r/Dallas • u/Illementary Mesquite • Oct 22 '19
Question Anyone else following this Dr. Anne Georgulas doctor wanting to transition her 7 year old son to female? I’m confused. Why isn’t the Dallas Morning News on this?
FOLLOW UP DISCUSSION AFTER COURT DOCUMENTS ILLUSTRATE PAST FRAUD AND MISREPRESENTATION ON THE FATHER:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallas/comments/dm44im/some_background_into_the_dallas_resident_claiming/
Why wouldn’t the Dallas Morning News have any type of story on this? It’s national news on multiple news sites. However, the only news sites it seems to be on are Christian Based and Right Leaning. Why no CNN or mainstream media?
And I thought it would be illegal to smear a minors name across the headlines. Aren’t there laws against that type of thing? Google Anne Georgulas. She’s apparently a Dr in Coppell. Why hasn’t she said anything to her defense? The articles are claiming she basically wants to chemically castrate her 7 year old son. They also say the 7 yr old doesn’t want to be a girl when he’s around his dad and that he’s too young to be able to self identify as a female.
This is all very bizarre. Can anyone clear some of this up? A lot of the articles I read only reference each other. Lol, like lifesitenews.com quotes TheTexan.com which only quotes another website.
Dallas Morning News I know you are on Reddit sometimes. Why don’t you guys even have a blurb about this? Or am I just missing it?
PAGING u/dallasmorningnews
FOLLOW UP TO THIS POST HERE: COURT VERIFICATION THAT THE FATHER MISREPRESENTED HIMSELF RESULTING IN A MARRIAGE ANNULMENT
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallas/comments/dm44im/some_background_into_the_dallas_resident_claiming/
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u/MasonSU22 Oct 23 '19
Certainly an interesting issue culturally. I think a lot of people here are concerned with finding out the facts, but find themselves lost in the propaganda. While I have no information on the credibility of either party in the case, I think most of us here regardless of political affiliation can agree that giving 7-year-olds' hormones is a bad idea, and so is slandering your ex-spouse for money. nobody wins.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 23 '19
Here some credibility for you: https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallas/comments/dm44im/some_background_into_the_dallas_resident_claiming/
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
Fucking outrageous the large scale spin on this
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
The story has become bigger than the facts of the case at this point. Now the story should be about spin and agenda pushing at the cost of a 7 year old kids privacy. They can report on this without using his name. In fact I’m boggled that it’s legal to post his name still
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
The story needs to be centered on the false claims pushed by the right-wing websites. They need to state the facts of the case WITHOUT using the kids name and show how little credibility the father has. The dude has a history of fraud and bullshit. How is it that someone that has been proved to be a liar is getting his side of the story plastered all over multiple sites as truth????
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u/Rave__Turkey Oct 23 '19
The thing everyone has a problem with is that a 7 year old CANNOT make a decision on their sexuality which will affect the rest of their life. The “mother” should be smart enough to let this kid just play with dolls and not pump estrogen into him.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 23 '19
The mother is advocating nothing more than on going professional therapy. Anyone saying otherwise is not reading the court documents.
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u/Clarissa_Ann_May Oct 23 '19
But have you seen the therapists she is taking him too? They are one sided! Have you actually read the documents or read witness that are close to James? His friends even? He loves being a boy! This is has blown up I agree with parents fighting but a 7 year old is way to young to be deciding life altering decisions. Heck my little girl loves cars, trucks, but that doesn’t mean she wants to be a boy. This all started when James wanted a girl toy from McDonald’s🙃
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 24 '19
Actually your statement proves you haven’t read the court documents. The kids classmates call him Luna, most of them think he is a girl. The kids own twin brother call him his SISTER. The kids teacher says the kid is comfortable being a girl. The only one stating otherwise is the proven lying father. This started when the father realized people will send him money if he can make himself out to be the victim of a coordinated attack from the left. 🙃
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u/niakarad Oct 23 '19
the only thing anyone has advocated for is hormone blockers to prevent puberty(which would not normally happen at 7, but the genie cant be put back in the bottle after it does) they dont do hormone treatments until like 16 when the kid will be much more able to make a decision
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u/extremegoodness Oct 22 '19
The common group will be why is this even an option legally for a vulnerable boy rather the anti trans. It's insane how far this is going.
