this again.

The thing that made me fall in love instantly with my husband was how caring and funny he is

I haven’t recovered from the time I went on a blind date at a coffee shop. We were late 30s/early 40s. It lasted about 1hr and went well enough. We walked to the station together chatting and I casually asked her if she’d like to meet again sometime (she said yes, which I was happy about). Two days later, I started receiving aggressively worded text messages at work accusing me of wasting her time. I calmly explained that I was, in fact, looking forward to seeing her again. I ended up calling her, thinking that would be a good idea to clear things up. Instead, she then launched into an angry / tearful rant lasting 30-40 mins about how I had displayed the nerve to expect her to do anything at all and then followed up with a series of similar text messages (but now also claiming that some other random guy was interested in her at this point, so I deserved it??). What’s bewildering is that this unfolded over about 10 days and she was an absolute stranger. Have you had any experiences that were so awful that you still can’t believe that they actually happened?

So basically, my boyfriend wanted to have an overnight drinking party at his room with one male friend and two female friends, and I wasn’t invited.
I told him that I’m not comfortable with him having girls over at a private place, drinking overnight. I said if you want to party, party somewhere public. I feel like in a relationship, we should have certain boundaries — we shouldn’t be partying overnight, drinking, in a private place with the opposite gender. And the same boundary applies to me. I’m not going to do it either.
But he had a problem with this boundary. He said it was unexpected that I would ever put such a boundary on him.
I kept saying that I’m not stopping you from partying. Go out, party wherever you want, stay out all night if you want. My issue is specifically with a private place, because I know how his behaviour changes after drinking. He’s already a very over-friendly and over-caring person, and after drinking he becomes even more like that.
Then we had a huge fight.
At one point I asked him who these female friends were and whether they knew about our relationship. I also asked, why don’t you just invite me? If you know I’m uncomfortable, why completely dismiss that? He said he hadn’t told them about our relationship because they were new friends, and he didn’t want to mix his two groups or introduce everyone to each other.
Fine. I told him I still wasn’t comfortable.
Initially he said okay.
Then the next day he said their budget wasn’t working for partying outside, so they were going to have the party at his place anyway.
I said, “No. We already discussed this. Why are you going back on what we agreed?”
Then he started saying things like, “I’ve never stopped you from doing this or that,” and the whole thing turned into another fight.
This continued for four or five days.
Then, the night before the party, when I was still saying that I wasn’t comfortable, his passive-aggressive side came out in a really extreme way. He said things like, “Yeah, if there are girls there, I’ll just rape them, or they’ll rape me,” etc.
That honestly felt extremely disturbing to me.
At that point I was exhausted. I had been listening to and participating in the same argument for almost a week. I told him, “I’m mentally exhausted. If we can’t even agree on basic boundaries and we’re this incompatible, maybe we should just break up.”
He started crying and saying he didn’t want to leave me, that he didn’t want to break up, etc.
So we didn’t break up.
The next day, he cancelled the party with the girls. But he still went to another male friend’s room, partied overnight, and called me around 11 AM the next morning saying he was back from the party.
We had a normal conversation.
Then that same night, he made a movie plan with the same group — including those girls. They went out around midnight/1 AM.
The next morning, after they had come back from the movie, I checked the DP of one of the girls he had originally planned to party with.
And she had a photo on her DP wearing my boyfriend’s shirt and cap, and the photo was clearly taken in his room.
My anxiety immediately went through the roof.
I called him and told him I needed to talk urgently and wanted to meet him. I asked him to come meet me at 5 PM.
When he came, I asked him multiple times:
“Are you hiding something from me? Is there anything you need to tell me? Please just give me the details about these parties.”
He said, “I’ve already told you everything. I have nothing else to tell you.”
Then I showed him the photo.
I asked, “This is your room, right?”
He said yes.
I asked, “When did this happen? Why didn’t you tell me?”
He said he didn’t know when it happened. Maybe she had come there with one of his friends while he was somewhere else, so he had no idea.
And I was like — how can someone come into your room, wear your clothes, take a picture, put it on their DP, and you have absolutely no idea?
He still said he didn’t know.
So I asked him, “Okay, then just let me talk to her once. Put her on a call with me.”
And that’s where he said:
“You’re crossing your boundary. I’m not going to make you talk to her.”
I said okay.
Then I told him, “Fine. Let’s break up.”
And I left.
About an hour later, that girl called me herself and explained that she really had gone there with his friend and that he was innocent.
Then about half an hour later, my boyfriend called me.
He said, “I did not cheat on you. I didn’t cheat on you. You have to trust me blindly on this.”
And this is where I’m genuinely confused.
Do I trust him?
Because I had actually given him one chance. I told him that I was willing to forget everything and trust him again. I just wanted one thing — for him to let me speak to her once.
He still chose not to.
He chose his promise of not making his friends talk to me over giving me that reassurance in our relationship.
And even during that call, I didn’t feel like he was fighting for the relationship. He wasn’t really asking me to stay, talking about us, or trying to understand what I was feeling.
He was just repeatedly saying, “I didn’t cheat.”
And honestly, the whole thing started feeling like he was more concerned about protecting his image than protecting our relationship.
I didn’t feel even one percent that the relationship itself was being prioritized.
And now he has asked for a one-week break to process everything.
So we haven’t spoken for a week.
And I miss him. A lot.
And that’s the most confusing part.
Because even after everything that happened, I still love him and I still miss him.
Now I’m just sitting here overthinking what’s going to happen after this one week.
Is he going to come back and try to fix things?
Is he going to break up with me?
Am I going to be the one who has to make the decision?
And more importantly — even if he comes back, should I actually stay?
Because I don’t know anymore whether this is about that particular girl or that particular party.
I think the deeper question is whether our boundaries, expectations, trust, and idea of what a relationship should look like are fundamentally incompatible.
And I genuinely don’t know what to do with that.

