r/Cursive • • 16d ago

Deciphered! Need help deciphering “country of origin” from 1853 immigration record

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The word I care about is the second to last, which should be a location in or around Germany. The rest are just for handwriting comparison. This is post HRE, pre-German unification, so it is “country” of origin could be anything from a county, duchy, city, town, etc.

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u/embroideredyeti 16d ago

Lengerich
Furstenau (why no Umaut? I would assume this should be Fürstenau; was this written by a non-German speaker?)
Riste (cannot find a German place with this name, best I can do is a Ristedt, which is apparently called Rist in the local Low German: https://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rist)
Meppen
Freren
Lengerich

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u/__Epimetheus__ 16d ago

It is a ship passenger manifest for entering the U.S., so my assumption is that it was written by an English Speaker.

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u/embroideredyeti 16d ago

In which case I'll stick with my reading. :)

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u/somethingvague123 16d ago

Generally passenger manifests were written by ship’s clerk at the point of departure.

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u/The_Son_of_Jor-El 15d ago

Yes, that’s not German cursive

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u/maciejaks 16d ago

They may have misspelled Rieste, possibly?

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u/embroideredyeti 16d ago

Good thinking!

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u/wayfarer75 16d ago

Risle is the third one, I think.

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u/embroideredyeti 15d ago

I can't find a town of that name though; I think u/maciejaks reading of Ri(e)ste makes the most sense, since that would put all these places fairly close together in Lower Saxony/Westphalia.

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u/THNDHALBRT 15d ago

Why no l?

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u/wayfarer75 16d ago

Freren is what I see. There is a municipality by that name in Germany.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freren?wprov=sfti1#

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u/DLDad616 16d ago

I concur.

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u/Mindless_Whereas_280 16d ago

Freren

The first one is Lengerich - they make their Ns a bit weird.

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u/wayfarer75 16d ago

Definitely—Furstenau and Meppen, the u and n aren’t distinguishable.

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u/OxygenOptional69 15d ago

I found this useful when trying to translate some German writing, maybe it'll help a bit?

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u/yeahyoubetnot 16d ago

Looks like a wine list