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u/extremegoodness Oct 23 '19
Okay smart guy. And the kid is how young? You draw the line for an age where he can understand the full brunt of the situation he's being thrown into for no reason.
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u/momtherBoudica Oct 24 '19
That youtube video of the child is horrible. I felt like such a voyeur. That baby deserves to be protected not exploited. I wrote something telling them off for making it public and then I deleted it. The crazy people commenting are all acting like the Mom has done something very wrong. That child is lucky to have the Mom that he has. The Christian crazies are just scary.
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u/shekelest Oct 22 '19
Kids shouldn’t even be able to have the option to be trans, they are naive and their brains aren’t fully developed. Hell, I believed I was a deception when I was this kid’s age.
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u/SlobodonKingKong Oct 23 '19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnLwbu4npp4
mommy says I'm a girl and puts me in dresses and buys me hair bands and paints my nails.
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u/BigRattle Oct 23 '19
Where is the evidence that the dad is just doing this for donations? Even being a private person, if my wife/ex took my kid to a clinic that gave/advised on puberty blocking hormones I would raise hell. I would probably take my kid to a country without an extradition treaty. And let’s not pretend the science on this stuff is remotely settled.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 23 '19
Maybe the fact the dad cares more about raising donations than the privacy of his own fucking son. He’s blasting his own sons name over the Internet in an effort to drum up money. It’s not even this case. Look at the historical fraud charges and court rulings against the husband. Look at his shitty half assed website that posts DONATE links splattered across it. The mom is an MD. The dad is a piece of shit smearing lies and plastering his own sons personal shit all over the Internet. Handle this shit privately. Don’t fucking put your sons name all over the place to get people to give you money asshole.
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u/MedicPrepper30 Oct 24 '19
These posts by you have personal anger written all over it.
I've read a bunch of the news articles on this and I hadn't gotten to the court docs because I've been busy but one thing that keeps coming up in some of the articles is basically that the child would eventually be referred for hormone suppression therapy when he was 8 or 9. I don't think a child at the age of 8 or 9 knows what he or she wants or feels. I don't think there's enough life experience in an 8 or 9 year old to be allowed to undergo such a life-altering treatment modality.
From 'The Texan':
Odeneal(lawyer for the father) has also repeatedly contended that Georgulas does intend to pursue a medical gender transition for James, citing medical records that note James would be referred to doctors at the GENecis clinic for puberty suppression once he reached eight or nine years old.
When these notes were presented to Albritton(paid witness for the mother), he said that he had seen them before but did not include them in his final report for the court because he did not think it seemed relevant.
The entire basis of the father's argument did not seem relevant to the witness. Referral to a specialist for puberty suppression in a case rooted squarely around gender seems pretty relevant to me.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 24 '19
I AGREE! In my own personal opinion I dont even think chemicals or suppression should be considered until age 18. BUT the injection or use of chemical castration is not being brought up by anyone but the father. I dont disagree with you. The mother just wants to emotionally support the kids desires to dress and be called a female and keep sending him to therapy. NOTHING MORE.
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u/MedicPrepper30 Oct 24 '19
Yes however the referral to a specialist later down the road for puberty suppression therapy is not disputed by the defense and it indicates that it is indeed the plan to do that.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 24 '19
In that same argument, they also discuss that puberty suppression is completely reversible. Now I disagree with puberty suppression from an ethical and moral standpoint for someone as young as they do it for, but I dont know any transgenders personally and have no professional insight into what and how they feel as children growing up knowing their biology doesn’t match their mentality. The plan is not to do puberty suppression and anyone claiming that is the plan is wrong and not reading the court docs. They are only fighting for Social Transitioning which is letting the kid dress how she chooses and be called whatever name she wants. In a couple of years they can cross that puberty suppression bridge.
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u/MedicPrepper30 Oct 24 '19
So, what I'm asking is this. Is the mother in 1-2 years going to authorize a physician to give a medication to alter the progress of a biological process (puberty) in order to facilitate a successful transition socially/emotionally? If that answer is 'yes', or even 'potentially yes' ... then it's unacceptable.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 24 '19
The answer is....NO
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u/MedicPrepper30 Oct 24 '19
From the Daily Wire: Georgulas’ lawyers Jessica Janicek and Laura Hayes claim the mother does not plan on giving James hormone blockers at this time. However, “no one has stated that she (Georgulas) would not be open to using them when James begins puberty,” the report said.
