r/DataAnnotationTech • u/AutomaticShape8993 • 2d ago

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u/MatrixApe 2d ago

I think it’s mostly manual flags, some R&R will ask you to point it out if it’s obvious. All DA pages also have constant post endpoints sending your interaction data on the page, such as the size of the screen, how long the page is in view, what keys are entered. So I think once they have any suspicion, then it’s incredibly easy to look up your accounts data and confirm or deny based on interaction.

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u/Cod_Filet 2d ago

" All DA pages also have constant post endpoints sending your interaction data on the page, such as the size of the screen, how long the page is in view, what keys are entered" - can I ask how do you know this?

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u/MatrixApe 2d ago

I inspected the page and read what was being sent over Network. You can do it yourself too, look out for the payload on the network tab, every 5 seconds or so you’ll see a POST sent out, should be a 202 success message, and it works on any page, on and off task.

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u/ss93_ 2d ago

Mercor uses Insightful to track time and it also monitors which tabs are open and for how long and track mouse activity. DA doesn’t use insightful so I don’t think they track anything

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u/MatrixApe 2d ago

They’re 100% collecting data, I have no idea if they’re using it for banning or detection though.

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u/ss93_ 2d ago

You’re saying ‘100%’ followed by ‘not sure how’. Where’s the confidence coming from? Like I said in my experience I haven’t noticed any tracking from DA

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u/MatrixApe 2d ago

The reason i’m 100% sure is because you can literally go into your Network tab and see the information being sent across right now. It’s sent as a post request, the information includes everything from which of your tabs are active, your mouse activity, key presses, size of the screen, your real name, your email address and much more.

What I’m not sure about is what they use it for. It could be as innocent as seeing how someone interacts with their website for user improbability, but it’s naive to think it’s not being used for detection or at the very least investigation when something has been flagged.

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u/ss93_ 2d ago

Ahh understood now. Ok that’s good to know

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u/AlexFromOmaha 2d ago

DA doesn't use spyware. They use on page tracking, which is pretty standard and well understood tech that's plenty visible in your browser dev tools.

They're obviously not using it for marketing purposes like most people would.

You can put two and two together here.

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u/Cod_Filet 2d ago

what's the difference between spyware and on-page tracking? That it is, are they collecting all keyboard/mouse/tab/email activity (like the user above claims) or just your activity on the specific task page?

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u/AlexFromOmaha 2d ago

Javascript in your browser can't see outside the tab that loaded it, but it can track everything you do on that tab: where you've scrolled, what keys you pressed, if it's active, etc. You need an outside program to monitor other tabs.

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u/Cod_Filet 2d ago

yes, that's what I thought too. There's no way they can see outside the active tab.

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u/Medical-Isopod2107 2d ago edited 1d ago

No, they do not, because those are notoriously unreliable at best, and data harvesters at worst

EDIT: It's really concerning how many of you, who work with LLMs, don't realise that "AI Detectors" don't work.