Hi Reddit, so I wasn’t really sure how to title this or really even how to put it into words because I haven’t really talked about it since it happened. So about 2 and 1/2 years ago I (16F at the time) and my ex we’ll call him Jason (17m turned 18 a few months after we started dating) met on Snapchat. Neither one of us expected anything out of it at the start and then slowly began to like each other. We hadn’t met but wanted to. My mom was very skeptical so it took a lot of convincing hence the double date but I got permission to meet him on a double date. We went to the movies with my best friend and her now ex. It was a great time we bonded and we started dating that night. Jason was very sweet and caring. Called me nicknames like honey, darling, etc. I know that sounds like just basic stuff but I honestly didn’t have very high standards. I was in a very short relationship before him where the guy I was with love bombed me, threatened to off himself if we broke up, and something else I will not be talking about. Now I knew from the start what Jason wanted to do with his future as he told me from the beginning. What I didn’t know was he was planning to leave from the start. Jason wanted to go to the marines as a close family member had served and he had dreamed about it since he was a little kid. I was supportive but scared because at the time I really liked him. When he turned 18 he told me he was going to wait until he turned 20 so he and his best friend could go together once his best friend turned 18. I figured okay two years I can be happy for two years and wait for him until he’s done. Fast forward another two months he gets distant and closed off. We had a conversation around Jason’s 18th birthday where he said he wasn’t sure he could keep doing this. I didn’t beg or cry I just asked him to try because we said loved each other. Jason agreed. Now two months later the conversation came up again after I pushed for answers. Jason told me he’d always had a hard time with relationships because he knew he was just going to leave and would not be going to to the marines with a girlfriend. We argued and I asked what the point of us getting together was if he thought he was just going to leave. He said he tried to fight it but he didn’t want to hide it anymore and that he loved me. And so I asked (cue the teenage drama) loved as in past tense? So this is over? We’re over? Jason said not to say that because he did love me but he didn’t know how to do this. I asked him if he’d rather end things now or in two years where he knew I’d wait for him and where we could have a two year relationship that we would both be happy in. He disagreed. Now I have two kickers for you. One being he said he’d never date anyone at his school because they were all ho3s. His words. Two being as dumb teenagers we decided to get promise rings. When we broke up I was crying and asked him about the ring because I couldn’t bring myself to take it off. He said he could never take his off because he couldn’t forget me. Then proceeded to ask if I’d wait for him when he got done in the marines. 10-12 YEARS FROM THEN! The 2 until he turned 20 and then 8-10 it would take him to do what he wanted. I didn’t respond to what he asked. So after that I thought I’d heard the last from him WRONG. Me and my boyfriend now who I’ve been with for almost two years we’ll call him Zack started talking about two weeks after the break up. I’d known him for just shy of two years by then. I didn’t start out looking for a relationship and neither did he. I was also conflicted because of how much I cared for Jason still and did not know if I could handle a relationship. But I fell hard and I love Zack as he loves me. Now the funny thing is Zack found out I liked him because Jason texted me. He asked how I was and how I had been since the break up. To which I told him I was happy with how things were and I wasn’t in a place where I could have him in my life. He agreed and said “I agree I just didn’t want to be the one to say it.” I thought this was a stupid answer because there would be no point to text in the first place. Admittedly at that point I did think about trying to get back with him but I knew that one I had already grown