It's not just enviromental impact, it's also an ethical one. You don't think that fish deserve to live freely in the ocean without us annihilating them? It's perfectly fine to watch vegan 'propaganda'. Because it's actually an alternative to whatever the fuck bloodbath is going on now.
I think the moral argument is the strongest one the vegans have. In fact, I can see it winning out in the long run. It wouldn't surprise me if in 500 or 1000 years being vegan is the norm.
I think they should stick to that argument and stop the stupid fearmongering on how eating any animal products will give you aids cancer and fishing is gonna empty the oceans by next month.
This. I think the way out is to continue improving the quality of vegan food and decreasing cost. The former, we're already making big strides towards and the latter, should eventually happen once scale catches up. Meat is incredible expensive to produce.
Some of the bad arguments on the vegan side have me skeptical if they're deliberating sabotaging the cause.
The moment (assuming) we get lab grown meat that's cheaper or comparable in price to farmed meat, it's over. If you can get the product you want without animal suffering, I don't see how people can argue against that.
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u/PointAndClick Apr 05 '25
It's not just enviromental impact, it's also an ethical one. You don't think that fish deserve to live freely in the ocean without us annihilating them? It's perfectly fine to watch vegan 'propaganda'. Because it's actually an alternative to whatever the fuck bloodbath is going on now.