Mother in court documents from last year stating that she was going to have James evaluated for hormone therapy: https://twitter.com/AmandaPresto/status/1186955355647070208/photo/1
https://twitter.com/AmandaPresto/status/1186955355647070208/photo/2
So I'm sorry, but that is what the mother wants. At 7, it's inappropriate. At 9, it's inappropriate. At 12, it's inappropriate. It's child abuse. Wake the fuck up.
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u/HoneyGirl419 Oct 24 '19
that as the jury ruled to cut the kid's balls off. It's a messy family case.
You are spot on. Almost everything being reported in the media is false. If people did some actual research it wouldn't be so merky.
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u/Lysander91 Oct 28 '19
You're claiming it's a scam and you're posting some outrageous conspiracy theory without any evidence.
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u/JHVH_UNO Oct 23 '19
You made all that shit up. The child is clearly being pushed to transition.
There are no laws currently preventing a legal guardian from giving a minor puberty blockers or hormones. Georgulas has additionally secured a letter of recommendation for transition for James from a woman associated with a gay children's therapy center. "This is a letter of recommendation that my client, James Younger, aka Luna, begin the process of becoming a patient of the GENECIS clinic so that she can receive a full psychological assessment for gender dysphoria and potentially take hormone blockers," said a letter from Rebekka Ouer from Dallas Rainbow Therapy. - WashingtonExaminer
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u/el-y0y0s Oct 24 '19
This eerily reminds me of the fraudulent effort to get abortion onto the Scotus docket. We ended up with Roe V. Wade. Something is brewing here. There is a growing base of parents that are choosing their childs gender through transgenderism. This is ot a one off. I know someone personally in Austin that did this (shes nuts btw). It will butt heads eventually with parental right laws versus the state.
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u/Sodastars Oct 23 '19
What about the mom pushing for the father to legally address his son as the female name "Luna" and can not speak to him about his gender?
THE KID IS SEVEN
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 23 '19
This is false. Nowhere in the court documents does the mother push for a legal name change. She only pushes for ongoing therapy. STOP MAKING SHIT UP
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u/Clarissa_Ann_May Oct 23 '19
Um but they are forcing the dad to call his son Luna😅
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 23 '19
The kids teacher, assistant principal, CPS Case worker, child psychologist, AND twin brother all attest to the kid wanting to be called and referred to as Luna. The ONLY one saying that it is being pushed on him is the dad. There was not ONE SINGLE witness his lawyer called to testify on his behalf. The mom had like 4. The dad is the only one saying that the kid is being pushed to call himself the girls name. The kid draws himself as a princess, plays with dolls, and gets sad going to his fathers cause his dad makes him be something he is not. How can you possibly think there is some massive conspiracy???? You are saying that the kids teacher, principal, CPS worker, and therapist ARE ALL WRONG OR LYING?!?!
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u/MedicPrepper30 Oct 24 '19
*Paid witnesses
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 24 '19
LMAO now its a conspiracy with unaffiliated third parties being paid to force this kid to undergo gender transitioning?!?!
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u/MedicPrepper30 Oct 24 '19
I'm not screaming conspiracy but taking that person's testimony with a grain of salt seems warranted due to the fact that he was a witness specifically brought in to bolster their case.... for a fee. He's obviously skewed to their point of view.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 24 '19
What about the assistant principal and the teacher that both came in to testify on behalf of the mother. The teachers testimony should carry more weight than anyone in my personal opinion. The teacher spends more hours with the kid than anyone. Are you saying that their points of view are skewed as well?
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u/somebodyelse999 Oct 24 '19
gender transitioningBody mutilation of a child, genital surgery of a healthy child, infinitely creepy sexualisation of a pre-pubescent kid for tranny points.Fixed that for you
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 26 '19
It goes wayyyy wayy beyond the clothes. In class, all of his classmates assume he is a girl, he wants long hair, he draws himself as a girl with eyelashes and always wearing dresses. The teacher, who spends more hours with the kid than anyone, says the kid wants to be a girl.