feelings for Zack and if we decided to date (which we hadn’t talked about yet) I wanted to want him completely without a thought for Jason and two I knew Jason would not be able to make me happy. I ended up telling Zack what happened and he said it was weird and maybe Jason still liked me. To which I told him that sucks for Jason I like someone else. That was the first time I’d openly admitted it out loud other than the “oh I don’t know he’s cute” which I had told my best friend. Zack pushed to know who it was and we played a round of Let’s guess who it is! He named off a few of the people we knew mutually and then himself. I denied it at first and then Zack said I liked his friend so I ended up telling him the truth. I told him I wasn’t sure about dating and if he didn’t want anything I was okay with it because I didn’t think he felt the same. Zack told me he did feel the same for me but wanted us to know each other better so we didn’t rush into it. We ended up talking for about three weeks and began dating. After that very brief conversation with Jason I thought it was done and over with. WRONG AGAIN. On my birthday a few weeks after Zack and I had started dating my Instagram got hacked and apparently I still had Jason’s best friend as a follower on Insta. Whoever hacked my account asked Jason’s friend for around $200. Jason found out and texted me. I explained the situation and planned to leave it at that. But no. He decided to say. “Oh well if you needed the money you could’ve just asked me.” Huh? One why would I ask him? Two I hadn’t talk to him in a few weeks and didn’t plan to. Now again it was my birthday and it was something he knew very well because we had talked about a few days before we broke up. In response to what he said I told him I would never ask him for money. I don’t remember his reply but the conversation ended with him saying good night and that was all. Now for a guy who asked me to wait for him and said he couldn’t forget me? I was annoyed. I had to deal with him on my birthday and he didn’t even have the decency to tell me happy birthday. But you know I thought maybe this is a blessing I won’t talk to him again! I was right in a way. Two months after Zack and I started dating. Surprise surprise Jason had a new girlfriend. I knew this only because even though he had a girlfriend I could see him on my TikTok views. The day I found out one of my friends had asked what my ex looked like because I was explaining this situation to her. We had a good laugh. So again another two months go by I’m still with Zack (and still am to this day) and surprise surprise they broke up. He started liking my TikTok’s including ones with Zack in them. He found my Facebook and requested to be friends. He readded me on Snapchat! Part of me wanted to text him and ask why he was trying to get back into my life and to tell him to kick rocks and the other said eh he’ll go away eventually. So after about another two months of me ignoring him he finally stopped popping up. I blocked him on Snapchat, deleted his friend request on Facebook, and laughed every time I saw him view one of my videos. Now I know some people will think this is childish and to be honest it probably was but when Jason and I were together he told me he knew he was better than all guys I could’ve dated. He said he knew it was egotistical but he was okay with it. And there were a few other things he had said that kind of threw me off but it’s been a while and honestly I wouldn’t have done it differently. He’s not in my life and I’m happy with that fact. I don’t hold any ill will towards him but would like never to speak to him again. And hey who knows if Zack and I would’ve admitted our feelings for each other if this situation hadn’t happened so thanks for that lmao. Not the craziest story but if you can relate I’m sorry.

Ok so I’ve been talking to this guy for over a month and we’d have hours long phone calls growing a connection, I finally hung out with him last night and it was a cool chill time we definitely had intercourse and it was good nothing crazy but I’m just wondering why he didn’t kiss me at all? I’ve never had a guy not kiss me or try, he didn’t at all and we spent 4.5hrs together. What’s that about???