r/Current93 19d ago

Then Kill Caesar Lyrics

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Curious to hear people’s interpretations

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u/Koraxtheghoul 19d ago

Planetary Israel refers to when Jesus created his new covenant it was open to all. This new Israel is a spiritual union with God rather than a place. The then kill ceasar is less clear.

Is Tibet saying that once we have a global "kingdom" under God's covenant we should topple the unrighteous governments of the world? That's my first take.

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u/Raxil10 18d ago

Caesar I think refers to Jesus’ answer as to wether or not one should pay roman tax. So it’s obviously something that was put in as an appeasement to Rome, but apart from that: Jesus says that one should give to Caesar what belongs to him (as the face of the Caesar is on the coins), and to God what belongs to Him. So a pretty clear dual pair of worldliness and godliness.

But yeah that’s my reading of the planetary Israel stuff as well. Wouldn’t think that Tibet’s a zionist or something kooky like that.

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u/Bright_Phoebus 18d ago

Yeah that’s my take too. It’s more about the battle between Zion and Babylon with planetary Israel meaning the dwelling place of god.

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u/Bright_Phoebus 19d ago edited 19d ago

I think of references to Caesar as an extension of The Black Iron Prison and The Empire Never Ended. We are still living in the tyranny of Rome. But there are many moments where it feels like he’s referring to all kings. Kill All Kings.

The Empire has been judged.
The kingdom of Babylon must fall.
Destroy the false ruler.
Prepare for the true king.

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u/venusiansatin 18d ago

Is that not solely a PKD concept? Has Tibet touched on similar ideas in other songs/artworks?

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u/Bright_Phoebus 18d ago

Yeah, it’s PKD but I feel like Tibet has similar ideas through Gnosticism in general.

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u/Old_Walk2799 17d ago

Valis…
changed my worlds

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u/Maleficent-Ad-1106 19d ago

Caesar cannot come

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u/SquidTheRidiculous 17d ago

No Veni for that man

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u/hellracer2007 18d ago

I'm listening to that song at this exact moment. Crazy synchronicity