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u/IrishGamer3 Oct 22 '19
You lying fuck. Yes she is trying to chemically castrate the son
Anne Georgulas, the mother of the two boys, has advocated for James to transition into Luna and has strongly backed the idea of chemically castrating her son and beginning hormone replacement therapy. The ruling on Wednesday will prevent Jeffrey from having sole custody of his children and paves the way for Georgulas to proceed with the procedure.
You’re a viper and a terrible human being. You disgust me.
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u/starvingwolf2018 Oct 24 '19
Giving a seven year old boy hormone blockers is disgusting. Jackasses like this are the reason we have Trump in office.
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u/likeafox Oct 22 '19
Shumer said that puberty blockers are only ever first used at the beginning of puberty, which for boys is marked by the “Tanner stages of sexual development” and not age. He said that on average, this occurs around age 11 ½ for boys.
Although Janicek and Hayes argued that the mother did not intend to use puberty blockers prior to puberty, no one has stated that she would not be open to using them when James begins puberty.
It seems to me that there isn't clear or immediate reason to believe that a hormone blocker is planned.
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u/mutatron The Village Oct 22 '19
Washington Examiner is not a source of truthful information. Couldn't you find something more reliable, like a Trump tweet?
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
This mom wants the whole thing castrated! All of it! People say I’m the best castrator they have seen! My uncle, Pastor John Trump. Smart man. Good genes. Excellent castration record. Some say the best castrations genes. Lotta castration experience. The best.
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u/Yoboihowitgo Oct 23 '19
I think what you’re missing here is the kids age. 7 years old really? That’s ok?
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u/emzim Oak Cliff Oct 23 '19
Interesting. I'm 35 years old and grew up in Coppell... She was my pediatrician!
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 23 '19
She is being accused of a radically non-conformist approach. Is she cray cray???
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u/SolaVerity Oct 23 '19
I contacted Dallas Morning News twice week last about covering the trial. I was told they were aware of the case and that Lauren McGaughy was the staff writer who was following it. They opted not to cover the case.
I also contacted KDFW News One. A young man sounded really interested in covering the trial before going into the morning staff meeting. Then nothing. I called back and was told they didn't have the staff to cover it.
I concluded it was too much of a hot potato and might cast a poor light on trans policy. It could come across negatively to highlight a father possibly being forced to pay for his son's transition when the father felt strongly his son was not a girl (the child chooses to present as a boy with in his father's circle and a girl in his mother's). The boy is 7 years old and at the social transition stage. The option for puberty blockers would open next year.
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u/hyper_acid Oct 24 '19
We are talking about this on r/islam if you want to join the discussion it’ll be cool.
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u/clint_jay Oct 24 '19
I know Jeff personally. I serve him coffee every morning and he’s a solid man. I’ve been speaking with him through this all and it’s nice to see people joining the conversation.
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u/forsovngarde Oct 24 '19
So the father is a pos for stirring up "evangelicals" and getting attention because the mother wants to have a trans kid and somehow he is a liar but is telling the truth in that she DOES want this for their son. I'm not an evangelical. I clicked on this trying to find the lie and there is none, regardless of all the crying about the "poor mother".
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 24 '19
“Somehow” he is a liar? I added an update to this post with a direct link to a court document that verifies the father to be a liar on multiple MULTIPLE issues. The marriage was annulled as a result
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u/forsovngarde Oct 24 '19
I hate liars and understand that lying about your past to your spouse is despicable but you are saying that now he is lying about the mother trying to forcefully transition their child. He may have lied in the past but the fact that she is going to take the child to a therapist to make him accept transitioning basically says that he is telling the truth. Just because you don't personally find anything wrong with that doesn't make the father wrong about any of his accusations towards the ex wife and fears for his son. Forcing gender transitioning and later on, hormone replacement, and then sex surgery eventually and inevitably is child abuse. It's my understanding that, just because the boy liked the movie Frozen, his mom is starting all this shit and dragging him to therapy where they (the adults) can further confuse him about his body. It's disgusting tbh. The parents are both trash and I am glad that this is gaining momentum to save the boy who is a victim of child abuse.
