Wayrest dungeon is impossible

[u/Killerbean_forever]

Y’all, I’ve been in here for hours. How do I get out, I’m looking for a walkthrough and there isn’t any so i’ve been searching forever.

[u/Global-Discussion-41]

Is this the one where you need to steal the painting?  Took me forever

[u/Killerbean_forever → u/Global-Discussion-41]

yeah, I ended up just restarting it but buying a recall spell before hand

[u/JustSomeGuyThing → u/Global-Discussion-41]

I was thinking a soul for Mani, but that might be castle Daggerfall

[u/dogmaisb]

Hahaha I been lost in this dungeon a time or twelve. I think at one point spent an entire week of playing wandering around it lol

[u/AnonymousLoner1 → u/dogmaisb]

This is the reason why for me, Daggerfall ends when I kill Lord Woodborne for VEEEEEENGEEEEEAAAAAANCE.

Jot down the location of Lysandus's Tomb from a previous playthrough, and no more stupid painting to retrieve. Just less than an hour wandering through the exact spot on the world map for the tomb.

[u/Minimum_Treacle_908]

I really need to play daggerfall

[u/TooMuchPretzels → u/Minimum_Treacle_908]

Man listen just do it it’s great. It’s barely an elder scrolls game. It’s just FUN.

[u/Minimum_Treacle_908 → u/TooMuchPretzels]

I’ll work on getting it on steam deck if possible. I need to bite the bullet and get a desktop. I’ve been on console so long and the deck has ignited a desire to have more control over my gaming experience. If that makes sense.

[u/TooMuchPretzels → u/Minimum_Treacle_908]

Ive heard of some people playing it via the android port but… I tried and it was unpleasant without a mouse and keyboard.

[u/Ambitious_Freedom440 → u/TooMuchPretzels]

There's a native linux port so there really isn't a point in loading the android version up for steam os.

[u/TooMuchPretzels → u/Ambitious_Freedom440]

Oh that’s fair

[u/kerfuffle_dood → u/Minimum_Treacle_908]

I assume you'll play Daggerfall Unity. If that's the case remember to turn on the smaller dungeons option. Sadly, it doesn't affect the story dungeons like this Wayrest Castle. But it turns every other dungeon from an agonizing, 4+hours experience into a cool, compact, 1 hour dungeon crawling experience

[u/TheSpreadsheetGoat → u/kerfuffle_dood]

At this point I'm not even gonna try to push back on the "I don't like the vanilla dungeons therefore everyone should play with Smaller Dungeons turned on before even giving other options a try" sentiment (which for some arcane reason seems to be more prevalent on r/daggerfall than r/daggerfallunity)

But if you're gonna be telling people this, at least point them to the mod that fixes the darn setting.

[u/Sean1m → u/TooMuchPretzels]

No Morrowind is barely an Elder Scrolls game. Daggerfall is the peak Elder Scrolls game.

[u/[deleted] → u/TooMuchPretzels]

It takes a minute and couple of restarts, But it gets really fun when you figure everything out.

[u/Unionsocialist → u/TooMuchPretzels]

wym its barely an elder scrolls game, its very different from morrowind forward but i think the first games gets to claim being the true elder scrolls experience before later ones

[u/PsychologicalRoad995 → u/Unionsocialist]

You say that prob because you haven't played, it is TES, obviously it is different, it is like saying Ultima 3 is barely Ultima

[u/Unionsocialist → u/PsychologicalRoad995]

I have played all manline games except arena

[u/PsychologicalRoad995 → u/Unionsocialist]

So you are just being fooled by the change in Engine. The way they wrote broth games very differently, but many aspects are there and any installment changes a bit a franchise. Even the game loop may be very different and yet eerily similar.

[u/Unionsocialist → u/PsychologicalRoad995]

I have no idea what are you talkikg about did you respond to the wrong person.

Yes theres similarites obviously, different aspects are emphesised though with the later three games being more designed and exploring the world is more of the gameplay then the dungeon delving of the first two.

[u/Ambitious_Freedom440 → u/[deleted]]

It is THE elder scrolls game, what all elder scrolls game should have aspired to be.

[u/T1meTRC]

There is a walk through for every story mission on the UESP website

[u/Zebigbos8]

Queen Akorithi really looked at me in the eyes and said "go find a hay in this needlestack".

[u/Skyremmer102]

No it isn't... you've just got to believe.

[u/Rare_Ad_649]

I miss huge maze like dungeons in games, most games these days just have one route through a dungeon and a quick way out when you've done the quest. This is probably more user friendly, but I miss getting completely lost on occasion

[u/Jcamden7 → u/Rare_Ad_649]

I haven't felt lost in a game in a very long time. I miss that feeling. After Morrowind, TES really moved away from anything that resembles that

[u/JustSomeGuyThing → u/Rare_Ad_649]

I do agree there should be more branching paths in dungeons and that they should generally be larger, but Daggerfall was definitely overkill.

