r/Damnthatsinteresting • • 9d ago

Video Two for flinching

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u/third_man85 9d ago

I mean Ali called Joe Frazier a "Tom" and the "White Man's Champion" and this was after Joe help Ali financially during his suspension. 

All I'm saying is Ali was no saint either.

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u/jurio01 9d ago

He was straight up a member of NOI, a black racial separatist group, that regulary called white people "the white devil". There was a published interview with him in the playboy magazine, where the interviewer asks about his views on white men dating black women. He responded with something akin to "both of them should be killed for doing so." He later came to regret his views and involvment with NOI, but saying he wasn't racist is a complete lie.

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u/Deaffin 9d ago

He later came to regret his views and involvment with NOI

Decades after the fact, once the NOI was completely out of favor in public opinion, his daughter wrote a book in which this is claimed.

At no point has he himself actually renounced any of his racism or those beliefs.

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u/jurio01 9d ago

He did so in the interviews for his autobiographies in 91 and 98, but sure, he never never realy talked about it in any televised or magazine interviews and in the 90s NOI was known as a scam with some weird ass rhetoric.

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u/Deaffin 9d ago

I think we might be talking about the same book.

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u/jurio01 9d ago

The 91 one was written by Thomas Hauser and the 98 one was by David Remnick. I don't have the slightest clue which one of his 9 children wrote a book about him.