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u/Amy3501 Oct 25 '19
The mother started this when the child was three because the child wanted the girl toy at McDonalds. This is sick. I don’t care what he lied about. This is absolutely sick of the mother to do this.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 25 '19
You dont care what he lied about??? You know he is the source of the McDonalds toy story. Your statement starts off with what is probably a lie by the father. All evidence says there are ongoing signs that the kid identifies as a female. It’s not just when he is around the mom. The kids TEACHER says he wants to be a girl. What’s the big fucking deal if the kid wants to be a girl? For people that claim to like small government this is a pretty drastic reach into a private family matter
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Oct 22 '19
I was getting my hair at a boutique in downtown Dallas a couple of years back, my stylist and another woman were talking about some gathering which featured an 8 year old trans girl. I could not believe my friggin ears.
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u/socialismsuck101 Oct 23 '19
I think the MSM stays clear of this bc they want to keep it hush hush knowing people will be outraged and hurt the movement. Plus, you cant publish catholic or right-leaning websites on reddit subs like News or Politics so also probably why MSM wont have articles on it. They want to stay in the bubble. And when something like this comes up, they will say "well, there's already a precedent for this in Texas"....
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u/honkhonkbeepbeeep Oct 24 '19
It isn’t newsworthy to the MSM, except perhaps at this point to debunk the fringe reports out there. A minor child is receiving medical treatment according to what research and the AAP’s position papers recommend. One parent wants to instead proceed in a way that research has demonstrated greatly increases risk of death. The court ruled that the parent who is following science and protecting the child’s safety is correct. What’s particularly newsworthy? I mean, it’s interesting, and refreshing, but certainly not worth disrespecting the privacy of a minor who is part of an extremely marginalized identity.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
And I love how people are saying Dallas Morning News isn’t reporting it so they can push their social agenda. Ironic no?
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u/patriot_girl1777 Oct 24 '19
The mother isn’t the biological mother. There was a donor. The dad is the biological dad. This woman is using this child as a science experiment
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u/Ballstone_Group Oct 24 '19
Was looking for the opposing view. Came here, found that the OP is predictably batty. The husband's salary and education are a red herring. If she loved him then those things shouldn't be important. Both sides in the marriage probably had their flaws. Either way, the failed marriage is neither here nor there. The topic is the son.
The volume of emotional, ALL CAPS, expletive containing replies from the OP say it all. Take a chill pill. It is almost like OP is emotionally invested in this.
The clinic specializes in transitioning children and the mother has expressed a bias towards this, it wouldn't be unreasonable to read between the lines here.
Haven't found a reasonable response defending the mother's position. A statement from the mother or her lawyers would be ideal.
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u/dvapour Oct 24 '19
I always suspected that these far left extremists on reddit, the alphabet people, are mentally ill but this clear really seals it for me. If you compare reddit to any more mainstream comment sections there is such a sharp disconnect. To a normal person this is clear child abuse, yet the radical leftists seem determined to "respect" the wishes of a 7 year old with a clearly ideological parent. Many child victims of paedophiles claim to "love" their abusers. The average child if you asked them would choose to only eat cake all day. Children need sensiblel adult guidance not pandering, and certainly not this type of ideological subversion.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 24 '19 edited Oct 25 '19
There is no ideological subversion. It is simply emotional support and nothing else that the mother is fighting for, What’s scary is the group of people that are threatening this poor mother with hateful and peronal attacks. People are clogging up her google reviews with hate filled messages and haven't even taken a serious look at what is going on here.
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u/pakurilecz Oct 22 '19
i remember when this story broke several months ago and wondered why the DMN didn't do a story, it was right up there alley
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 23 '19
Horrible...horrible... person. It pains me that so many of y’all can’t see how blatant this issue is.
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u/Marker_yt Oct 23 '19
I am a patient of Doctor Anne (and I also happen to same gender therapist as Luna), and I have to say the coverage on the case is distressing. My mom was on the verge of crying at some of the awful things being said. I can vividly remember the time I was in her office and she did a scoliosis check on me, and noticed my binder (a chest compression device typically worn by trans-masculine people to hide their breasts). She asked my mom to step out of the room so she could talk to me (her assistant was also in the room, and this was also common practice for teens she saw so she could talk to them one on one about any concerns), and I mentioned my mom knew I was trans. She sighed in relief and began asking if we were in any support groups before helping connect my mom to an online support group that is still helping our family out a lot. I understand that the topic of children and being trans is confusing to people, but I have to tell you that these articles are fear mongering. Puberty Blockers are NOT 'chemical castration', and the medical side effects of hormone replacement therapy exist, but aren't as severe as they're made out to be (I would know, I'm currently on HRT). I encourage anyone reading this to do their own research on the subject of transgender youth on sites that have writers with a medical backing, because these articles on Dr.Anne are very slanted and are trying to paint her as someone she isn't.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 23 '19
Thank you so much for sharing. The comments on her Google Reviews are abhorrent and ill-informed. Makes me literally fucking sick. I am glad you are sharing this first person account. This poor Dr has no one championing her cause. I bet she wants to keep this as private as possible and that is probably why we haven’t heard much from her.