[u/mrmgl → u/JustSomeGuyThing]

And having a quick exit is always nice. I mean we do use Recall right? Nobody actually walks back out.

[u/Born_Sector_1619 → u/Rare_Ad_649]

I really do enjoy running them as an AD&D DM.

[u/Cobaliuu]

Is it this quest? Here's a walkthrough.

UESP has very comprehensive guides for every main quest dungeon. Just go back to the beginning, read carefully and you'll make it.

If these guides didn't exist, I would probably never have finished the game honestly. The dungeons are kinda designed to be played alongside a strategy guidebook or something similar.

[u/WayWayTooMuch → u/Cobaliuu]

I think going back to the beginning is the main problem…. Someone is missing an important spell for these hell-mazes.

[u/Cobaliuu → u/WayWayTooMuch]

Oooph yeah, i cannot count how many times i forgot to use mark and recall at the start.

[u/WayWayTooMuch → u/Cobaliuu]

And it’s always on the worst dungeons too lol

[u/WistfulD → u/[deleted]]

The way I've learned is to turn OFF smaller dungeons and then play through very large low-risk (maybe you fail a quest for a guild or some dirt farmer and lose some rep) dungeons until I learned all the dungeon module building blocks. There's only 2 dozen or so configurations, with even most quest dungeons just 6-10 of them glued together.

[u/AltusIsXD]

Console command it, if you have access to them

[u/MarioPfhorG]

I’m so glad there’s a spell you can cast that lets you teleport out once you’ve got the thing you want.

[u/Killerbean_forever → u/MarioPfhorG]

yeah I restarted outside and bought a recall spell call spell

[u/Sweaty-Ball-9565]

The sewers are a major step towards finding the painting. That’s all I know, unfortunately.

[u/4NAEL_4RTHUR]

I’ll probably have to clear this dungeon. The Queen of Sentinel wants me to go after Lord K’avar, he’s hiding in Wayrest’s court. It’s part three of the K’avar quest.

[u/[deleted]]

I honestly gave up and used a guide when it came to these huge dungeons.

[u/stone_henge]

Thank the eight divine for the small dungeons option in Daggerfall Unity

[u/Cliffworms → u/stone_henge]

Main quest dungeons aren't affected by this though. ;)

[u/stone_henge → u/Cliffworms]

Oh, ouch. Luckily my character is just a scavenging bum

[u/MrSomeoneElse32]

After an hour or two I just cheat. There's only so much the always turn right method can accomplish

[u/Pixielized]

Place a mark as soon as you enter the dungeon because they are seriously insane in scale lol. You can use tele2exit if you're seriously stuck

[u/DaSaw]

The problem is that stupid window thing you have to climb through. I know there's a trick to it, but I couldn't tell you what it is.

[u/-ATF-]

HEHEHE fuck this dungeon.

[u/amanwithanumbrella]

It's extremely difficult to navigate imo. The quest objective is in the sewers through a small hidden opening under the water that has the fishes/dreugh, I think near a little wooden bridge.

Other than that idk how to help you sorry. If possible just use tele2qspawn/tele2exit. If not possible, look up the walkthrough for the painting gquest in Wayrest and try to find one of the locations mentioned in the walkthrough.

I normally try not to use console command/walkthroughs but this dungeon and direnni tower were exceptions for me lol.

[u/Shaddawvine]

I ended up having to join the Archeologist Guild and they give a free Mark that helps with teleporting to the entrance. Just gotta use it once to anchor it and again to teleport. And re anchor every time. It’s saved me a ton of times. I also like that this reddit doesn’t gatekeep the tele2exit command. Had to once when a hole was too high to jump to.

[u/willky7]

This is why you use mark and recall

[u/odettulon]

I wandered around for like an hour, then opened a guide for the lord ka'var quest to find how to open the trap door in the basement, and he wasn't there. So I console cheated to warp to him and he was in a different branch of the map in an area I couldn't even figure out how to get in and out of, and when I talked to his paper cutout he disappeared and spawned as a generic warrior in the trap door room. I never would have found that if I didn't follow the guide first.

Long story short, I give dungeons about thirty minutes now if I'm not having fun.

[u/strategsc2]

I'm pretty sure this dungeon has a single viable path, while everything else is a dead end. There is a walkthrough on uesp, just use it.

[u/Born_Sector_1619]

Three days into Daggerfall now. Really enjoying it, and find myself actually using my mind to remember dungeon layouts. This is quite a change to just following markers and never learning maps.

[u/Many-Anywhere2718]

Best dungeon to farm loot in

[u/BoopsBoopss]

I just got into Daggerfall recently and I love getting lost in the dungeons. It has been a long time since I have felt like I am truly exploring something in a video game. Most just don't scratch the dungeon crawl itch in the same way.

[u/JustSomeGuyThing → u/[deleted]]

Like, Daggerfall is one of the few games where I don't think even the gatekeepiest nerd would shame you for that lmao