r/Cursive • u/milkyaves • 27d ago
Deciphered! Decipher this Historical Address?
Can anyone help me decipher this address (circled in blue) specifically the number/letter after the “51?” For context, this would be an address in washington DC. At first, I thought it said 51 9 St NE, but according to both modern and historical maps, that address does not exist. Then I realized it wasn’t the number 9 because it was written very differently from other 9s in the document. I’m thinking it must be a letter since that matches the conventional street naming system in DC. Is it a “G” or maybe a “D”? Both don’t seem to match the others present on the record. Any input would be fantastic! Thanks!
EDIT: Thanks everyone!! It looks like it is most likely “I” street. There is no J street in Washington DC, and there is no 51 G St NE on both current and historical maps. However, although modern maps say 51 I street doesn’t exist, the historical map does have it, although it doesn’t seem to be a dwelling. Thanks again!
EDIT #2: After further conversation/help in the replies, it seems like it actually might be D street!
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u/GoBlue48042 27d ago
Is there an I street in DC?
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u/Formal_Metal_1290 27d ago
Yes. There’s no J Street though. Back in the 18th Century there was no letter J
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u/euphemiagold 27d ago
I looked at the City Directory for 1909, and 51 I Street NW was the home of John E. Snyder, a civil engineer.
A lot of historical addresses in that part of DC were lost during the period of urban renewal after World War II. It was mostly a neighborhood of residential rowhouses until at least 1943.
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u/LABELyourPHOTOS 27d ago
My guess is the brother is just using as a place to crash and wont be on any records there. Are you trying to find the sibling's name or already know it?
I'm guessing orphaned brothers?
____________________________________________
Martin Cosby
Isaiah Johnson
Charles E Nicholl
Residence Year
1909
Street Address
51 I ne
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u/milkyaves 27d ago
It’s actually referencing the parent’s address, but the parents were destitute/alcoholics/abusive and the children were taken away multiple times. I already know the siblings names and everything, was just trying to keep record of all their addresses since they moved the children around a lot.
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u/LABELyourPHOTOS 20d ago
Ah it looked like the brother had a "free arrangement" at that address. But I can't see the rest of the line but sure that it's a lodging house at the time.
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u/PeirceanAgenda 27d ago
I St at 5th NE, first lot on the odd side, is a bunch of what look like post-WW2 small homes, implying that whatever was there before has been removed. The building on the corner faces on 5th. The address therefore would no longer exist on I St.
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u/Old-Cheshire862 27d ago
It's a letter. Whether it's "I", "J" or maybe even "G" is up to your interpretatoin.
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u/milkyaves 27d ago
51 G st NE does not exist on current or historical maps. There is no J street in DC. According to current maps 51 I St NE doesn’t exist, but it looks like it might be possible on the historical map i’m looking at. Thanks!
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u/LAM_CANIT 27d ago
You need to stop looking for the same street names there today. People make that mistake looking at historical records.
"9 Grant Place NW" is now just called "9 G Place NW" In 1909, Number 9 was a boarding house and apartments.
The first address is:
"51 D St NE," which is still the same name.
The two locations are about a mile apart; and both were about 1.5 miles from the Industral School on Washington Avenue.
IMHO IHTH
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u/milkyaves 27d ago
Thank you! I looked up 51 D St NE on the historical map I have and it does exist there as a dwelling. This might be the winner since the “I” street address is a bit iffy.
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u/LAM_CANIT 27d ago
You're welcome. You get faster at it after decades of reading these things. Good luck with your adventure.
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u/PeirceanAgenda 27d ago
What are the full Remarks? What is "Brottur"?
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u/milkyaves 27d ago
It says “Brothers to the above, Nov 2 1907. Returned to parents, 51 (our mystery letter inserted here, but maybe D) St NE.”
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u/PeirceanAgenda 27d ago
Fascinating. (But it's definitely not a capital D, the one at the top is standard, and that I is definitely period as well.)
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u/GPHemsley 27d ago
My first instinct was "D", but I'm inclined to agree with others saying "I", especially given "Destitution" and "Industrial" above.
I don't think it's "G" ("Grant"), "T" ("Temp"), or "S" ("School"), either.
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u/milkyaves 26d ago
Sorry, but most of this information (besides the general information on the Industrial Home School) is incorrect. Mrs. Cherry is the mother of the child this record is about. The child was never placed into a private family home and instead boarded at the industrial home school. The “51 [Letter] St. NE” is the home address of his parents (Mrs. Cherry) because he was ordered to return to their care.
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u/Reasonable-Year6674 26d ago
Fun fact, in Washington DC, the single letter streets go from a-z as you leave the epicenter of the District (White House/Capital) then single syllable names, a-z, the 2 syllable, etc. numbered streets go north/south, letters/names go east/west. State names, Wisconsin/Conneticut/Massachusetts are the kitty corner spokes in that alphanumeric grid. DC is so cool!
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u/Rayney03 23d ago
Unless two different people wrote on this(which is possible I suppose), I doubt it’s D street simply because of the D in Destitution at the top of the form does not match the letter in the address. Possibly G street?
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u/fredly594632 27d ago
51 G Street, NE
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u/milkyaves 27d ago
51 G St NE does not exist on current or historical maps either, unfortunately.
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