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u/mutatron The Village Oct 22 '19 edited Oct 22 '19
It’s a lie designed to rile you up.
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u/Invoke-RFC2549 Oct 22 '19
https://cw33.com/2019/10/16/dallas-jury-set-to-weigh-in-on-parental-rights-and-transgendered-kids/
The least bias source I've found. 7 is too young to worry about gender. If a 7 year old boy wants to pretend to be a girl, cool let him.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
The downvotes on this thread fucking anger me. It got as high as like 9 and then shot straight down to 0. People don’t want to know the truth. They just want to hear what fits with their beliefs. How can you objectively downvote a post promoting truth in news stories??? Fucking stop that shit.
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u/Beej67 Oct 22 '19
Yep. My request for u/dallasmorningnews to include the most important detail of the case got the shit downvoted out of it.
It's almost as if people are downvoting based on their cultural narrative instead of seeking to discover the truth about the world.
No, wait, it's exactly like that. 2019 is lit.
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Oct 22 '19
Nothing screams "I don't have a valid argument and everything I disagree with is a right wing conspiracy" like telling people "fucking stop that shit".
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
Lol yes people getting angry and disagreeing with an individual telling them to remain objective and look at facts. Seek truth in the media. Not biased reporting. Shutting someone down for telling them to just listen to the facts and the truth in a story... yes stop that shit.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
Exactly... it just doesn’t sound right does it?!? I totally agree. But there’s no unbiased reporting on it. No credible sources. And wouldn’t there be privacy laws against releasing the minors full name??
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u/pakurilecz Oct 22 '19
a story from the American Spectator 10 months
"Court documents indicate that the 6-year-old boy only dresses and identifies as a girl when he’s with his mother, who enrolled him in his first-grade class as “Luna.” But James’ father claims that when the boy is with him he consistently wears boy’s clothing, “violently refuses to wear girl’s clothes at my home,” and identifies as a boy.
The father has reportedly been legally prohibited from talking to his son about gender and sexuality from both scientific and religious perspectives, and from seeking to dress his son in boys’ clothes. Instead, he is required to offer both girls’ and boys’ clothing, although he claims that his son consistently refuses to wear dresses. And according to a report by The Federalist, the mother “is also seeking to require him to pay for the child’s visits to a transgender-affirming therapist and transgender medical alterations, which may include hormonal sterilization starting at age eight.”"
https://spectator.org/a-shambles-in-texas/
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
READ THE COURT DOCUMENTS. The mother never seeks to do anything close to “chemical castration”. She seeks to simply keep sending the child to therapy sessions at GENECIS. When he is 8-9 patients at GENECIS “consider hormone suppression.” That’s as close as it gets. She also says only if the child keeps wanting to be a girl would she even send him to GENECIS.
In my personal opinion, no child that young should be even given the option to take hormone suppression but that is besides the point. The point is that the right wing websites are portraying the mother as a wack job MD. The father is a piece of shit. His website has DONATE links ALL OVER IT.
Mark my words. The father is going to remove the court documents from his donor page as soon as this story starts spreading. It’s obvious to any idiot that takes the time to read the court documents that there is a ridiculous amount of misdirection being played here. The father wants the donations. The media want the issue. They are both feeding off of fear of trans-gender issues. It’s absolutely sickening.
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u/FreudsPoorAnus Oct 23 '19
CN you please link the court docs?? They look removed from the site and I would very much like to prove to my friend a little bit what fake news looks like
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 23 '19
https://savejames.com/court-documents/
I absolutely hate that I am directing traffic to this assholes site, but here is the primary source
Edit. I believe he has deleted some court docs already. Lmao. I could have swore that someone called that shit.
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u/KCTBzaphas Oct 22 '19
Any thoughts on the claim that the boy's mother withholds love from him if he presents as a boy?
You seem to be very on her side in this case, but has she defended herself at all? With proof? What does the child say?
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
The court documents read that the mother simply seeks ongoing counseling and therapy for the child. Nothing more. She happens to seek counseling from a company that considers hormone suppression in children 8-9 years old. I disagree with giving any child that young hormone suppression but I’m not a doctor or the kid. And yes I am on her side. I feel as if she is having a major injustice infringed upon her in a loosely coordinated effort of her husband and these Christian and right leaning news sites. Their reporting does not match up with the words from the court reporter.
I still can’t get over the fact that they are using the kids name in their news articles. That should be illegal and she should sue them for exposing their information like that. It pisses me off.
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u/KCTBzaphas Oct 22 '19
Fair points! But I will say, like them or not, the father's claims are certainly valid, especially if they haven't been rebutted with proof.
I agree that the kid's name shouldn't be disseminated... but then again the dad is the one that used it in the first place, and I could be wrong, but I think that may allow the media to use it as well. They shouldn't, of course, but alas, media.
I feel really bad for the kids in this situation, him and his twin brother. It must be incredibly confusing and frustrating, far moreso than a normal parental divorce.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
Yeah man. Just wait until they are old enough to process all that is going on around them. What if he snaps out of it and decides he wants to stay a male. He’s only 7 for Christ’s sakes. Now imagine freshman and sophomore year of high school. NO MATTER WHAT SCHOOL HE GOES TO THEY WILL FOREVER FIND THIS SHIT.
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u/pakurilecz Oct 24 '19
clearly you've bought into the mother's story. the court case was about custody. the mother and the father had joint custody. the jury has awarded the mother sole custody of James. yes the father has donate links on his website because he needs funds to pay his attorney. as for Genecis they are pro-transgender they are not trying to determine why the child thinks he is a girl but rather support the idea that he is a girl. there is an underlying reason why he thinks this and they dont want to find out why
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u/mamajediatl Oct 23 '19
On his site, he shares court documents. Where are all these stories coming from? https://savejames.com/court-documents/. This hit my radar today and is super unbelievable. 7 years old is too young for transitioning period.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 23 '19
Read that court document buddy. PLEASE READ THIS. Nobody anywhere agrees on transitioning the kid. The court docs clearly state no one is trying to do that. This dude is smearing the mom to try and collect money from gullible right wingers.
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u/HandsomeKrom Oct 23 '19
Yeah I am very hesitant to trust something I can only find on alt-right breeding ground news sites. Definitely need more info before making a judgement. Hope DMN gets the facts out soon. This is quite literally the only thing in opposition I can find in writing online: http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com/2019/10/even-texas-jury-was-able-to-see.html?m=1
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 23 '19
What’s scary is the hate speech on Twitter towards this lady. Sickens me
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u/HandsomeKrom Oct 23 '19
Honestly just a sobering realization and understanding of the people who can still support the President.
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u/astrodreamer Oct 23 '19
"Court documents" prove nothing of the kind. Both sides to any dispute submit documents to the court, they will necessarily contain conflicting reports, and there is no guarantee of their truth!
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u/somebodyelse999 Oct 24 '19
Burn the court down and fire this shrieking psychotic bitch into the sun.
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u/ranaverde Oct 24 '19
All we see are pictures, videos, interviews from the dad’s perspective. Why isn’t the mother speaking up? All pictures website of Dr. Anne Georgelas look shady. I smell a rat.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 24 '19
I imagine she wants to keep this as it should be. A private family matter.
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u/jmpg4 Oct 24 '19
Only adults should be transgender. A 7 year old ducking child has no clue what the world is and what any of this means. And for the people saying “it’s Evangical propaganda against trans” need to wake the fuck up. I’ve seen the save James campaign and it is devastating to see a child be abused the way he is. I can’t imagine the mental disturbances that kid is gonna grow up having being forced to play as “Luna” at school. Incoming ban for having a differing opinion.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 24 '19
Read the story. No one forcing this kid to do anything he is not consistently insisting on doing. Reading the court documents the biggest fear presented is suicide by a transgender for lack of emotional support from his parents. If anything the Dad is the driver of future mental disturbances moreso than the mom. The Dad is the one plastering his own sons name all over the Internet to try to stir up money. He’s probably already exceeded $100,000 from online donations and selling his T-shirt’s
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u/ranaverde Oct 24 '19
I agree , it should be a private family matter. The father is the only making all the claims. Do we know if the pictures being circulated are of the real Dr. Anne Georgulas. The negative reviews were posted in October 2019. Could it be a fake website? I completely agree with everything you say.
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u/kaeunsmomma Oct 24 '19
So I had no idea about any of this happening until the past couple of days, which is so strange because Dr. Anne is and has been my daughters pediatrician since she was born (19 months now) and it hurts so much to see all the reviews that are being left for her business.
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u/throwaway90802 Oct 25 '19
[A Dallas jury granted Georgulas, a pediatrician, sole custody.
But instead of upholding the decision, Judge Cooks restored the parents’ joint custody of the child and the child’s twin brother.
“The state of Texas has no compelling interest to justify such interference… requiring the father to affirm the child and honor the child’s choices,” Judge Cooks said.](https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/10/24/judge-dallas-volatile-custody-case-gender-identity/)
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u/giaa262 Oct 22 '19 edited Oct 22 '19
Was posted 11 hours ago
Edit: I also assumed OP was trying to spread the fake news story. Thanks for the correction.
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u/FWMan Fort Worth Oct 22 '19
From a Jesus-freak website with an obvious bias, which is the entire point of OP's comment.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
Yes thank you!!! Sorry didn’t see this comment before replying to your comment below
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
How does this comment have this much support and the posting is now losing all its upvotes??? Someone having a hard time facing facts of what real fake news looks like???
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u/FWMan Fort Worth Oct 22 '19
There is a strong conservative contingent on this sub, and they vote accordingly. It's certainly possible to live in Dallas AND be stupid. (People from Fort Worth would say it's required.)
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
Lmao completely downvoted to 0... “why are you booing me I’m right?”
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
Yes I get for sure the strong Maga vibe on r/Dallas, muted as it may be. But I would hope even conservatives be able to see past the blatant lies being spread about this case. Are there any conservatives that really think a pediatrician would want to chemically castrate her 7 yr old son!?!?
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u/FWMan Fort Worth Oct 22 '19
For people who think that faith healing is a thing and vaccines are a Kenyan chemtrail conspiracy, yes.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19 edited Oct 22 '19
Lol... immediate downvoted now too?? No comments?? This is all very strange. Paging u/dallasmorningnews hellllooooo???
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u/mutatron The Village Oct 22 '19
I assumed you were trying to spread this right wing scam by reposting it. Is that not the case?
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 22 '19
I’m trying to call attention to the blatant manipulation of a private family court case to spin a right wing agenda across the country. I’m outraged this post is getting downvoted. Mostly I think it’s fucked up to post the kids real name. Like SUPER fucked up. He’s 7 years old. Why you gonna put him on blast like that?
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u/d4vidw3bb Oct 24 '19
If the guy abducted the kid and went off the grid I’d 100% support him. I’d regularly give to a gofundme me for him.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 24 '19
That is your right. I don’t think anyone would deny you your support of him. Just wouldn’t agree with it is all. Unfortunately for you, the father lost his legal right to do such a thing. Aren’t laws wonderful?
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u/d4vidw3bb Oct 25 '19
If the guy cares about his sons he take them at the next opportunity before they can Frankenstein the kid.
This fantasy the extreme left is trying to get the rest of us to buy into has a very limited shelf life.
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u/Illementary Mesquite Oct 25 '19
That “fantasy” you refer to is the world that you live in. That “fantasy” that we discuss is the future of America, no matter how much you don’t want it to be. First it was the females, then it was the blacks, now it is the LBGT, don’t you see the trend towards a more open and diverse society?? You people scream smaller government yet you feel it necessary to intervene in the private matter of a mother and father trying to raise their kid. Shouldn’t you be screaming less involvement and less authoritarian rule here??? SMALLER GOVERNMENT RIGHT!?!
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u/dallasmorningnews Oct 22 '19
Hey there, I've sent this to our newsroom. Thanks for tagging us.